Anti-Dementor Alliance Thread - learn how to produce your patronus here

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New thread!

I read that awful drivel and thought it reminded me of a 70s information film.

I do wonder what percentage of people have fallen down the dementor rabbit hole. I feel like it’s a very vocal minority, but maybe that’s because I’m not on Facebook and everyone I know in real life wants to see a sensible lifting of lockdown.

Local newspaper article, county population: 796,000. Cases identified by testing yesterday: 17.
Yep, those VE day cases are going to cause a huge spike of cases around here

OMG the private swimming pool thread. "Are you going to exercise or just fanny around?".

TinRoofRusty we have to destroy all personal belongings, wash other stuff with a disinfectant solution. Anything that the patient has brought in.

@Theluggage15 I'm sure your daughter will do well, however things pan out for her! I do think there will be work - there must be a lot of itinerant foreign workers who have left London at the start of Covid-19 and not necessarily in a hurry to come back. To say nothing of Aussies on the round-the-world trip and so on. So I'm sure there will be temp openings if she needs them.

The recession wasn't probably anywhere near as scary for an early-20s as this current situation, but I remember having to make some quick and unexpected decisions. And they turned out to be okay ones!

Something that I've been thinking for a while - and I am quite happy to get bashed for saying this if it comes across as insensitive. But I've seen so many "Can I bring my 24-yo son/daughter home" threads. And I'm thinking, does 24-yo son/daughter actually want to be "rescued" from their house share and brought home? I get that there will be some situations where it's advisable - mental health, isolation, issues with housemates, so on. But when I was that age, I think the only way I'd have been "brought home" would have been literal kidnapping! In fact, I remember my mother in Paris fretting during the summer on the swine flu (it would catch me on the metro, she heard that there were piles of bodies on the London streets ... she has overdramatic tendencies) and I was like, "it's fine, mother, chill!"

I work with a lot of people of uni-age who are going through difficulties (I won't be too specific, but it is a very particular area of MH) and sadly a lot of those people will have had to "go home" and it won't be a particularly good or easy situation for them. I feel bad that I am off work atm, that I can't even play my part in supporting them as I usually would

I'm sure Berthold, but I can't imagine people sit writing letters whilst they're that sick. But hey, it was 'I'm sharing this with anyone who doesn't socially distance.' One of my children died on a vent of lung disease, people don't realise usually you're sick before you get to that point and really not at the stage of writing letters. But it's good shock value.

@TooManyButtons

Wow what an absolute load of drivel- it eats your chest?! It would be laughable if it wasn’t so cringeworthy. Yes it DOES remind me of those over the top public information films in the 70s and 80s! They were like mini final destination films whereby a kid would die horribly doing something risky or would be abducted by a stranger. Eve back then they were based purely on fear rather than factual information

I feel bad that I am off work atm, that I can't even play my part in supporting them as I usually would

Be sure to tell us if any of them get the virus and then we can think about having some sympathy for them

No, in all seriousness, that must feel so worrying and horrible. For so many children and teens etc living with abuse, getting out their homes and having a few hours at school is a lifeline. I can't even bear to think what some of them are going through. And there are so many vulnerable university students too who have only just got out of their abusive environments.

Also why is it “taking her in the dark”? Covid doesn’t affect light bulbs.....couldn’t she just switch the light on?

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People seem to be gleefully waiting the post VE Day spike in deaths

I must say I've been quite shocked at the amount of spite on here of late, and that's after many years of reading Brexit/smoking/vaping type threads.

I guess it must just be a personality thing. Some people will always tend towards the gloomy and sanctimonious; this current crisis just gives them 'permission' to be at their vilest.

Oh my God, Brexit...! It seems like light relief now.

But I do remember, so many people saying "we just NEED to leave, it's keeping me awake at night" or "you've destroyed my children's future by voting Leave" and thinking, did any of you even give the EU a passing thought before politicians told us that it was A Thing?

Wow we're on another new one already!! Breathtaking dementoring tonight on my fb, where even to start with this one

@Jourdain11 yes you’re absolutely right about youngsters staying where they are. I did say to my daughter that she could of course come home if she wanted to but she rightly said that her flat is her home now and she wanted to stay. I didn’t push it as I knew it was more about me than her and she is a woman now not a child.

She has been absolutely fine, it was definitely the right decision to stay, she is far happier living with her friend than back with mum and dad and rowing with her younger brother who still lives at home!

I feel very sorry for all the youngsters and children in difficult home situations. I don’t really think the grand announcement today of new cycle lanes are going to do much for them.

Just to add that I know this person is not vulnerable or on the shielding list

Just super paranoid

Here is an interesting Twitter thread by a Dr Muge Cevik of St Andrews University. She has looked at various Covid cluster studies from around the world.

The first is a large Chinese study of 2,147 close contacts of 157 positive cases. Overall the infection rate was 6%, rising to 22% among friends and 18% among family. Locations: homes 13%, transport 12% and entertainment/eating together 7%. She looks at another 13 studies.

Her conclusions so far seem to be that 'close and prolonged contact is required for Covid-19 transmission. The highest risk is in closed environments; household, long-term care facilities and public transport. ... Casual, short interactions are not the main driver of the epidemic though keep social distancing.'
'In household, this risk is about 15-20% but in crowded closed places this can go up to 40% (super spreading events).'

I've just quoted a small selection of her comments. It's really worth reading the whole thread, specially at the beginning, although the number of questions from other people gradually increases and the thread gets fuller.

It certainly doesn't look as if she concludes that walking past someone out of doors is likely to transmit the virus.

Those of you who are thinking about quality vs quantity of life: is this a discussion you've had with your next of kin? Do they know how you feel and you how they feel?

There's an online form for an Advance Decision (Living Will) here. Even if you don't want to fill it in it's a good prompt for discussions about the circumstances under which you'd prefer no life-sustaining treatment.

We have the "Charley Says" DVD which is all the old PI films. They actually make quite good, easy viewing. DH always comments on the ones he found terrifying, the kids are like "yeah, whatever" I presume CGI has made the shaky 70's films a bit Tom and Jerry like.

Can I have a tiger as my Patronus please? It's a favourite animal here.

The bitterness of some of the dementors is astonishing. They must have very sad lives to be so constantly negative.

My in laws (and I) are grieving a non covid related death of someone in their 50s. I do wonder if the dementors would see it as 'worthy', or does that only apply to c19 deaths?

@amicissimma it is interesting. Even in cruise ships and a French aircraft carrier there was a large proportion who were not unwell.

@ThatLibraryMiss thanks, that's helpful. I think I'll use that as a basis for a letter and a discussion just so he knows!

Hopefully won't need it but I'd rather be organised on this.

Dianne I always feel that attitude is quite selfish. It's "I'm so grateful for those doing x, y, z" (for the positive feelz) but actually what is really meant is "me and mine are so much more important than you and yours."

Plus - I don't think schools will continue to provide online learning indefinitely. So you want to keep your child at home - fine, but they will be taken off school roll and you'll be responsible for their education. I don't get how people are not realising this?

A shiney new thread yeah😄

Yep that 'Boris and coffee' thread is nuts! A non event but op wants to make it the crime of the century along with a couple of others.
I wish the dementors would actually read the guidelines before spouting such crap so much crap.

Need to think about my patronus.🤔

Jourdain11, I think they imagine that teachers will set and mark work to be done at home. They also will expect extra help for their children to catch up when/if they ever go back to school, and will blame the school ("That school failed our Anni-Mae") for said child's future lack of academic success.

@DianneWhatcock Love that FB post - lockdown until no deaths at all?! Imagine a world where we avoided any possible chance of death. I think it'd be a world where I was suddenly looking forward to death....

I guess on a positive note if all these people stay home forever then everywhere will be less busy for the rest of us!