Which Real Life Mystery Do You Find Most Fascinating?

[LifeIsBrutal]

Mine is D. B. Cooper. He hijacked a beong 727, stole $1.25 million in today's money, and parachuted down to earth with it. His identity is unknown and it's unknown if he survived the plunge to earth.

There is a podcast called Seeing Red and they have covered the Chillenden Murders and Billie Jo Jenkins too.

There's another podcast to add to the list!

Did anyone watch the documentary on the death of Stuart Lubbock? It seems mysterious that no one at that party knows anything 🤨

Stuart Lubbock was raped and killed that night I’ve always been convinced after watching that documentary I’m even more sure ☹️

That documentary about Stuart was sad, his poor family not getting justice yet just adds to their pain, you could see that in his dad’s face.

Another case I have always been horrified but intrigued by in the murder of Lyn Russell, youngest, dog and attempted murder of eldest child

That's a case that has always stuck in my end, just so so sad, and seemingly a completely random attack? I know it's tragic and awful whenever people get murdered, but completely random attacks are so so rare it just makes it feel even more unfortunate.

I remember interviews with the older daughter, what an awful thing to try deal with at only 9.

I’m not sure PP do know what happened to Jon Benet... much like the poorly researched and biased ‘investigators’ on the shit Netflix documentary.

Autopsy said she died of asphyxiation, from the garrot, and there was evidence (other than DNA) of sexual assault.

Further tests in 2007/8, not available at the time, also provided evidence of this. This DNA, that matched the DNA under her fingernails when she was found, did not match anyone in the family. And it was males.

But I digress, people ‘know’ that didn’t happen. (In the same way they know another child deaths siblings are going to clear up all that situation with her being missing because they have turned into ‘thoughtful adults’. But don’t want to do it ^before^ that long awaited day)

Patsy was cleared in handwriting samples, But maybe she did write the note as that is the ‘only explanation’. Or maybe someone or more than just someone (let’s say two) targeted her for a kidnapping, and took the note with them? Or entered the house whilst the family were at the party and wrote the note whilst they were in the house, before or after the Ramsey’s returned. It was a huge house maybe they hid.

Maybe it was planned to kidnap her for money, or to sexually assault her, or both. Or just to kill her before or after or during a sexual assault, and make it look like someone else, but I wouldn’t want to speculate any other motive for her killing, because that would be guessing wouldn’t it?

PP said there was no evidence of a break in, but there is evidence of a 70+ man (An investigator) climbing in a window, in the basement, and back out again fairly easily (you can you tube this). Because ‘brake in’ does not always mean a smashed window. That window didn’t lock and wasn’t secure. He suggested that was a way an intruder got in?

But the male (the one with the DNA in her knickers and leggings, and under her nails) could have walked through the front door whilst they were out.

That investigator resigned with frustration at the police, who later had to apologise. Publicly. After admitting and acknowledging ‘they put out misinformation to the media, to the public, to try to put pressure on the Ramseys to either make a mistake or break or confess’.

Which didn’t happen. And the psycho incestuous child murderous brother has never been convicted of a crime apart from looking anxious on TV and living a relatively normal adult life with his girlfriend and a job.

The Mull Air Mystery.
Pilot goes missing while on a solo flight. Four months later his uninsured body is found on a hillside.

As there's no salt on his clothes officials conclude he crashed in a freshwater lock on the island and died of exposure while walking to safety.

However some time after that part of his plane washes up from the sea.

Also the spot where the body was found was passed frequently by farmers and was unlikely to be missed, so if he crashed in the sea how did he end up on a hillside with no salt on his body and how was it missed for four months?

@whogoncheckmeBoo

That's the best laugh I've had all day. I presume the other investigator you refer to is Lou Schmidt ......

If you do some thorough reading on the grand jury indictment it's not really as conclusive as Patsy being 'cleared'.

I say it time and time again but when you look at all the circumstances; the evidence and the reactions and behaviours logic can only lead to one conclusion which is at least that there wasn't an intruder. I'm about as certain on that as OJ Simpson having killed his ex wife and the innocent bystander.

@whogoncheckmeBoo - what about the unbroken cobweb in the corner of the window?

I really enjoyed reading about the mull air mystery,FairfaxAikman into that rabbit hole good and proper!

Girl I've seen claims that he could have been in the sea and over four months rain ha washed the salt out of his clothes. However if he HAD been lying there for four months the rain wouldn't have washed his back/the ground under him surely? So I'd expect some salt to be detectable if that was the case.

It also doesn't account for no one seeing the body for four months - the West coast of scotland doesn't get that much snow lying because it's so windy - to it's not like it could have been covered over the whole time.

Just realised my original post says uninsured. That should be uninjured

@FlamingoAndJohn thank you, I was totally unaware I had this App already on my phone

I’ll have to write down some of the suggested podcasts and take a look.

@Pootle40 that’s the best laugh you’ve had all day? What a strange unjoyful life you must have.

I think the point I was trying to make was its probably best not to say that ‘we all know what happened’ and an absolute truth to accuse someone of murder, especially the Murder of their own child, when there is lots of conflicting, misleading and publicly acknowledged untruths about ‘evidence’ in such cases.

And you can say what you want ‘time and time again’ it doesn’t make it true.

@F0RESTGRUMP you’re right. That cobweb is proof the mother did it. I stand corrected. Because there is no other explanation. I’ll bow out now

@whogoncheckmeBoo I asked a question so I’m not sure where your snotty attitude came from but yes I think it’s probably best if you bow out if you’re getting so wound up and defensive.

With the Mull air mystery - might he have seen the plane was in trouble and jumped from it into a high canopy of trees to break his fall, with the plane continuing on, unpiloted until it crashed into the sea? then his body would have stayed put until it dropped to ground from the upper canopy of the tree?

You'd expect injuries though. And apart from a minor cut he had none.

Also apparently the speed of the plane at its slowest would not only make the doors another impossible to open but if you could it would be like jumping out of a car on the motorway

The Man from Taured isn't a mystery, it just never happened. It was an invented story.

It might not seem a 'normal' reaction to pretend a child's accident is murder but it seems 'natural' to me that when faced with losing their other child they would panic.

The simplest solution is often the right one.

The pineapple in the stomach is compelling.

I'm listening to a cracking podcast called Death in Ice Valley about the Isdal Woman - someone on this thread recommended it, its brilliant!

The key to the Dyatlov Pass is parachute mines, people stripping off when getting exposure and an unseen ledge.

@Brahumbug where does it say Taurad was invented?

What is strange about Jonbenet is when it first happened it was all about the intruder. The first I ever heard about the pineapple was in the CBS documentary and that changes everything. Why were her finger prints on the bowl of fruit and why were her parents adamant that she didn't eat pineapple? It's also strange that John Ramsey with all his millions and Burke - who has just won millions in a claim against CBS - have never invested their money in a private investigation to find the killer.

@dayswithaY I agree.

It's often suspicious when someone doesn't do something you would expect them to. Like when someone close to a victim doesn't ring their phone (because they already know they're dead not missing)

The same as when OJ Simpson vowed to track down the true killers of Nicole and Ron. Cue the sound of deafening silence.