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Anti Dementors, Assemble!

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Mascotte · 11/05/2020 17:46

I think I finished the last thread by accident...

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bookworm14 · 12/05/2020 08:51

LivinLaVidLoki I am also the parent of an only child. If the bloody unions block my daughter from returning to school in June I honestly think I will stop calling myself left wing. How dare they take people’s choice away? The child mental health crisis as a result of lockdown is going to be appalling.

DrearyWallAntler · 12/05/2020 09:01

I wouldn't say people are thick per se. I think people struggle with reading/comprehension more than I realised but then again it's hard to seperate this from the wilfully obstinate and partisan attitudes that populate social media.

The fact you can come up with a dementors bingo card really shows that mantras are thrown around without any critical thinking. Then if enough people say it it must be true. There will be people for whom those thoughts are a considered view, but they are lost in the social media din.

Tappering · 12/05/2020 09:07

Morning all - bloody hell these threads are moving quickly!

I managed to coax DH out for a walk yesterday. He's really frightened (but trying not to show it), so I have been quite gentle with him even when he disapprovingly showed me the conga footage from VE day

He'd asked for masks after we went out yesterday morning. I wasn't keen but thought if it would make him feel safer leaving the house then fine. As it turns out ordering them about 3 hours prior to the announcement wasn't a bad move!

heroku · 12/05/2020 09:08

I also think it's because our media would rather report Donald Trump's latest brain fart or Boris Johnson's takeaway Costa than proper analysis about the situation. I've been really disappointed by some of the papers, especially the Guardian, during all this. I'm a lefty (whatever that means) but the Times and the Telegraph have done a much better job reporting actual facts and providing a counterpoint to the accepted "we're all doomed" narrative.

Tappering · 12/05/2020 09:09

Agree - I don't think people are 'more stupid'. I think there's a mix of people. Some want to be part of the in-crowd, because it's nice to have people agreeing with you. Others will quietly think differently but be too scared to speak up in case they are dragged all over social media, so they follow along. At the core will be a few dementors who whip everyone up and set the agenda.

pollyhemlock · 12/05/2020 09:11

Yes, thank you @DressingGownofDoom that’s made me laugh! We’re better off than many people because we have a garden and lots of countryside round to walk in.But we have adult DD who has SLD and some health and behaviour issues with us all day and every day, and I can’t explain to her why she can’t go to her day centre like she normally does every day. I try to get her out for walks but she often doesn’t want to go so she spends a lot of time in front of Mr Tumble. It’s not knowing when this is going to change that’s so difficult. But the anti dementor threads on here have cheered me up !

Willitneverend · 12/05/2020 09:13

Hullo, just checking in.

The dementoring forecast for the day appears to be tourism in the morning, although with gathering peaks of "You wouldn't say that if one of your relatives had died", and ongoing schools dementoring, carrying the pressure system we saw develope yesterday.

In Scotland, there are very heavy showers of Scottish exceptionalist dementoring, with similar patterns detected in Wales and Northern Ireland.

savehalloween · 12/05/2020 09:16

gro I'm Welsh and I'm really unimpressed. I think the Welsh government are making rules based on being seen to be different from Westminster, rather than using any kind of sound logic.

Besides following the data (eg. If there was another big outbreak in say Gwent, that might require stricter measures for that area) there is no reason we should be doing anything differently.

Our devolved powers seem to have had early benefits. Our healthcare staff were tested quite a while before that started in England and we had better ICU capacity. But generally I feel strongly we should be all singing from the same hymn sheet on this.

And now this. His dismissive attitude is pretty insulting to those of us who have followed his unnecessarily strict rules www.walesonline.co.uk/news/news-opinion/wales-first-minister-made-massive-18235813

Bollss · 12/05/2020 09:16

I've just had a long chat with my friend who's in the same position.

We've heard nothing from our work place since we were furloughed. School / nursery is up in the air and our employer has not been the most understanding.

I think I'll end up furloughed until September if that becomes an option later today just so they don't have to pay me / deal with me. I think they'll make me redundant when the scheme ends to be honest. We'll see.

I want Ds to go to nursery for the social aspect so even if I'm furloughed I'd send him for his funded hours for a couple of months.

Feel hugely stuck in a rut and the dementors aren't helping Sad

MorrisZapp · 12/05/2020 09:17

Brilliant :)

Mascotte · 12/05/2020 09:22

@Willitneverend 😂😂

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Mascotte · 12/05/2020 09:24

The bingo words are back with a vengeance today.

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MorrisZapp · 12/05/2020 09:26

Lol, the whole thread is of course brilliant but my little 'brilliant' there was for the weather forecast :)

I just hope it was delivered Thomas Shiffyshackernacker style on Country File, and involved at least two undone shirt buttons.

ThatLibraryMiss · 12/05/2020 09:28

IfYouCantSeeMyMirrors, I can see three big problems with switching to an on-line version of schooling with a few on-site lessons:

  1. Teenagers are frequently lazy and it will be difficult to motivate them to read that lovely 19th-century novel (thank you so much, Michael Gove!). They will be happy to equate not being at school to not having any school work to do. Earlier years need frequent intervention from someone who's actually there.
  1. The childcare issue. We know the mantra is "school isn't childcare" but actually, it is. How many parents can work at home and both carry out the job they're being paid for and give their children enough attention to make sure they do schoolwork and stay out of trouble, even if they don't actually have to play a rôle in the learning? This is not just pre-teens; teenagers are not known for their impulse control and sensible behaviour.
  1. Socialisation. We are, as PPs have said, a social animal. Unless the on-line model provides an opportunity for pupils to mix - and how can it? With fewer staff actually in schools you have to have fewer pupils on-site at any time - children will be missing out on meeting other children from different year groups, abilities and backgrounds.
MorrisZapp · 12/05/2020 09:29

My great fun/slightly chavvy work crush has gone full dementor. Never thought I'd hear the words 'second spike' from his full lips but here we are. I'm reconsidering my plan to cycle the 8 miles to his house to flirt through his gate posts.

trappedsincesundaymorn · 12/05/2020 09:34

I just hope it was delivered Thomas Shiffyshackernacker style on Country File, and involved at least two undone shirt buttons

Is there any other reason to watch Countryfile....he makes having to suffer the smug rare breed farmer so much more bearable.

savehalloween · 12/05/2020 09:37

They've really got to me this week. I need to get back into my positive bubble. I found the way up to lockdown the hardest and suspect the way back down will be similar. There's even more news each day, more opinions online, more uncertainty.

Mascotte · 12/05/2020 09:38

@MorrisZapp that gave me a Jilly Cooper type vision in my head.. the heroine arrives flushed and breathless, undoes some buttons to cool off.. only to hear the crushing words, "Consider the second wave, you murderer!"

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Shodan · 12/05/2020 09:39

Ds2 is struggling again (he's 12). Came downstairs last night in floods of tears, he's thinking sad thoughts all the time, tearfully asking if 'when this is all over' do I think he should see a therapist.

He's fucking 12. He should be testing my boundaries, meeting his friends, not crying at the hopelessness he's feeling. And I'm doing the best I can while feeling (and trying to hide) my own miserableness.

I'm thinking of writing to my MP about the lack of consideration for ids in his school year (and those in the two years above) who were ignored in the address, but is there anyone else I should write to?

I read that thread about the 3%er. Honestly it's shocking , those teachers who are rushing about like headless chickens spreading misinformation, wailing and beating their chests about germs and certain death. I do NOT want them to be in charge of my child's education - who knows what rubbish they might teach.

Anyway I've decided that as of tomorrow (the Great and Wondrous Wednesday) his homework can be dismissed, if the weather is good and we can go somewhere. I'm going to pack him, (and ds1 if he wants), a picnic and drinks into the car and go somewhere that's not here for the day. If I lived closer I'd go to Devon or Cornwall just to be contrary Grin

DianneWhatcock · 12/05/2020 09:42

Wow nearly 300 posts

Hello everyone !

Just been on Facebook - dementors on local spotted site posting from Asda frothing about how many people are in the shop "boris didn't end lockdown why are all these people here like it's a day out !! it's a shop not a park!!"

Jesus where to start 🤦‍♀️

Drivingdownthe101 · 12/05/2020 09:46

My aunt in Wales keeps posting things like this...

Anti Dementors, Assemble!
Smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 12/05/2020 09:48

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Mascotte · 12/05/2020 09:48

@Shodan it's horrible. I've just heard mine in the phone to his friend saying he's fed up. I'm trying so hard to think of things to help him but I'm an old woman: he needs to do something! And it's Scotland so no outings even. I m feeling quite angry now.

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Daffodil101 · 12/05/2020 09:55

We are all running out of steam here. It’s easier with my younger one, I can do some homeschooling and catch her attention/imagination - teenager much harder and much more difficult to read her (fluctuating) moods.

I really, really enjoy reading this thread.

banivani · 12/05/2020 09:55

Well, I live in Sweden, the country that never locked down. Our death rate from this is depressing (and probably accurate and not inflated or underestimated), and shows that we did not manage to protect our most vulnerable elderly people at all. I believe that this is because after decades of cutting back and paring costs in that sector there was no proper plan to ensure that the elderly in care met as few people as possible and no support system so staff could ensure that they stayed healthy (for example extra economic support so they would stay home if even slightly sick, over-hauling all staff schedules to avoid temp workers etc). This needs to be properly analysed by the authorities and I hope they learn something from it, it's tragic.

However our schools did not close (except high school level and universities). There are not masses of teachers dying, there are not masses of children dying. My son plays ("ohmygod we're hanging out not pLaYInG") with friends outside pretty much every day too.

If you're interested, this is a link to the Swedish Public Health Authority's statistics page. In the center of the page are two graphs of the same sort that show, on the left, number of cases of illness in each age group (bear in mind though that we haven't managed mass testing either so these are only the laboratory confirmed cases) and on the right number of deceased in each age group.

I mean, there is a risk, but at some level we have to manage the risk.

The approach is by no means perfect, but it's also not not working, iyswim. Our big danger now is that people are beginning to relax, to use public transport more, congregate in bigger groups and so on.

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