Pavement parking Ban.

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How would you be affected if there was a blanket ban on all pavement parking.

I'm not just talking about the inability to get a pram or wheelchair passed but a complete ban on any car on the pavement at all.

Im just not sure who is supposed to buy and live in all these houses without driveways in places with poor transport links??

makes no sense. I did buy a house that met my needs

Why are you arguing the case for parking on pavements, and describing the house you bought that didn’t have a drive because you couldn’t afford one? How is that anecdote relevant?

or are you saying houses without pavements should only be bought by non-drivers?

Yes, or drivers who find somewhere else to park their car. Why would you buy a house, as a car owner, knowing that you’d need to obstruct the pavement in order to park by your house? That’s selfish.

Sarahinaccounts thanks but no thanks! I'd end up at the other end of her estate which is large scale. Apologies for not living in your utopian vision of an ideal world.

Im just not sure who is supposed to buy and live in all these houses without driveways in places with poor transport links??

People who work locally? Retired people? People prepared to park their car 15 minutes’ walk away? Where are all these rural places with nowhere to park cars within walking distance?

It’s banned here, no having to dodge cars on pavements and it means if someone wants a car they buy/rent somewhere with actual parking.

My parents live on a narrow-ish 60s build street where the driveways are staggered. Unless visitors park hall on and half off the pavement folk opposite can't get off their drives.

However it's possible to do this in such away that pranks and wheelchairs still have room and if not it's a rural village and safe enough to walk on the road.

People who work locally? Retired people? People prepared to park their car 15 minutes’ walk away?

What if they lose their job? Are they then expected not to gwt another outside of walking distance as that would mean buying a car?

Why do you presume retired people also don't need a car or are they expected to just do activities locally and not drive to visit relatives?

Im really not sure how many times i can repeat thr
E fact that where i live there is no parking. That means not even 2, 5 10, 15 or even an hours walk away. Im not about to post where I live but in older towns this is not uncommon.

I live in Tunbridge wells. Very long road of Victorian semis. Even with pavement parking there is only room for one car to get through. If we all parked on the road the whole town would shut down. There would be nowhere else for the thousands of cars to park within miles of the houses. I mean I agree on principal that pavements are for people as I have a buggy too, but practicalities will never work.

@Iamthewombat, news flash retired people have cars. Who would have thought it?

Where I live, for the most part there's no good reason to park on the pavement. Idiots are still idiots though.

I think the bigger effect would be on traffic. A lot of spots where two cars can pass only because the parked cars are partially on the pavement, well now it'll be wait for the oncoming traffic before going. More time idling, more fuel burned. (Unless you have an EV or a car with stop-start. I don't and can't afford).

Now if we want double yellows painted to stop that, great. Are we paying more taxes, or are we cutting another service to fund the Great 2020 Line Painting?

Why do you presume retired people also don't need a car

I don’t. You asked what sort of people would want to live in a house without parking. One group who might are retired people.

news flash retired people have cars. Who would have thought it?

Who said that they didn’t, or shouldn’t?

There’s no point being petulant and wilfully misunderstanding the argument. It doesn’t alter the basic fact that if you park on a pavement and stop pedestrians using it, you are selfish.

It’s not my problem to solve for you: you bought a house in a location with no parking and inadequate public transport. Adopting the attitude that you will carry on behaving selfishly until somebody magics up free parking out of nowhere, outside your house, is silly.

The silliness is coming from just one person.

@Iamthewombat but that's not what this discussion is about.

I specifically said in my OP

I'm not just talking about the inability to get a pram or wheelchair passed but a complete ban on any car on the pavement at all.

The silliness is coming from just one person.

Oh dear. Resorting to the ad hominem arguments as soon as you realise that you are losing the debate.

Didn’t you take against me on one of the WASPI threads? I was one of the people who didn’t support your demand to be paid backdated pension from the age of 60 at the expense of younger people.

I’m responding to other posters, OP. Is that ok with you?

I was one of the people who didn’t support your demand to be paid backdated pension from the age of 60 at the expense of younger people

Since I’ve never made such a demand, it seems highly unlikely. I don’t “take against” randoms on the Internet.

To be honest I haven't read much of what you've said since this beauty.

park your car somewhere it can be accommodated and take a cab to your house

I thought I'd read the dumbest thing on the internet a long time ago. But here you are proving me wrong.

Oh dear. Turning personal again. Can you see that it undermines any credibility you might have had?

You’ve willingly put yourself in the position of buying a house you can’t park your car at without blocking the pavement, and yet it’s everybody else’s fault. Employers for not giving you jobs two minutes’ walk away. Councils for not providing you with free parking next to your house. Transport companies for not running a special bus to your husband’s place of work at times convenient to him. Whoever planned your small town hundreds of years ago, failing to take into account your parking needs. You have brought your parking problems upon yourself and are waiting for somebody else to fix them for you which is, frankly, rather pathetic.

I don’t “take against” randoms on the Internet.

Jolly good, then you can easily stop your unfortunate habit of insulting ‘randoms on the internet’ for failing to support your practice of blocking pavements with your car.

And do you think you have any credibility after the bull you've posted?
You've given me a good laugh that's for sure.

Also. FYI I have zero parking problems. We are a two car family with a double drive.

I only posted this after watching the Tv show and I got curious because I know for some there is no other option. So

Of course there's a choice. Park further away

How far away do you suggest?

Somewhere where you aren't blocking the pavement. Blind people use their canes on the kerb as a guide. Sticking a car in front of them could cause injury. And guide dogs are left not knowing how to keep the owner safe.

So stop being so selfish.

People will have to consider that a blanket ban probably isnt the way to go.

I absolutely support some sort of legistlation that sees people penalised for blocking pavements, but banning in full would be reductive.

I agree with @Iamthewombat

I have friends that are wheelchair users and because of selfish arseholes parking on the pavement some of them can't leave their house. Some are too scared to go out in case they can't get back to their house.

Pavement parking should be banned.

We have many narrow streets woth narrow pavements. Currently the council paint parking zones half on the road, half on the pavement on one side of those streets.

Nope. You need to cut your coat according to your cloth. If your house can’t accommodate your cars without parking on the pavement, you have fewer cars, or you park the cars elsewhere, or you buy a house where you can park without blocking the pavement. This would be impossible. Rural town, many work elsewhere, lack of public transport. Nowhere else to park as all streets around are residential, many with similar parking controls.

Should we bulldoze those areas, including those with protected listings? It is very easy to say things like move, get a bike, get a different job. Sadly most people don't have a magic wand!