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Anti Dementors, Assemble!

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Mascotte · 11/05/2020 17:46

I think I finished the last thread by accident...

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Iwalkinmyclothing · 12/05/2020 17:09

The tricky bit is - I’m a governor there. I’m tempted to resign in protest against the tone of all the parental communication but again, right now knowing what is going on is helpful.

Oh god please don't resign, you're going to be needed to balance out some of the doom and gloom

DrearyWallAntler · 12/05/2020 17:11

@orangeblossom78

I know that, you know that, Das locals do not....

I fully expect a full front page spread with the word 'murderer' accross it.

GoldenOmber · 12/05/2020 17:17

Am a bit puzzled as to how schools in umpteen other countries are managing to open with various combinations of reduced class sizes, half days, masks, keeping children/teacher in a single bubble, etc... but this is TOTALLY TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE for schools in England?

Not “well we could do it but you’ll have to hire us some more TAs and get us some more space if you want the children in full time”, or “we want more guidance on how we would do xyz like they are in Norway/Taiwan/Australia”, or “we insist the contact tracing system is up and running first”, just “NO”?

GoldenOmber · 12/05/2020 17:20

Also I think the demands for teachers to get PPE would be more constructive if people were clearer on what PPE they wanted and what the basis was for that.

PPE is specific to risk and environment, it is not just a magic virus-repelling forcefield, it needs training for wearing appropriately and the more heavy duty gear is not easy to operate in, you do not actually want to be teaching in a surgical gown and a respirator mask.

BarkandCheese · 12/05/2020 17:31

To be fair to Nick Hancock (which I admit I’m doing through gritted teeth) what could he have replied to that question? He wasn’t be asked when we could hug our loved ones again but when we could hug someone we’d just met. If he’d said anything other than not until there’s a vaccine or cure he’d have been jumped on by the press and public. Like a lot of things to do with this it depends on you, the other person, the situation, there’s no simple one answer. Although I’ve never wanted to hug someone I’ve just met so I’m quite happy to never do it.

heroku · 12/05/2020 17:32

Maybe we should just order one full hazmat suit per member of the population and then just crack on back to the schools, pubs and clubs. Hairdresser and dentist might be a bit tricky. And you might need a very long straw for your pint. But at least we could have as many stranger hugs as we like.

(I'm kidding)

iamapixie · 12/05/2020 17:32

My DP has just been out to the shops with a scarf as a face covering.
Never worn a scarf in his life - thinks it makes him look like he's trying to pretend he went to public school, especially with the rather luxuriant locks he's currently sporting.
I think he feels his working class manhood is in jeopardy!

rosettesforjill · 12/05/2020 17:35

Well our nursery has been in touch to say they will be back open to all children on 1st June... which I'm happy about but goes to show that you can do it when you genuinely have your and others' livelihoods on the line...

TheGreatWave · 12/05/2020 17:35

Schofe asked how long until we can "give someone we just met a hug

Maybe our friend Schofe goes round hugging a lot more people than the majority of society do.

Orangeblossom78 · 12/05/2020 17:40

Interesting to read the European perspective on looking at the UK right now..

www.politico.eu/article/boris-johnson-risks-dragging-brits-out-of-coronavirus-lockdown-against-their-will/

"...sky-high support for lockdown measures"

"...a larger and more entrenched phenomenon in the public psyche. Compared with other countries, the British public is being taken out of lockdown against its will."

73 percent of the British people want the government to limit the spread of the disease and prevent deaths, even if that means a recession or depression and major job losses. Other countries are much less sure — only 44 percent say this in Sweden, 49 percent in Germany.

The U.K. is also uniquely united on this, with people across all age groups prioritizing saving lives, bucking the trend in other nations where younger people are keener to put the economy first.

"There are different views as to why this is. The obvious answer is the U.K. death toll, but other countries with high numbers, such as the United States, do not share the same sentiment to such a degree. There is no clear pattern related to how relaxed or severe different lockdowns have been either.

Focus groups have shown that Johnson’s experience of the virus altered views of the risk in the U.K., with its image morphing from a mild, flu-like illness into an indiscriminate killer that could knock anyone down much more easily than had been assumed.

Whatever the explanation, this difference matters because the British public wants the government to put their lives above the economy. Their benchmark for success for the government in this crisis is not economic growth, nor merely stopping NHS capacity from being overwhelmed, but deaths coming down and staying down.

In Germany and Sweden, the public are aligned with their governments. As lockdowns are lifted — or in the case of Sweden, measures stay relaxed"

Orangeblossom78 · 12/05/2020 17:43

also www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/05/britons-lockdown-obedient-exceptional-nhs-rules

on our rule following nature

TheGreatWave · 12/05/2020 17:44

Interesting article, so perhaps we are not a laughing stock after all.

Are there charts telling us how many people are being admitted to hospital? As surely current death rates are people who caught it some weeks back.

Drivingdownthe101 · 12/05/2020 17:45

That’s really interesting Orangeblossom78.
I’m certainly not being dragged out of lockdown against my will!

Drivingdownthe101 · 12/05/2020 17:47

Here, TheGreatWave.

www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences

Hospital admissions are dropping consistently in most places.

Orangeblossom78 · 12/05/2020 17:52

It is interesting that the British see it very differently to other EU countries despite some of them having high rates also. Maybe Boris and the adverts combined to scare us so much...

Orangeblossom78 · 12/05/2020 17:53

British public is being taken out of lockdown against its will

Imagines EU people thinking of the Brits hiding under their table or sat resolutely on their sofas!

TheGreatWave · 12/05/2020 17:55

Thank you driving I don't watch the daily updates but those graphs are very interesting. There will always be peaks and troughs, tis the nature of the beast, but I do think we need to focus on the hospital admissions at this point rather than focusing on the death rate.

I will have a proper look later on my pc, not the best on a teeny phone.

Daffodil101 · 12/05/2020 18:06

I saw several drink idiots happily out of lockdown last Friday. Suddenly being dragged?

Bollss · 12/05/2020 18:07

If we are a laughing stock it's definitely because some of the population are acting like babies throwing their teddies out.

trappedsincesundaymorn · 12/05/2020 18:08

LilacTree1

I last hugged my dad 4 weeks ago and we're both still alive...we hugged in full view of the neighbours as well. If both parties feel the need for a hug is greater than the risk of contracting the "bug" then go for it.

Cattermole · 12/05/2020 18:15

I'm actually feeling really grateful for this thread, not to mention Handjob's Half Wits, because normally one of my least favourite jobs is taking mum's clinical waste out: not only is it stinky but it makes me really sad. If he reckons after they expecting me to ship out adult diapers full of her pee I'm gonna get squeamish about giving her a hug, he can kiss my ass.

SomewhereEast · 12/05/2020 18:17

Currently trying to cheer myself up by pondering a) Is Rishi Sunak attractive? and b) Should his attractive-Rishi-Sunak nickname be Dishy Sunak or Rishi Snack?

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 12/05/2020 18:20

I’m actually in floods of tears hearing Matt Hancock say we’ll never be able to hug anyone again

When did he say that? Miserable bastard. Can't contemplate a world in which I can't hug my partner, my siblings and their families or my friends just because I don't live with them.

I find it's usually the people who live with a partner, kids, all the people they love most who go along with that shite. In the real world we will all make our own minds up and do what we want whilst still being careful.

OutwardBound2016 · 12/05/2020 18:22

Runners should now be AT LEAST 4m away from another human as everyone knows that runners breath differently, I mean FFS the world has gone utterly mad. I really wish all the dementors would just STAY THE FUCK at home while the sensible people went about their business.

fartingsparkles · 12/05/2020 18:29

I'll be hugging my best friend when I get to see them - and I will let them in my house. They are the only person I want to hug, and I don't give a flyer what anyone thinks. No physical contact except with 2 small children for 8 weeks and a close relative's death, at the same time as reliving some crap times from the last few years (not PTSD, but definitely traumatic) means that it is definitely needed.

Disclaimer: both social distancing in every other way, and abiding by all the guidelines