Dementors Begone!

[ThatLibraryMiss]

Take your shaming and your doom and gloom somewhere else.

Daffodil101 Haha. That is the kind of thing I really really want to post back when someone says 'ffs how hard is it to understand... Selfish... Etc'. I'm trying so hard to maintain a sensible moral high ground but at some point I think I might have to join one of those threads and honest about how unpleasant and stupid some PPs are being.

I'm hoping that we're down the road to developing herd immunity, especially if the virus has been present a few months longer than officially known. We don't know the extent of mild and assymptomatic transmission, and hopefully as society opens back up there is a smaller proportion of the population susceptible which will add more tolerance to the R rates.

To me it makes sense to increase social activity at this time while the weather is favourable for outdoor activities and disadvantageous to the virus.

I did find a nest of Dementoring on fb over horror at the newspaper headlines. The people involved are definitely prone to anxiety anyway, and aren't normally Dementors. I didn't engage.

Honestly, I’m on the cusp of just replying ‘you sound thick as shit.’

Thatlibrarymiss. Ah yes, the new maths. That is definitely a thing. I have had great difficulty not giving vent to my inner maths geek, especially on those threads - thankfully now fewer in number - where people were spouting things like 'well even if only 1% of people get it, out of a population of 65,000,000 that's 6 million people dying'. I've been hoping that those threads have stopped because PPs at least took out a calculator even if they didn't look up transmission and testing rates. Dear God save me.

The Dementoring over strict adherence to imaginary rules was one of the worst features of early lockdown. Yes, it was scary to see how many people would buy in to a Stasi or Chinese Communist Revolution type event. I like to think of myself as a decent, law abiding type, but I simply CBA to get wound up by petty tiptoeing around the boundaries of the rules. Mind you, I always thought I was a bit wussy to be a resistance type either, just head down and do enough of what's required.

The Dementoring is more amusing to me now. I'm more confident about what is going on and the impact of my activities within that. Getting to recognise lead Dementors and their bingo catchphrases is definitely like a patronus, or more accurately the Ridiculous spell for getting rid of a Boggart.

Actually some are more Boggarty than Dementory, they're the troll types that just latch on to whatever will scare us most rather than the ones genuinely so miserable that they'll suck your soul out and feast on the misery.

@BogRollBOGOF totally ! Surely it’s better to let more people gradually get it now in the summer when flu isn’t around as well?

I am sure that’s the gov tacit strategy tbh

Yes, there is a direct correlation between intelligence and dementoring am sure

🗄 I've found a nice cupboard for the Boggarts

Urgh now theyre saying Raab is too kind and gentle and that they should have a "bulldog" barking out orders to the public.

What next? "Hitler wasnt all bad really, he was a vegetarian after all and at least he had authority" voms

I just saw a massive argument on my Facebook feed about whether ice-cream vendors should be out trading from their vans. Were they allowed or should they be reported to the police?

They are allowed. They class as takeaway food, they have permission from their local council to continue as well. They were wearing masks and gloves which they changed regularly and they weren't handling money directly as it had to go into separate pots. Some were even operating as a small scale home delivery service.

The dementors were out in force. "Call the police, they are killing people" etc. Thankfully a moderator (from the group, I guess) stepped in and locked the thread.

It wasn't my local FB group. It was one I had investigated when some family who live a long way from us needed the volunteer service. Which they got. It is a very good service and very nice people. Like any other though, batshit posts can appear.

I think the dementors are the same people who show vitriol to anyone who doesn’t dare adhere to their idea of how you SHOULD be. So for example trans kids , single parents , anyone who questions the perceived ‘norm’ basically

Yes. Sorry, I know this is a few pages back and the conversation has moved on, but this is something I notice all the time on MN and have thought about a lot.

It’s what’s behind so many of the “schisms” on here; WOHMs vs SAHMs, city dwellers vs country folk, drivers vs non-drivers etc. To me it seems to come down to people needing conformity in order to validate their choices. People making different choices is threatening, especially if they don’t appear to be suffering or worse off as a result.

There was a classic example in that thread a few weeks ago, with the OP and the black-sheep, hippy, single parent SIL, living in a commune and enjoying life during lockdown. Meanwhile the OP, who had made all the “correct” life choices, was miserable and didn’t think it was fair.

And now we have the current situation, where people have sacrificed so much (some more than is actually necessary). Then they see people making different choices and not suffering as a consequence, and they’re forced to question if their own sacrifices are worth it, which is really uncomfortable. It’s comforting to imagine that people who are “breaking the rules”, or even have a different perception of risk, will be directly “punished” by them or their loved ones getting ill, but they probably won’t.

There was a classic example in that thread a few weeks ago, with the OP and the black-sheep, hippy, single parent SIL, living in a commune and enjoying life during lockdown. Meanwhile the OP, who had made all the “correct” life choices, was miserable and didn’t think it was fair

I saw this thread and it was crazy. People can’t stand the fact that people who make the ‘wrong’ life choices (in their eyes) can be happier/more successful than them.

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I have said that a few times and been screamed at for being hysterical and stupid but its exactly the same just different 'crimes'. Coupled with the fact people were so quick to jump on anyone without any actual 'rule' to back them up it is worrying.
Half the reporting in Germany was shite too but that was a good excuse to get rid of anyone who you thought wasnt quite following orders. Its scary how quickly people will turn on each other wtshtf.

To me it seems to come down to people needing conformity in order to validate their choices

Spot on! Some people get really offended if others make different life choices to them. They see it as a reflection on their choices and then get angry that things are working out well for them. They think their way is the only way to live and others being successful yet living differently to them makes them furious.

It’s so weird to me because we are all so different, of course we are all going to live differently. It would be intensely creepy if my neighbours started living the exact same way as me and copying whatever I did! I just can’t imagine getting angry or upset because other people are making different life choices. Who cares? I’m too busy focusing on my own stuff to have time fretting about what other people are doing behind closed doors. What a waste of a life spending time doing that. It’s sad.

I have done a special dementor graph of death. My toddler has added to it in blue, you can see shes even more pessimistic than a dementor.

Brilliant work! 😆

Brilliant, Willit.
Which one of you shall we put on SAGE?

Thank you. The toddler is busy making mud pies and so boosting her immune system, so seems like a good choice.

That’s the best laugh I’ve had in ages, thank you!

Love the graph

Hahahaha brilliant. I’m just refilling my chavvy sex pond so am well on my way to committing genocide.

I know someone who is on SAGE... very sensible person without dementor tendencies in the slightest. VERY amused that it's all so secret squirrel and nobody is supposed to know who is on the (large) panel of experts.

Still so glad to have this thread.

Was noseying at the various 'have/will you break lockdown' (I hate that fucking word!). There are so many on there who think they have 'broken the rules' where I can see at best they have slightly bent them. Those who think they have because they chatted to friend who passed their house at over 2m distance, surely have done anything wrong. I think sometimes common sense and critical thinking has come to a standstill!

For full disclosure my best friend is considering coming to my house, in over a week's time (so who knows what the guidance will be then). Over the period of lockdown neither of us have been out, other than to a shop (even more briefly now with click and collect slots) or for a short walk (once or twice a week). I am a single parent with 2 young children, one of whom has had a birthday recently (celebrated only with me and toddler sibling) and we have lost a close relative, very suddenly (not c19, unknown reason at moment). I have found this whole period particularly difficult because I couldn't see my friend. And I cannot guarantee that social distancing will be strictly adhered to should they visit, as my kids will want to hug them (as will I). But I also know that if the visit does happen, we will all feel hugely better for it.

Thank the lord I’ve finally found this thread. This is where the sane people have been hiding. From now on I think this is the only thread I can read as I’m very close to being very offensive to all dementors on MN and probably being banned.

Just been reading that in the US hate crime is up against ethnic minorities who they think are spreading the virus. (not really the case, more that it hits those people worse so it seems that way to some)

Yes how quick people are to blame and shame others...