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Caroline Flack found dead

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LittleScottish · 15/02/2020 17:39

Poor, poor woman...

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SunshineCake · 15/02/2020 22:10

No we can't compare Ant etc and Caroline and he didn't nearly kill someone. He could have if he'd been going faster.

ShatnersWig · 15/02/2020 22:12

Her management team are blaming the CPS for taking her to court.

Sorry, but they were right to do so and she may have been found not guilty. Perhaps her management team should take a long hard look at themselves. Where have they been the last few weeks? If they were concerned about her, why weren't they taking better care of her?

Raindrops17 · 15/02/2020 22:15

That's a bit unfair Shatners. Would you say that about her family and friends? Why are you pointing blame at her management?

ShatnersWig · 15/02/2020 22:17

Because the CPS are doing their job. It's very unfair to blame them for someone choosing to take their own life

Coconuttt · 15/02/2020 22:25

To those saying she nearly killed him. From what I had read, he was reported to have minor injuries. There was a huge amount of blood in the bedroom, the majority of which was said to have come from Caroline.

Coconuttt · 15/02/2020 22:26

Her boyfriend disputed the CPS’s version of events and their handling of the case.

It’s possible they handled everything correctly, but we can’t discount the fact that there’s a possibility the CPS could have been in the wrong.

ShatnersWig · 15/02/2020 22:27

Actually Coconuttt the first person to say she nearly killed him was the boyfriend when he made his 999 call.

He then started backpedalling.

AngusDuck · 15/02/2020 22:28

@TeaAndWine but it’s not really comparable, especially not now. They were very different incidents with very different outcomes. Her career might have recovered had she seen the process through, we’ll never know now. And like it or not, Ant went through the legal process, received his punishment, and went to rehab. Tearing him apart won’t achieve much, unless you fancy seeing someone else being hounded to death for their mistakes?

daffodilbrain · 15/02/2020 22:28

Her suicide, any suicide, is tragic. We dont know what her demons were but I'm sure the press will elaborate in time...

The fact that the cps found enough evidence to continue the prosecution after her bf said he didn't want to press charges suggests there was a lot more to that case

The lady was troubled

Alsohuman · 15/02/2020 22:31

This is so distasteful. A woman’s dead and it’s being treated like a soap opera. The case is irrelevant now and all this speculation is just prurient. This has really brought the worst out in MN tonight.

ChicChicChicChiclana · 15/02/2020 22:32

Are we saying it is wrong to prosecute people and send them to trial incase they commit suicide beforehand?

sendhelpppppp · 15/02/2020 22:32

The case is irrelevant now

Its not though is it? Should we just put all crimes aside when people die?

I personally dont think so.

MsPepperPotts · 15/02/2020 22:33

I didn't know who she was until she did SCD and I really liked her on that and thought she came across as down to earth and really talented dancer.

I thought she would go on to do great things which by all accounts she did some great musical theatre work.

It is so sad that she could not have gotten some help/counselling after she finished SCD because she wrote/talked a few years later about her struggles with MH issues back when it finished.

It's awful to think that she thought her only way out was to take her own life and could not find peace of mind. So very sad for the loss of a young and talented woman.

Coconuttt · 15/02/2020 22:33

Actually Coconuttt the first person to say she nearly killed him was the boyfriend when he made his 999 call.

He then started backpedalling.

This may be the case, but my point is we don’t know which story of his was the truth and there is a lot of contradicting information being circulated. It’s sad that she wasn’t innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the media and the public.

Hadenoughofitall441 · 15/02/2020 22:34

What pisses me off is that how many people in the world have the same kind of argument /fight that she had with her boyfriend? Yet because she’s a celebrity they crucify her yet all over the media the same media that hung her out to dry will pay tribute to her. Yes it probably wasn’t the only reason but I guarantee it was definitely a big factor. Yes she made mistakes, don’t we all... it doesn’t mean every ones dirty laundry should be splashed all over the show. Maybe it does come with the territory but it shouldn’t, everyone is entitled to a private life.

Sofacat · 15/02/2020 22:36

The case is irrelevant now

Its not though is it? Should we just put all crimes aside when people die?

There is still the victim of the crime to consider.

JayAlfredPrufrock · 15/02/2020 22:36

RIP Caroline. Such a waste.

ShatnersWig · 15/02/2020 22:37

What pisses me off is that how many people in the world have the same kind of argument /fight that she had with her boyfriend?

Yeah, I've had loads of arguments like this one:

Ms Weiss told the court: "In the 999 call the complainant said quite clearly that his girlfriend was beating him up. He asked repeatedly for help. He was almost begging the operator to send help.

"He said: 'She is going mad, breaking stuff. I've just woken up. She's cracked my head open.'

"The defendant is calling him an ahole saying 'It's all your fault, you've ruined my life', calling him an ahole repeatedly.' He said 'you've cracked my head open'. He told the operator 'she tried to kill me mate'."

SpanishFly · 15/02/2020 22:39

Hadenoughofitall441 I've literally never hit a partner of mine. I'm not excusing the media hounding her. But I wont accept your argument that physical violence is the norm. It just isnt.

Sofacat · 15/02/2020 22:40

*Actually Coconuttt the first person to say she nearly killed him was the boyfriend when he made his 999 call.

He then started back-pedalling*

I did this exact same thing when my ex attacked and injured me. He scared me into withdrawing my statement by saying he would take my dd away .

Alsohuman · 15/02/2020 22:42

Should we just put all crimes aside when people die?

What else can we do when there’s nobody to stand trial? That poor woman was never found either innocent or guilty.

floatygoat · 15/02/2020 22:44

Nobody was there to see what really happened.

She will never have her day in court.

The woman is dead.

Speculating on her innocence/guilt seems really shitty right now.

ShatnersWig · 15/02/2020 22:45

Statement from management team: "In recent months Caroline had been under huge pressure because of an ongoing case and potential trial which has been well reported.

“The Crown Prosecution Service pursued this when they knew not only how very vulnerable Caroline was but also that the alleged victim did not support the prosecution and had disputed the CPS version of events.

“The CPS should look at themselves today and how they pursued a show trial that was not only without merit but not in the public interest."

“And ultimately resulted in significant distress to Caroline."

I think this is disingenuous and somewhat distasteful. If a battered woman didn't want to prosecute her alledged violent male partner and the CPS proceeded anyway, pretty much everyone would say they were right to do so.

GabsAlot · 15/02/2020 22:50

exactly shatner are we supposed ti let all cases drop because a victim pulls out?

Alsohuman · 15/02/2020 22:51

Speculating on her innocence/guilt seems really shitty right now

Completely agree and this precisely the sort of behaviour that contributed to her death. I honestly can’t believe the state of the human race sometimes. It makes me ashamed.

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