Dementors Begone!

[ThatLibraryMiss]

Take your shaming and your doom and gloom somewhere else.

'Today 01:25 DressingGownofDoom

I'm actually enjoying my coronavirus shopping trips. Oftentimes you get the awkward little pause when you and someone else wants to look at the same shelf, and neither of you knows the protocol and you both just laugh at how odd it all is.'

Yes! There was a really nice vibe in my town the other day when I went to buy haberdashery and post scrubs. Everyone was socially distancing properly but was a bit more used to it so it was fairly relaxed, and shop staff who had been stressed a few weeks before had got their masks and their Perspex screens now so were calmer.

I’ve just been reading the Italy v UK sympathy thread

FFS, we’re arrogant, everyone hates us, we’re the laughing stock of the world, we’re the worst people ever, etc, etc.

I should think (hope) the world are far more worried about what’s going on in their own countries to be laughing at us

Every country records the deaths differently, we all have different sized populations, population density, etc. It’s not helpful to compare. Plus, we’re not going to know the true rates for each country for months, if not years.

Shut up already!

Everyone is a fucking expert!

I have friends in Sweden, Italy, Spain, Denmark and USA.

We arent a "laughing stock". My friends dont think that much about the UK lol, they are too busy focusing on their own lives just like everyone else is. People parrot these phrases without any evidence or really knowing what they mean. As someone said upthread, alot of dementors are thick as shit and dont even know what theyre talking about- they echo and parrot what they've heard from others or from the daily mail without really understanding it.

and VE Day - a jingoistic wank fest. Do fuck off

Honestly, I got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning, I am so not in the mood for this bollocks today. I’m going to paint fence panels

I think I’d be far more sympathetic of the people who live in countries who’s leaders who insist they have no cases, who tell them to drink disinfectant or where coronavirus doctors have epidemics of “falling” out of windows or simply disappear. Countries where people fight over food as there’s minimal financial support during lockdown.

I think our government (for whatever reason) under-estimated the contagiousness of the virus early on (and therefore the rate of spread, type of ppe they should have stock piled etc). But they and many scientists are working hard on this and you can’t speculate on comparative data that doesn’t exist yet.

I just wish more work had gone in to firewalling between care homes and hospitals. In animal disease control, they pre-move test an animal before transferring it to another holding and it’s then quarantined for a period before mixing with others.... obviously people aren’t cows but the principle fits.

Aside from this I think the transmission risk in the general public is much lower than people realise.

So I just went on a Dementor thread, started to formulate a scathing reply then before I posted I... hid the thread. It’s a revelation. It’s amazing. I am freeeeeee!

I hate to go all armchair psychologist but I do work in psychiatry and classifying people as either all good or all bad is a textbook personality disorder trait. Its called "splitting". Its the inability to hold opposing thoughts, feelings or beliefs. So, if a person makes a mistake, they are instantly EVIL and wrong and forever tainted. Their whole character is painted as "bad". Similarly, when someone does something good, they are sanctified and sainted as perfect/angelic and someone who can do no wrong. There is a complete inability to recognise shades of grey and the complexities and flaws of the human character. Very, very few people are all bad or all good- we are all a mixture of traits and we all make mistakes. We are all flawed.

But people who split, are unable to recognise this so they categorise people into the evil category or the good category. Its classic dementor behaviour and its a glaring sign that someone really is unable to regulate their emotional responses.

Hence: Italy = Perfect, good, angelic
UK= evil, bad, wrong

They did the same thing with Sweden- when Sweden adopted herd immunity it was considered brilliant and sensible.
When we considered it, it was murder and evil.

You cannot debate with them, they are literally incapable of seeing it through any other lens or in any other way.

I'm actually enjoying my coronavirus shopping trips. Oftentimes you get the awkward little pause when you and someone else wants to look at the same shelf, and neither of you knows the protocol and you both just laugh at how odd it all is.

We’re not quite at that level round here @DressingGownofDoom, but I AM enjoying that people aren’t practically sitting in your trolley when you’re at the till loading the conveyor! This is space I’ll fight to keep!! 😊

I think, for me, it’s the insistence on focusing on daily death rates (which are inaccurate) and worse the total number, as if that’s representative of risk to everyone equally that frustrates me the most.

These dementors are just gleefully clinging on to this propaganda to increase panic, misery and prolong this agony. They’re enjoying this and it’s making me think differently about those who insist on dementing.

What WILL dementors find to do WTIAO? How will they cope when they have nobody’s chips to piss over? Maybe we can clap for them?

The maths guru dementor can be countered by reminding them that life is a terminal illness and that everyone who contracts Covid19 will die... eventually. That one usually gets them scratching their head wondering how that statistic works out for long enough for you to make a good exit!

I did have to smile when I saw this on joining our street party last night.

THERE WILL BE BODIES IN THE STREETS !!!

Interesting. Yes I posted previously in one of the earlier threads about psychological projection, passing bad feelings onto others- and how this comes out in normal people in 'times of crisis' apparently

Sounds kind of similar to splitting which I have also heard of / black and white thinking...

"Projection tends to come to the fore in normal people at times of personal or political crisis[19] but is more commonly found in personalities functioning at a primitive level"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Psychological projection is a defense mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a bully may project their own feelings of vulnerability onto the target. It incorporates blame shifting and can manifest as shame dumping.[2]

@orangeblossom78

Exactly! Theres a lot going on here when you un pick it

@AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter that's a really interesting post, and it makes sense to me. I've often wondered why some people are absolutely immovable in their belief of XYZ, even in the face of really compelling evidence to the contrary.

If you want a heartbreaking example of how badly the dementor talk is affecting people - there's a thread in corona called my child has lost it - and what's really hammered it home to me is the number of kids now utterly utterly terrified of flying things. I assumed it was just DD2 who had developed this but it seems to be insanely common and it can only be them equating the endless talk of viruses with anything floating around in the air in my mind.

It's actually truly heartbreaking to read. Those saying that if you send your child back to school you need to send them with their own body bag really are the ones doing this to this generation of kids.

Garden centres are going to open from next week and people allowed to exercise more / no limit on it

Sounds positive (not that I ever really did the only once a day thing anyway)

Yes imagine the dementors children picking up on all this.. very worrying

If garden centres open, does that mean that “non-essential” travel will be relaxed as well so you can get there?

The mental gymnastics over Swedens approach were incredible.

But no as incredible as people believing that Britain impacts on the thoughts of anywhere in the world.

They kind of have their own shit going on at the moment.

@AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter that's really interesting. And also why the dementor types come over as a bit thick sometimes. I'd like to understand as I struggle to deal with this black and white thinking irl from acquaintances.

Ah the VE day celebrations will cause a huge spike in two weeks time.

Quite sure they said the same thing about Easter weekend.

People with autism do that, too, Alexis. I have had several on my caseload with very dichotomous thinking who were wrongly dx with a personality disorder. And some v tricky ones who were correctly dx with both

@mascotte

Yeah, its fascinating to me.

Seeing the world in two extremes is also mentally exhausting but its an unconscious attempt to control anxiety. I suspect it makes them feel safer to believe that "good" people keep to a strict lockdown schedule and "bad" people dont. Therefore, if you sit on a park bench for 5 minutes, instead of considering , well maybe they needed a break? maybe they are elderly and need a rest? maybe they have a disability and needed to rest their legs? maybe they just wanted to sit and take a calming breath? NO. Theyre EVIL murderers. Its sad because it prevents actual rational thought.

@daffodil101

Yes, very true about autism

Is it a bit like emotional reasoning where thought is based on / driven by emotions and therefore it is difficult to be rational? I have heard something about this