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Caroline Flack found dead

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LittleScottish · 15/02/2020 17:39

Poor, poor woman...

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mummaintraining19 · 16/02/2020 00:00

Such sad news...

To think of all the people who made memes, shared memes & likes the memes of Caroline flack. The media didn’t help (The Sun in particular) and they have now deleted all their abusive articles.

I’m not condoning what she had allegedly done but we are all human and we all have feelings.

Think it just reminds everyone to be kind...

mummaintraining19 · 16/02/2020 00:02

@Isitrainingihadntnoticed

I’m so sorry that this had happened to you & you felt this way. I hope you are better now. You are meant to be on this planet. Star❤️

SpanishFly · 16/02/2020 00:04

@Hadenoughofitall441 fair dos. I thought your post implied that havent lots of us done the same.

Stargazers0 · 16/02/2020 00:06

Spanishfly I think it’s too simplistic to ignore potential links.
Contestants in love island are thrown into these artificial situations. If this was a psychological experiment it would need to pass ethical tests and considerations.
Yet it’s all allowed for tv and entertainment.
And Caroline was a part of that artificial reality.
Then no doubt walked before she was pushed due to the incident with her partner.

So tragic for all.

I’m not saying that all suicides were caused by love island. But I’m saying questions should be asked. Could the show have contributed and increased their risks of suicides. And what can be done to protect people in future.

I don’t think this is simplistic at all. In fact very complex.

Rationalcat · 16/02/2020 00:09

NRFT - I only know of her from Strictly and I thought she put heart and soul into her show dance with Pasha.

Her emotions were there to see.

I'm so sorry for her family and boyfriend. I hope they are allowed to grieve in peace.

GabsAlot · 16/02/2020 00:10

i dont love islnd think its trash but i dont see the link

she was charged with assault and was due in court very soon it prob became too much for her i dont see how the program is to blame

kelpie35 · 16/02/2020 00:12

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SpanishFly · 16/02/2020 00:12

I do get your point. I just feel that 2 were contestants and one was a presenter. The contestants weren't heavily in the spotlight at the time of death. When Mike died his family confirmed he was in a bad place after the death of a family member. Sophie and her partner both killed themselves. Caroline was going through a lot in her personal life. Just because a TV show connects them all, doesn't mean it's the cause.
But yes, I agree that questions should be asked.

TrySleepingWithABrokenHeart · 16/02/2020 00:13

@Isitrainingihadntnoticed

I was in an awful place a while back. Life isn’t perfect now but I’m definitely coming through things whereas for a while I didn’t see any way through and I had thoughts similar to yours.

I had many personal issues mounting up that I couldn’t see a way out of. I was desperate. I posted on here and was given the most amazing advice and support. It’s what pushed me to go to see my GP. I hadn’t really thought to because my issues were more than just my mental health, there were many other tangible problems.

I am taking ADs now and have the support of the most amazing GP. I haven’t gone more than a few weeks without an appointment with her since back in November. I’ve had trouble accessing support from the local mental health team (for various reasons) but she has been right there to support me in the mean time.

My advice would be for you to start a thread on here. Explain your situation in full (if you are able to). I honestly think the fact I posted on here when I was in despair, saved me.

Try to remember that life is ever changing. Things will not be this way forever. Nothing is Flowers

Raindrops17 · 16/02/2020 00:29

Do some people think it would have been appropriate for Caroline to carry on tv presenting whilst awaiting her court trial? Of course she had to step down or be told to step down. They were consequences of being arrested and charged until the court case was over.

Neither Caroline or ITV said this was a permanent decision and also seemed to suggest that she would return to her role in the summer series.

Only in the last week Caroline put a post up, then quickly deleted it, about wanting to speak the truth and her and her families life is not up for entertainment. Her posts over the last few months suggest it's social media and the press that have caused her the most problems, not love island.

I think to point fingers at love island actually distracts from the bigger issue surrounding our press in its current state and social media. If anything needs axing it's Twitter. It's a vile platform with hatred aimed left right and centre at a large variety of people. I can see being in the public eye would magnify this significantly.

countrybumpkunt · 16/02/2020 00:31

Social media is the killer. Everyone can portray the perfect life via social media but hide their true life.

todayisnottuesday · 16/02/2020 00:32

She was an attentoin seeker for many years.

But I do feel sorry for the family she has left behind.

If you feel sorry for her family, why post such a nasty, spiteful comment about the person they loved?

I don't think she was an attention seeker at all (and so what if she had been?) - in fact she was the opposite. She rarely gave interviews or commented on the endless comments and judgements made by the press/ public about her private life.

Isitrainingihadntnoticed · 16/02/2020 00:35

oh my gosh guys, thank you... i actually didn't expect a response but my email pinged re; mumsnet.

its such an ugly, dark feeling but knowing Caroline also knew in her head what she wanted to do etc its goes to show it's just too common.

EachandEveryone · 16/02/2020 01:00

Its just awful. I know i shouldn't read the DM but it said she had friends around her for the past few weeks. The poor friend only popped out to the shop and she did it in that small window of time. Her poor family and friends, she was so vibrant to us all😕

NextdoorNeighbourIsATwat · 16/02/2020 01:28

She was an attentoin seeker for many years

That's the sort of phrasing that bullies use. See also 'she thinks she's somebody' and 'she's getting above her station'.

ClappyFlappy · 16/02/2020 01:36

@kelpie35 how unpleasant

ClappyFlappy · 16/02/2020 01:42

It’s awful, the poor soul x

So she may have done wrong in her life, she should have been allowed to do what people not in the public eye do and take the consequences of that and move on with her life, but the media and Twitter vultures couldn’t let that happen. It’s so sad that this presumably was the only way out she felt she had. A tragic and needless waste of a young life. I loved her so much on strictly

differentnameforthis · 16/02/2020 01:48

While I have empathy for her, feeling this was her only option, I also have empathy with her ex. Imagine how he will be feeling now, knowing that the press is blaming the court case for her suicide?

Like it or not, he has now been left with the legacy that he caused her suicide, because he reported the assault that kicked this all off. She has gaslighted him beautifully now, and he has to live with it.

So well done to some of the posters here who are blaming the press and fawning over her, because you are part of the problem. Placing the responsibility for this on the press is shifting the blame off her for what she did. I have no idea what her demons were, but this is no way a man would be fawned over like this had he been an abuser and left his victim with no justice - regardless of having dropped the charges.

HeIenaDove · 16/02/2020 02:13

If anything needs axing it's Twitter

I strongly disagree. Its partly because of Twitter and social media that the Grenfell residents have at least been partly able to control what is written about them, and make the public aware why certain people should not be part of the inquiry. Opportunities which were not available to the Hillsborough families pre social media and pre Twitter.

GrimDamnFanjo · 16/02/2020 02:14

From what I've read the CPS assault account was disputed by Caroline's partner. He also opposed the bail restrictions preventing their physical contact and was in touch with her via social media on Valentine's Day.
Nobody knows what really happened that night apart from the two of them.
I think her suicide is an absolute tragedy.

MummySharn · 16/02/2020 02:15

It’s awful, it doesn’t seem real

Happysummer2020 · 16/02/2020 02:20

Its just sad. You can analyse it to death but at the end of the day a young woman was suffering so much h she took her life and that is just tragic.

todayisnottuesday · 16/02/2020 03:43

I also have empathy with her ex. Imagine how he will be feeling now, knowing that the press is blaming the court case for her suicide?

Also, the friend who had popped out to the shop, probably her family and friends for what they think they could/ should/ would have said or done, maybe not realising how bad things had got. That's the awful thing about suicide, it doesn't just take the life of one person, it destroys the lives of those left behind as well.

Ironic really - the ones who SHOULD be taking some responsibility for what happened to her - the press and the trolls - don't and won't be, whilst the ones who loved and cared for her will undoubtedly be (wrongly) blaming themselves in some way. instead of taking a good look at their role in it, they are all pointing the finger at someone else - Dan Wootton blaming ITV, the management company blaming the CPS and so on. Cowardly. I realise that ultimately she made the decision to take her own life, but some of these people playing a part in pushing her over the edge, and they should be accountable for it too.

TheFairyCaravan · 16/02/2020 04:33

The Scum ran a story this week showing a Valentine's card that was being sold with Caroline's face in a heart with the caption "I'll fucking lamp you!" Why anyone thought to make, or buy, such a card is so far beyond me. The Scum have since pulled the story and are now pretending to be sorry that Caroline has died.

Certain parts of our press get away with far too much imo, and it's about time that something was done about it.

soberfabulous · 16/02/2020 05:22

I lost count of how many hideous threads have been allowed to stand on here picking over every single part of Harry and Meghan's lives. Despite reporting them, they've all stayed up.

The drip drip drip of vitriol all adds up. These are real people. Human beings. Poor poor Caroline and her family.