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Caroline Flack found dead

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LittleScottish · 15/02/2020 17:39

Poor, poor woman...

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SpaghettiSharon · 15/02/2020 20:57

I’m concerned at some of the comments on here during conclusions about the DV with some pretty ridiculous (and ignorant) presumptions.

A friend of mine suffered DV at the hands of his partner. She was tiny, he is 6ft and well built. However in one of her final attacks he did call the police because she was totally out of control, injuring him with whatever she could lay her hands on and he was concerned that (a) trying to physically stop her himself would result in an assault charge against him and (b) he wouldn’t be able to sleep/turn his back on her without fear of being hit or worse.

What do you suggest he do?

AngusDuck · 15/02/2020 20:58

relationships were fake
hates her own company

@unique1986 people like you who click on and read the shite heap rags like the Sun and the DM are a massive part of the problem. You buy into the speculation and love gossiping about it. It’s obvious.

But a young woman has died. Her life might not have been perfect, but it’s a massive loss for her family and friends and she did not deserve to be hounded to the point of taking her own life. And her family don’t deserve to have people like you speculating about it now that she is dead.

Find some better reading material.

BunnytheBee · 15/02/2020 21:01

Love isn’t isn’t on tonight

Jellykat · 15/02/2020 21:01

Very very sad news...

Her personal life was none of our business, it was her personal life.

However the foul comments she received on social media and in the press is.. we the public buy into that crap everyday.

I've seen some vile comments here on MN in the past about her, based on what? Certainly not knowing her personally thats for sure.

OrchidJewel · 15/02/2020 21:02

That poor girl and I cannot imagine if it was my daughter. Heartbroken for her parents and sister. There were vile Valentine's cards going around about her yesterday.

Paddy1234 · 15/02/2020 21:03

And no it shouldn't be on.
I hope it takes a long hard look at itself as well.

Jellykat · 15/02/2020 21:06

Think theyve absolutely made the right decision Bunnythebee

Bluntness100 · 15/02/2020 21:08

I think any one assuming that this tragic event was due to a tv show are likely very much mistaken.

Whatever caused this, it was about her private life, from her mental health to recent events.

It was clearly not due to events on a tv program.

EnidButton · 15/02/2020 21:15

Social media, (and I'm including MN in this even though I use it and like it must of the time), is toxic. The hypocrisy of people on twitter tonight is shocking, and as for the posters on a certain gossip site; if you watched the Tour de France on rewind you'd see less back peddling than what's going on on there. I'm presuming it's the same on Facebook.

No-one is to blame apparently and everyone should be kind, reach out for help...blah blah blah. Same people who were tearing her apart days ago. Same people who will go back to tearing someone else apart next week.

No one individual is responsible for another person's well being and mental health problems ultimately can't be fixed by anyone but the person themselves but god it all contributes. This constant drip of negativity, criticism and speculation that goes on. Was ever thus but heightened so much now we can see the thoughts of a million people in seconds if we want. It's got to stop.

Paddy1234 · 15/02/2020 21:16

Bluntness - I agree that it was in no part due to LI. However facts do show that three people have now taken their life associated with the program and our complete fixation with social media/platforms must be addressed.
Just reading through this thread and realising that people feel somehow they have a voice and knowledge surrounding a person.
A deeply damaged lady has died. Let her family and friends grieve in peace.

coconuttelegraph · 15/02/2020 21:18

Whatever caused this, it was about her private life, from her mental health to recent events

It was clearly not due to events on a tv program

ITA, I can't see that whatever did or didn't happen on that night was related to the programme she worked on.

It would need proper investigation and analysis to decide whether Love Island drives participants to suicide or attracts participants who have underlying issues that make suicide more likley. I've never seen it so have no idea but I am wary of making assumptions

SebandAlice · 15/02/2020 21:18

@Bluntness100
I don’t think it is about Love Island. I do think it is about the vile press coverage in the Daily Mail and forums just like this. Either way losing a family member by suicide is horrendous so let’s respect the ones left behind.

EnidButton · 15/02/2020 21:18

Not saying social media had anything to do with her death btw. It might have but obviously I don't know either way. Just observing the hypocrisy that's going on now.

I agree with this A deeply damaged lady has died. Let her family and friends grieve in peace 🌸

Noodlenosefraggle · 15/02/2020 21:22

The comments about Caroline on the Daily Mail were vile. They are being strictly moderated today.
They never moderate their comments, preferring to goad people into embellishing their own insinuations. They, and the Sun, who are apparently rapidly deleting their back issues must be worried that their baiting is going to cost them more than the usual inneffectual slap on the wrist from the PCC.

hopeidontforgetthisusername · 15/02/2020 21:23

This is all desperately sad, a woman has taken her life, how utterly lonely and full of despair she must have felt to do such a tragic thing and yet still the vultures circle, picking her over in a way that suggests they personally knew her.. Very few, myself included, will know the truth of what happpened regarding allegations that have been made. if she made mistakes then she won’t be the first to have done so but she certainly can’t make any more now as the poor woman has been hounded to death by those people who will use any attempt to take a cheap shot at someone in order to claim their own 5 minutes of fame. I hope that all those who vilified her feel a level of remorse that will ensure that they never again stoop to such levels of persecution.

Stormforecast · 15/02/2020 21:31

All comments have disappeared from articles from yesterday, last week about Caroline in the daily mail. Would they be going through it and deleting posts?

Mummyshark2018 · 15/02/2020 21:32

I am so upset and shocked to hear of her death.

I do think the recent media stuff has loads to do with it. From what I read it sounded likely that she assaulted her dp when he was asleep. If so that's deplorable and unacceptable however perhaps mitigated if there was a history of abuse from him, though unlikely, but who knows what really goes on ?

Putting a restriction on two adults where one person doesn't want to press charges and both want to be together seems heavy handed. I've known abused women who have wanted similar protection for worse circumstances and been denied. Was this a case of trying to make a point by the courts??

Regardless the loss of a life in these circumstances is horrendous and a waste of a potentially great life. Rest in peace Caroline .

TeaAndWine · 15/02/2020 21:34

Sorry if this has already been said but can we please compare the way she was treated to the way Ant was when he nearly killed someone from drink driving. I see Saturday Night Takeaway is back. He had a year off, with people clambering over themselves to say 'he'd made a mistake' and that very same year one an NTA with Dec.
Him getting hammered, getting behind the wheel, crashing and then almost seriously injuring someone, it's like it's been completely forgotten about.
She's been completely villified and torn down from a height, her career would never ever have recovered.
Just want to point that out. It's pissing me off today.

Coconuttt · 15/02/2020 21:39

There is absolutely nothing anyone can say or do now to change this terribly sad situation.

People are so quick to judge, criticise and vilify those in the public eye who are embroiled in any kind of scandal. Her boyfriend explicitly said that he was not hit over the head with a lamp at all. I’m not saying nothing happened as obviously something went on, but the truth is, despite the fact that no one actually knows the facts, she was the victim of a witch-hunt from the minute the story broke. Even if she did do something she really shouldn’t have done that night, we don’t know what her state of mind was at the time. She could have been having some sort of breakdown, we just don’t know. It’s all to easy to sit in judgement of someone without having been through the experiences that led them to that situation.

Caroline, I’m sorry that you were judged but the court of public opinion before your case had even reached court. I’m sorry that the papers hounded you, and most of all, I am so sorry that people enjoyed making you the subject of their gossip without any regard for you as a human being and for your emotional well-being.

I’m devastated for you that you felt that there was no other way out of this and I can only take comfort in the fact that you are at peace now.

I sadly lost a relative to suicide myself and it’s just devastating to hear of another life being lost so needlessly. Sending love to all who knew her.

Greysparkles · 15/02/2020 21:43

All comments have disappeared from articles from yesterday, last week about Caroline in the daily mail. Would they be going through it and deleting posts?

The DM never had the comments open on articles about CF.

Bouledeneige · 15/02/2020 21:55

I know we are not allowed to speculate. However, the police do not prosecute without sufficient evidence to satisfy the CPS - which is difficult when its one word against another. However the recording of the 999 call and any background noises or voices, blood tests, DNA and fingerprints can be used as evidence, and police wearing body cams can record the events at the scene if people are out of control or resisting arrest. All of these elements will strengthen a case and the likelihood of prosecution. And there have been suggestions that this incident was not an isolated one but that another may have been silenced with an NDA to prevent media coverage. The other person allegedly involved in those events is now being abused on social media as a result of CF's death.

And so it goes on. Further abuse and trolling doesn't do any good, nor does victim blaming. Its not just distasteful or hypocritical, its dangerous.

Tript · 15/02/2020 21:56

Paddy four if you include Sophie Gradon's partner. So unbelievably sad.

sendhelpppppp · 15/02/2020 22:02

Her boyfriend explicitly said that he was not hit over the head with a lamp at all. I’m not saying nothing happened as obviously something went on, but the truth is, despite the fact that no one actually knows the facts, she was the victim of a witch-hunt from the minute the story broke. Even if she did do something she really shouldn’t have done that night, we don’t know what her state of mind was at the time. She could have been having some sort of breakdown, we just don’t know

Her boyfriend did say that but he also told police she had done that and that she nearly killed him. Something clearly did happen or it wouldnt have been taken to court.

I dont think a breakdown is an excuse for domestic violence either.

However, regardless of what happened there i feel desperately sorry for her that she felt suicide was her only option. Nobody should feel like that and i do believe the press and social media probably pushed her to feel that way.

Its abhorrent the way that people are hounded and i know that people will say thats what you sign up for with fame but after a point it almost seems like harrassment to me.

Whats also annoyed me is that ive noticed its the same people who regularly slagged other slebs on sm that are the same people now posting "be kind" and similar. Certainly made me re evaluate some "friends".

AfterSchoolWorry · 15/02/2020 22:05

Such a dreadful waste. That poor girl. RIP 💔

Raindrops17 · 15/02/2020 22:06

Teaandwine

Ant had over a year off the tv. Went to court, rehab etc. Then returned to his career.

Sadly we will never know what the outcome for Caroline's career would have been. It was too early to tell. I don't recall ITV saying she was sacked or stepping down permanently. Of course she couldn't present a tv show with a court case outstanding, just like Ant couldn't either.