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Despicable Anti Dementors

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Mascotte · 15/05/2020 20:41

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Orangeblossom78 · 17/05/2020 15:58

They are not keen on solutions or looking at ways forward it all sort of degenerates...any kind of discussion leads to them feeling you are against them or something. It's really weird. Even when the measures you are trying to discuss are aimed at helping control the virus!- or manage things for the future so we don't have to lockdown again..

but maybe that is the point.

BirdieFriendReturns · 17/05/2020 16:01

There’s a post over on the Coronavirus forum with a petition saying we shouldn’t be easing the lockdown yet.

“It’s a recipe for disaster” apparently.

Mrsorganmorgan · 17/05/2020 16:03

My daughter is a nurse and she just told me (she has just come off shift) that they have only one patient left with corona virus and this patient is expected to go home soon.

I am really old, I have a DNR and would never wish to be ventillated. All I want is a painless, good death.

This thread has kept me sane (I have an idiot of a husband).

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 17/05/2020 16:04

You'd expect people who actually ARE sad about it to go "oh, good!", but in my experience the reaction you get is "well that's not true/doesn't count/I'm moving the goalposts to something else now", which would indicate a definite lack of sadness in my opinion

YES! This is a great test to see if they are genuine or not.
Same with the london thread when someone said that new cases were as low in London as 24 a day. Now, you'd assume that someone sad about this whole scenario would be greatly relieved that at last there was some good news! But nope. It was all doom and gloom and no that cant be right.

Really puts pay to the idea that they want things to get better. They dont, Its very very obvious.

heroku · 17/05/2020 16:04

It's really interesting to understand the psychology behind why some people want the lockdown to continue indefinitely. For some people their lives have objectively actually improved. I've had a couple of friends admit that they're really enjoying being at home, quieter streets/roads and a break from the rat race. For others I think there's a security blanket aspect whereby they feel more in control if the most extreme measures are adopted. There's also the lack of fomo thing. I've had one friend tell me that for the first time she can sit in alone with the telly on a Friday night and not feel bad that she's not got any exciting plans.

Those last two only work though when everyone is locked down (not just individual dementors) which I think is why they get so angry at anyone breaking the rules.

rosettesforjill · 17/05/2020 16:12

I'm an introvert and personally I have found lots of aspects of lockdown quite nice. It's been good not to have had to go back to the office yet post maternity leave and lovely to have DH home - when he's commuting into London, I normally only see him for about an hour a day. However - I can recognise that we are lucky to have job security (for now), a happy and safe household, space and a garden.

Also, I would quite like to go on holiday at some point before 2025.

Sandybval · 17/05/2020 16:14

My only real worry with lockdown being lifted is that everyone will then be going on about Brexit, if nothing else this pandemic has given a bit of respite from that.

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 17/05/2020 16:15

Yea someone on another thread said it was "BS" that dementors wanted more to die.
Really? is it? because from what ive seen, they show no happiness whatsoever when people recover from covid or have mild symptoms and yet they show great glee and excitement at the thought of the bodies piling up. If you have covid mildly you NEVER get "phew- so glad youre ok now" from them- nope, instead you get "You cant POSSIBLY have had it- if you had it, you'd be dead or on a ventilator- youre lying" thats even when youve had a positive test!!

People dont want to accept because its shocking. Its shocking that anyone might actually be enjoying this but I really think they are. Not in a normal way, but in a "thrive on drama" way.

maria860 · 17/05/2020 16:15

Aww Thankyou that is so kind I'm in the midlands so a bit far from you.
We're going to have a takeaway tonight due to my shopping gone wrong and no food left but I'm going to drive to moms tomorrow and she's going to go into aldi for me while I wait with my son so I will be ok.

psychomath · 17/05/2020 16:17

Have to say I did think a second peak (albeit hopefully a smaller one) would be inevitable after restrictions were loosened as more people meeting up etc is obviously going to lead to an increase in transmission. I didn't think that was a reason to stay in lockdown forever, just a sad but unavoidable consequence of starting to go back to normal life. So it's very encouraging to see that it doesn't seem to be the case in Europe just yet.

One of my best friends, who suffers quite bad anxiety anyway and lost an elderly family member early on in the lockdown, has been one of the main dementor-ish types in my real life, having a go about people making unnecessary trips for exercise even though they were within the rules etc. We nearly had quite a bad falling out about it a few weeks ago. Today she's started expressing concern about the effect on children's development and making fun of the people on social media who are saying this will go on for years. This has given me more hope than anything else so far that sanity is prevailing Smile

IrmaFayLear · 17/05/2020 16:18

The Telegraph article someone linked to (was it this thread or another Confused was interesting, saying that most people are not yet financially impacted by coronavirus as they can work from home, or feel that 80% of pay is quite all right, and the wider implications have no bearing on them at the moment. The weather's nice, they're currently enjoying more family time, more leisure time, more telly time whatever and so lockdown is not at all bad.

I agree it's so depressing when dementors - and the Media - get so upset at any good news. I'm convinced if a vaccine was found by the UK tomorrow they would interpret it as being the worst news ever.

GoldenOmber · 17/05/2020 16:20

My daughter is a nurse and she just told me (she has just come off shift) that they have only one patient left with corona virus and this patient is expected to go home soon.

Ah that's brilliant! So good to hear some good news.

Orangeblossom78 · 17/05/2020 16:22

there is a balance- a situation like Holland or Sweden where there are some differences but things may not swing out of control..the 'dance' as mentioned..

But I think they actually want the drama of another peak and another lockdown so maybe that is why they don't want to think about such 'grey areas'

Orangeblossom78 · 17/05/2020 16:24

There's no compromise and as with schools no thinking of positive or innovative ways things could work.

BarkandCheese · 17/05/2020 16:24

It’s easy to weave a concerned about lockdown ending too soon narrative to cover up not wanting to go back to the stress of normal life. I’m not trying to teacher bash, but I suspect a significant number of those opposed to going back has at its heart more to do with finding the job horribly stressful and wanting to put off the inevitable for as long as possible than real, heartfelt concern about safety.

Nihiloxica · 17/05/2020 16:27

I feel both dementors and anti dementors can all agree that dumping bodies isn’t acceptable even during non pandemic times.

Grin

We can come together on the issue that murdering someone and chopping up their body is not ideal behaviour.

Sandy I miss Brexit. God, I was so bored of it, but now I miss hearing about backstops and the border.

The thing is, Brexit hadn't gone away. It's being negotiated right now.

I think that's why the Tories are letting us wind ourselves up into a paroxysm of snitching anxiety over CoVid-19 - they still have their eyes on their prize.

The Irish government have closed the border they maintained was uncloseable.

Tootletum · 17/05/2020 16:28

Another interesting thing is that it seems to be very important to claim that Sweden has taken completely the wrong approach, or if that seems to not match the fact that Sweden is fast achieving sufficient immunity to protect older people (might be wrong about that but thought I'd read their antibody tests have best results), then it changes to "yeah but Sweden has barely any people so it's not comparable". It's terrifying how much people love to control others.

Bollss · 17/05/2020 16:29

I think half the issue is they don't understand it. They don't understand the science behind easing lockdown (and whilst I cannot claim to know everything about it I have grasped the general idea) so to them it's like all or nothing. Lockdown = good and out of lockdown = bad. When like you say actually a balance is what's best right now.

Mascotte · 17/05/2020 16:40

Hello, @Mrsorganmorgan, welcome

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ilovecardigans · 17/05/2020 16:45

Ahh that's good, maria. I did think afterwards that you might be in the Midlands (mommy was a dead giveaway!). I used to do a lot of work in Birmingham about 20 or so years ago and I absolutely loved the people and the accent. Very fond memories. Enjoy your takeaway sweetheart. x

Sheffield people are awesome too. Friendly, warm and funny.

merryhouse · 17/05/2020 16:48

But Nihil, surely a large part of the reason it was considered uncloseable was all the people continually crossing it in the course of work?

If hardly anyone's going to work, most of the problem's disappeared...

justasking111 · 17/05/2020 16:48

Yhe figures are in 8 in Scotland and 12 in Wales yesterday. I hope that makes Sturgeon and Drakeford think long and hard, it has been similar to that all week.

Mrsorganmorgan · 17/05/2020 16:49

Mascotte Thank you. It is Good News. I think they also had enough PPE

ilovecardigans · 17/05/2020 16:50

The Chris Whitty Gresham College lecture should be compulsory viewing for everyone. I wish I'd seen it a lot sooner as it would have helped my anxiety no end.

TheAdventuresoftheWishingChair · 17/05/2020 16:52

I'm another leftie, former Guardian reader etc although I cancelled my subscription last year thanks to other issues. I am appalled by many on the left at the minute. They really do just want to bash the Tories for the sake of it. The PPE situation is an interesting one - it was all over my FB that the Tories had failed as they looked at the fact PPE would be needed in the case of a back of a pandemic back in 2016. They are murderers, apparently, for not having stockpiled. But it has a use before date. If we'd bought masses then, it would have been unusable now. And in the last few months, while we didn't get it quickly, there was a worldwide shortage and most was made in China - unsurprisingly they weren't selling much of it! They needed it. These things aren't straightforward.

And yes to some people really being reluctant to hear good news - I had a classic case of that with a friend who claimed few people were following lockdown at the beginning of it and we were all doomed. When I pointed out that officials were saying otherwise and that public transport use had dropped off massively to prove my point she swerved to 'of course I meant people aren't following lockdown in America.' I still think back to that - my expectation was she would go, 'oh great.' I can't understand that other than she just wants to hold onto one particular opinion. She's super bright and sensible normally.

I am pissed off today. There are a few ways this situation is affecting me which are really tough to handle each day. I have been doing much better but at some point every day I hit a moment of being utterly fed up. If I knew when things were going to change I could cope far better. I would love to go and sit with a friend and get out my own head for a bit but I can't. It's like Groundhog Day isn't it?

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