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Maria I did that too with Tesco with my dad's delivery! It seems oddly easy to do with them not sure why. If it helps any there are these food boxes from Morrisons which come the next day..a veggie one and a meat one but it might not be the sort of thing you want.

i sympathise about your son's feelings too, my younger DS has had some odd worries about the virus being in the picnic and not wanting to sit on benches...he seems to have picked it up from people not being supposed to do these things...anyway we just gently talked about how it was OK (to have a picnic or be outside) exploring the worries and dispelling them and then going out / picnicking/ sitting and saying after how it was OK -there is some stuff about how avoidance increases anxiety and really that is what all these 'rules' have brought into society and also coupled with social judgement and shame...its sad to see it affecting our children but anyway hope that helps a little.

It still seems a bit frowned on to take children shopping which is unfair to single parents, I would like to send my young teen to the shop to buy milk etc sometimes and think he could cope (as well as any of us) with the sisal distancing) but don't want him to get hassle about it.

www.morrisons.com/food-boxes/

Rivia I hear you, I feel the same. I have a primary DS and not on their What's app group so no idea what they say / do. We've filled in the form to say yes to starting back in June (Y6)

And yes, I also think if they get it mildly, which is the most likely outcome for them, they could get antibodies and be more protected in future. If they are at school we could just keep an eye out for symptoms and now, DC can get tested too so there is that as well. I can;t want for mine to go back, all the screen time (and I mean school stuff as well) is making them like little pale vampires, even when we do take them out.

As the forecast is warm DH is off to murder his elderly parents tomorrow by sitting in the garden with them. Has to be when it's warm as MIL is confined to a wheelchair and gets chilly quickly. I might try and nip out to a garden centre this week and murder a few people there. The only thing that might stop me is if there is a queue to get in as I'll be on my lunchbreak. I might also go and murder my 93yo dad next weekend if its sitting in the garden weather even though it means driving a murderously long way. I might even help him along with a bottle of whisky as the volunteer doing their shopping can't tell the difference between Southern Comfort and whisky.

Morning everyone! The news about Italy is giving me a bit of hope, not the least because I'd booked a holiday there in April and re-booked the flights for October (as that was the latest I could exchange for at the time). I am now faintly positive that it might actually happen, and I could be in Rome before the year is out. It will also be really interesting to see how the next few months work for them, and what we can learn from that.

@geraltofrivia
I 100% agree with everything you said.

My daughter attends a Nursery attached to the Primary she will be starting in September. I'm a key worker (secondary school teacher) and they refused her a key worker place in March. They emailed yesterday asking who wants to send their child back in June. It was worded: "please let me know if you are a key worker or are going back to work and need childcare. At the moment we feel the safest place for your children is at home".

I mean - the subtext of that!! And what makes me the saddest is her little mates who will be deprived going back because the parents feel too guilty to reply yes they want a place. She'll end up the only one there. So sad.

"They're not coping. I'm not coping. I need them in school and they need to be in school and see people other than us. Also, school need to ease back in. They need to do this in stages...

Yes, GeraltOfRivia! Agree absolutely with this, and everything else you said 👏

Just seen this article from a Great Ormond Street paediatrician this morning

Reopen the schools or a generation will bear the mental health scars
www.theguardian.com/global/commentisfree/2020/may/17/reopen-the-schools-or-a-generation-will-bear-the-mental-health-scars

I was so cross on my village facebook page the other day. To paraphrase a conversation between A, B and C

A: has anyone in the village died from the virus?
(One or two people saying those they know who may have died from it)
B: maybe we should ask who has had it and recovered, let's keep it positive!
C: my friend who is a bus driver DIED AND my niece works in a care home, they're dropping like flies and coming out in bags (his actual words) AND B you should be ashamed - talking about people recovering just makes people want to break lockdown.

He then started replying to everyone's posts about how we must only talk about those who have died, not recovered as we need to "have some respect" for the dead

On the plus side, Cs comments have now been deleted.

Morning All!

I told DH that DS won't be at school on 1st June. He quite rightly said that DS will be fine. He's happy and we have MIL who is a retired Reception class teacher living with us. But I can't help wanting some normality.

I really feel for those of you with DCs who are struggling. Some people seem to think that small children don't have feelings.

you should be ashamed - talking about people recovering just makes people want to break lockdown

Hmm.

"And then I see comments like " things won't be normal until December 2021"

I read that and then had to check what year it is. So not only have the days, weeks and months merged as one, the years have too.

At the moment we feel the safest place for your children is at home

I worked for a short while in a school and overheard staff conversations I shouldn't have done (because the staff were lax about confidentiality, incidentally, and talked openly without thinking) A nice safe village primary in a very leafy area. There were still children there they were having to monitor and liaise with SS about because they were turning up with bruises (violent father) or they suspected a mother was back taking drugs, etc, etc. The idea that schools feel children are generally safer at home is a bit mind-blowing. Surely they should be more aware than anyone of the bigger picture and realise that a significant number of their pupils badly need to be back in school.

Teachers and the unions are going to seriously damage their reputations if they keep this up. I generally think teachers do a wonderful and pretty difficult job. Good ones are worth their weight in gold. But wtf are they thinking at the moment?

I agree with those upthread who have said that the schools debate has tipped them over the edge. Me too. It’s all just so... nasty and unnecessary.
I’ve commented on a few threads saying ‘why can’t everyone just quietly make their decision and allow others to make theirs?’
I’m not a key worker. I have no real need of schools for childcare, I can work (albeit less efficiently) with them around. My wage isn’t needed for us to stay afloat. I was planning to send mine back as I think we need to take steps to get back to normality, but I know I will be accused of not caring about the safety of my children, not being ‘arsed’ to look after my own children (an accusation levelled at me on another thread... by a teacher no less), of putting keyworkers children at additional risk... it’s all fucking bullshit!

Heroku thank you for posting the Guardian article that was a good balanced read.

I just said on the survery yes- they are keen to return and for their education and wellbeing in the box

I'm starting to feel like I'm completely alone with no end in sight

Psychomath, I'm so sorry. I just wanted to say I completely get it. I can't believe how much better I feel for having seen my therapist and then my friend. It's taken such a huge weight off my shoulders and even today I'm just much happier in my self and more able to concentrate and enjoy what I'm getting on with in the day. We aren't designed to live like this. Over the coming weeks I am going for small interactions with people as much as I can, even if that's just with shopkeepers or people out walking dogs. I walked somewhere with my friend and there were elderly people sitting in their front gardens and many looked positively desperate for a stranger to stop and have a chat. It's not the same as time with someone you know and love but it does help.

We have govs tomorrow where I strongly suspect dds year group will be the one thrown under the bus never to return. I’m dreading it - I can’t sit by and watch that happen unquestioning and rubber stamp and tell the head they’re amazing (that’s not what we’re meant to be there for) but the others will and the head will shred me in terms of bringing personal stuff in. All I can think of to do is ask my concerns and objections are minuted and then resign as I won’t support the decision.

They win regardless.

DominaShantotto I’m just about to trawl through all the info our head has sent through ahead of our governors meeting tomorrow. It came through yesterday but I’ve been putting off reading it!

Morning Dementors
Massive dementing yesterday on the school mums WhatsApp. I was in the garden centre ( socking in itself ) and when I came out there were 20 messages on this chat. Each mum trying to out do each other with the vehemence they are rejecting sending their kids back to school. Bonus best mum ever points, the longer you are willing to lock your child up for!
I did not even comment, these people are so outraged, there's no point in actually sharing proper evidence, you know what the actual science says.
Better off to listen to Jen's neighbour's sister who " works in a school"

@TheAventuresoftheWishingChair

It feels like either they literally are just terrified, which just seems so irrational, or they don't want the time off to end. I'm not sure which it is.

I am a teacher by the way. This isn't good for any of us.
I saw one of our TAs harping on on Facebook about how we shouldn't be reopening and I'm sorry but with her, it is just so transparent. She just doesn't want to go back to work.

I am so sorry for those of you who have Stasi type neighbours. We're over 70 and my family live locally, so they have been calling in all along on their daily exercise: we sit inside and talk through an open door. Our neighbours all know this has been happening, but nobody has said anything nasty; on the contrary they appear to be supportive. I have only had one wobble, when my GD started crying and said she wanted to sit on grandad's knee and have a cuddle.

I am so fed up of the scare mongering media, and the reluctance of people to move forward. My DH received an email yesterday setting out the life of a person born in 1900 and all they lived through over the century: WW1, Spanish flu, the Great Depression, WW2, Korean War, Vietnam War, epidemics of polio (which I personally remember), smallpox, TB; the Cold War. The list went on and on, literally millions of deaths.

I saw one of our TAs harping on on Facebook about how we shouldn't be reopening

Is this even allowed? Surely they should be keeping their personal view off social media?

You’re right it isn’t good for anyone. I really feel for a lot of teachers. Most are just trying to do their best and they most certainly have the right to do it as safely as possible. The whole situation is just awful.

Morning all.
We went for a lovely walk in the moors yesterday (killed a village, two hamlets and three fields of sheep).
We saw one other family at the start of the walk and nobody else. Nobody had bothered to shut the carparks (little informal ones) and there were just a few cars in each. Drove through a honeypot village where everything was shut but there were no crowds of disconsolate day trippers jostling each other in front of the almshouses and pooing in front gardens.

I wonder if at any of those times in the past people reacted to the same extent of shaming and blaming others etc.