Despicable Anti Dementors

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A local Councillor has claimed that the BBC are doing their best to kill everyone.

By doing what?

A report from an empty beach reminding everyone there are no lifeguards so to be extremely careful entering the water.

The mind doth boggle

DH just came into the room and said... 'so, garden centre today then, yes?'

This is the man who was my own personal dementor. I think my cynicism has brushed off on him at last.

Placemarking

Just checked if our local tip is open. It is, with different days allocated depending on your car reg. We have two cars, one odd, one even.....

we need to be sensible and cautious about moving forward, but we need to keep moving forward

Yes, exactly. I’m really surprised by people who don’t seem to want that at all or who want to live in lockdown until the virus has all totally gone away.

@DrearyWallAntler Covid is a strange disease, if you try to do anything to make your life a bit easier and nicer you want everyone to die. The BBC are clearly colluding by...I dunno...putting programmes on?

I'm struggling to keep,up! Thank god for the sanity on here. Some of the people I'm working with (NHS) have gone full on dementor in the last couple of days - if I was a bitch I'd say it's because they have enjoyed the last few weeks of having no patients and being considered a hero, free food etc and don't want to get back to normal and no clapping.

In the meantime I've been to the seaside three times and had a fish and chip supper on the beach with the ancient father who of course shouldn't be allowed out at all.

And more excitingly have made plans to visit my partner week after next (which is the first time I can get a days leave because things are fucking busy in NHS management yes, arsehole nurses in the call yesterday I'm working longer hours than you).

Think that, along with murderous thoughts towards arsehole nurses on the call yesterday is worth a few deaths?

@Leighhalfpennysthigh Gasps! You just don't care about killing off people or our NHS Angels!

Old people

I agree with everything @Spudlet says. Then again my views have changed a lot over the last month and will probably change a lot over the next few weeks too.

One thing I think we'll realise was a mistake was prioritising physical health so much more than mental health. There are 2 elderly ladies in my road who haven't seen the outside of their houses since March because they're "staying at home" like the government said. But where's the risk in them walking round the park? Where's the risk in them going to each other's houses even? The rules seem so arbitrary and yet have such a massive impact on people's wellbeing.

There will be a lot of the sink costs mentality at play. We've given up so much, caused ourselves so much misery, damaged our economy to ww2 levels, it has to be worth it. Anyone trying to argue that lockdown is a mistake is going to come up against this.

I think we needed a level of lockdown at the start. We didn't have a lot of data (and it looks now that what we had wasn't that reliable) and we needed time to create extra capacity in the NHS. But now I think we need to loosen off. The virus isn't going to disappear, we can't hide inside until a vaccine is available, if it ever is available. More people are going to catch it but we need them to do so now, while the nightingales are still there, and before the flu season & all the other winter bugs hit. With all the increased capacity we can treat people earlier, rather than leaving it til the blue lips stage before allowing hospital admissions. That way more will survive.

We also need to accept that this is going to be what kills a lot of people. But that those people would be killed by something else very soon, possibly something worse. I will take a short respiratory illness over years of dementia any day, thanks.

Oh ffs, sunk costs.

@Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy I spoke to DM in Cardiff this morning. She said the 2 doctors in her street have been going for long bike rides and everyone is very fed up. Are you finding people are trying to stretch the rules more?

Also in the grey area, although I'd feel a lot more confident about a slow return to normality if I trusted the government's competency in any shape or form! So, I'm reading as much as I can bear and trying to risk assess sensibly based on what I read, as I would in any other area of life. And finding this thread a really useful counterbalance where we can have sensible discussions!

Yes, not to be insensitive but wasn't pneumonia called "the old man's friend"? My grandmother died at the age of 90 from a a short respiratory illness which exacerbated to hospital. She got to hospital, chatted to everyone on the phone, ate a hearty breakfast the following morning (!) and slipped away. A much better way to go than languishing in a care home for years, not understanding where you are or who anyone else is.

My DD1 just sent me a photo of herself and DD2 wearings full balaklavas, with a caption saying "this is what we will wear to school". I hope she is joking!!

Yes, not to be insensitive but wasn't pneumonia called "the old man's friend

Yes it was. All the posts from dementors about covid and "drowning in your own fluids" -oh, you mean like pneumonia?- the condition thats been around for years and one that you never once mentioned or sympathised with prior to covid?!! That one!

A report from an empty beach reminding everyone there are no lifeguards so to be extremely careful entering the water

Have they not sussed it is still May and other than the crazy surfers hardly anyone will be doing more than having a paddle.

I am in true killing mode, I am stood waiting outside B and M to buy some ant traps, much easier than the current method of squishing each one individually.

I will take a short respiratory illness over years of dementia any day, thanks.

Jesus, absolutely. My grandfather was in a home with advanced dementia. He lasted 6 years, just having more of his faculties degrade.

In the end he died of an infection of some sort. It only killed him because he couldn't swallow the antibiotics (yeah, your swallow goes, so you start starving to death very slowly) and the family (my Granny, really) agreed that no extreme measures should be taken, such as IV antibiotics.

It was fucking grim. They had to still try to give him the drugs orally because not treating him at all wouldn't have been ethical. A couple of days in he started swallowing again. I was like "no, please, please let him die. No more of this for him."

I know not everyone in care homes is at that stage, but the home he was in was full of them. Death for very old, very sick people with a horrible disease that takes their life away slowly, is a blessed relief.

Yes, that phrase, "the old man's friend" keeps running through my mind. And it's not like pneumonia is a pleasant disease. It's as though at a societal level we can no longer cope with the idea of death.

I will take a short respiratory illness over years of dementia any day, thanks

God yes. Anyone who says otherwise clearly hasn't seen what dementia does to a person.

I’m just glad there’s a place where we can discuss the impact on children’s mental health with out someone screeching “WOULD YOU RATHER THEY WERE DEAD?!?!?” or something.

Mine really need to go back to school. It’s not about me; I’m a SAHM anyway and I’m quite happy to homeschool. But autistic DS’s hard-won social skills and willingness to adapt try new things are seriously regressing, and DD’s literacy delays are beyond my powers to fix. They’re both becoming more and more resistant to doing schoolwork, and I’m feeling more and more frustrated and desperate and like I’m failing them. DS only wants to do and talk about Lego, non-stop, and DD throws about 10 tantrums a day.

After a morning of shouting and tears yesterday we threw the towel in and cycled up to the park. The children had ice creams from the ice cream van, climbed trees, saw a friend from school and had some socially-distanced running races, and we all felt so much better. It’s the “riskiest” thing we’ve done yet.

It's as though at a societal level we can no longer cope with the idea of death.

That is the crux of it really, we simply don't know how to deal with death.

I’ve just been to the garden centre, it was GLORIOUS! Lots of smiles, cheerful staff and chats with other customers, felt GREAT!

Our garden centres open on Monday and I am so excited to go.

DH and I have a shopping list of plants

Can't wait to get to a garden centre. Will have to go on my own though so dh can look after the kids, not as fun.