Pavement parking Ban.

[itsallthedramaMickiloveit]

How would you be affected if there was a blanket ban on all pavement parking.

I'm not just talking about the inability to get a pram or wheelchair passed but a complete ban on any car on the pavement at all.

@itsallthedramaMickiloveit I wouldnt even engage with ianthewombat. They do not have the understanding of what it is luke for many people.

Many people dont have the option of moving to places with a driveway but rely heavily on a car in order to work. Until the council clamp down on larger vehicles (we have an Iceland delivery truck that regularly parks in our street) then the roads will be full. Where I live you are talking in excess of £50k more to have a driveway plus all the fees associated with moving. Many people when they moved into the properties already had cars but the parking wasnt an issue, it is now and there needs to be a solution but living in a city there is no space to park anywhere else. Parking permits have proved that, parking hasn't improved as only residents were parking there anyway.

No one has suggested a workable solution, if you are just going to say dont park there then you just as well say dont walk down there. I completely object to people parking on the pavement unnecessarily and would never use parking on the pavement as an option expect in the circumstances I have mentioned where it is for safety reasons and doesnt impact pavement users as much as possible. It certainly wouldnt be out of selfishness or just to he a cunt.

Because for many their car is tied to their employment. No car no money.

It couldn’t possibly be that people who park on pavements are prioritising their own needs over everyone else’s could it? No, according to you it is all about poverty: ‘no car no money’. You must see how weak your argument is.

If you are dependent on a car for your job, live somewhere where you can park it. Or is it the job of pavement users to subsidise your lifestyle choice to live in a city terrace?

No one has suggested a workable solution, if you are just going to say dont park there then you just as well say dont walk down there.

You must see the foolishness of this statement? Don’t walk down this pavement because the cars need the space?

You will have to accept that ‘a workable solution’ is not the same as ‘a solution that meets all of your needs and allows you to do as you please’.

I've said it's exactly people prioritising their own needs.
That's exactly what it is. And there isn't anything wrong with that as long as people are within the confines of the law.

I've said it's exactly people prioritising their own needs. That's exactly what it is. And there isn't anything wrong with that as long as people are within the confines of the law.

Would you say that to @DGRossetti’s wife when she couldn’t cross the road in her chair because of selfishly-parked cars? Also, why are you so sure that blocking a pavement with your car isn’t against the law? Several posters have informed you that it is.

Let’s hear some workable solutions from you for a change. You are quick to whine that you don’t like the impact on cars and car users of a ban on on pavement parking. How do you plan to protect the needs of pavement users? Or haven’t you thought about that, because your priorities are you, you and you?

If what was happening was legal then Yea.

I've said what the solution is.

Multi bill £ nationwide redevelopment in infrastructure.

But I don't have to come up with a solution. Because right now. Everything works for me.

But I don't have to come up with a solution. Because right now. Everything works for me.

That sums you up accurately, I think.

@Changeofname79 I know. I know. You are right. Some people just can't see past their own nose and it's pointless.

Some people just can't see past their own nose and it's pointless.

Look up irony in a dictionary.

The poster who says that she doesn’t care about anyone else’s needs because “right now everything works for me” berates somebody else for “not seeing past their own nose”.

You can’t even see it, can you?

I do care about others needs.
But some things are just unworkable.

I remember a similar thread to this years ago.

Disabled access in shops.
Should be easy right?

Not when there's listed buildings. Some shops can't and never will be accessible.

Sorry, not ploughing through spats, so may have missed the obvious.

Do not ban pavement parking (some is absolutely fine, others are dreadful), instead, enforce the charge of 'obstruction'.

Job done.

@Vicbarbarkley That's what one town did on the original show I was watching.

It started a right barmy in the street lol
The councillor went around in a wheelchair and the PCSOs pushed around a buggy to test the width on the pavement.

Oh dear. So, I am awful and, because I do sometimes rely on a wheelchair I am even more so! OK.

As far as I can see the solution a local to me council has come up with is workable. People live there with wheelchairs, buggies and cars. Have done for many years.

And I do have a thought... If you rely on a wheelchair, it have a double buggy, why live somewhere that has partial pavement parking?

It is it only car owners that are obliged to make different decisions?

Just asking..........

Vicbar, exactly

And I do have a thought... If you rely on a wheelchair, it have a double buggy, why live somewhere that has partial pavement parking?

This is an ill-considered joke, right? Please say that it is.

I think that you are missing the point of the last person's comment.

It's just as stupid saying to someone that they shouldn't live somewhere where they rely on a car, but have no parking as it is to say that a wheelchair user shouldn't live somewhere where people are forced to park on the pavement due to narrow roads.

The only real options to solve this is to either

• make sure that everywhere have good public transport (including evenings and weekends)
• make designated parking bays where people can park safely and let wheelchair users safely use the pavement
• do a park and ride scheme from where people live to their cars (must include evenings and weekends)
• rebuild the entire town to make them car and pedestrian friendly
• use them as dumping grounds for those who don't have jobs and no job prospects and effectively turn them into ghettos so that there won't be cars and noone who needs one for a job (obviously there are ethical issues with this one)

Option 2 is my choice.

I live in a street that's very old and narrow. Gardens to small for a driveway . We half park on pavement but room for double pushchair to pass.
If we didn't. The nearest street that is wide enough is about 0. 8 mile away. Carrying a weeks shopping and a newborn with a toddler just isn't feasible. And is permits.

The trouble is that the councils dont do anything to alleviate parking issues.

Near me there was a large amount of land that was non residential, hundreds of parking spaces available for any overflow (taxis, work vehicles or just generally for any cars where there wasnt space late at night). This publically owned land has just been sold to developers to build 200+ flats. This land has been closed off whilst everything is in planning but it has shown us how bad the problem will be.

Prior to this in our area there was never an issue parking within a minute of the house now after 530 we struggle to get anywhere close. Fine for me as we are fit and well but some people arent.

This will just result in people parking inconsiderately when they come back early hours in the morning from night shifts etc as they do not want to walk alone in the middle of the night round an area that has many social issues.

Again safety comes into it. When I did these sorts of shifts I was lucky enough to be able to afford taxis but not everyone can. If there were times I couldnt I would double park and set my alarm for before 8am to move the car, not ideal after a night shift but better than a ticket or getting attacked whilst walking home.

I am just stunned that some people can't see why it genuinely may be a requirement until something is done to help resolve things in specific areas. If there was a more suitable place to park then great but in busy cities those places just don't exist.

Obviously it isnt ideal but it is not always people being selfish.

Our road has cars parked either side, one side on the pavement. The road would be impossible if they were fully on the road. The pavement is wide enough to take it. There's no parking near by, people would need to walk at least 10minutes to their car. It would be awful (for them, we have a drive).

I'm not sure how it would be policed.

I understand the need for a ban some roads,but it's silly to have a blanket ban.

@ CuriousaboutSamphire
Your post is vile, comparing wheelchair users with people who own cars is bizarre.
Parking is complicated, but disabled people. Can live where they like.

So can people who own cars. Logical, not vile.

New build estates near us are all built with so little off road parking yet such narrow roads it is literally impossible for cars to park fully on the road and get bin lorries through. The standards of new build estates needs to change but how the hell they're going to do it restrospectively to prevent chaos I'm not sure. Parking inconsiderately on the pavement is an issue but a blanket pavement parking ban is unworkable.

Some of these new estates are just daft. I knew someone who bought a flat with one car parking space per flat and it was in the arse end of nowhere. She could only have visitors if they parked at a pub 5 miles away and she went and fetched them and forget it if you need a community midwife visit or something. They shouldn't be building this crap.

In the long run I wish we were a less car dependent society. Private companies such as bus and property developers making lots of individual decisions that suit them isn't bringing this about.

I don't think this attitude that all people who park on pavements are meanies who just want to spite people in wheelchairs, with VI or buggies is useful.

I like of a terraced Street with parking down one side (the opposite to my house) and I do pull up on the pavement if I need to unload shopping, if I pop back in my lunch break to make a sandwich or get back late at night. Otherwise I'd could be parking 2 streets away and having to lug shopping or use most of my lunch break walking to and from the car. I don't block the whole pavement tho I leave enough room for pushchairs etc. We're moving anyway due to the parking issues to shouldn't be for much longer

Should say I live on