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Caroline Flack found dead

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LittleScottish · 15/02/2020 17:39

Poor, poor woman...

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todayisnottuesday · 15/02/2020 19:18

men are allowed to be victims you know

Yawn. And men AND women are allowed to be seen as innocent until proven otherwise.

bobstersmum · 15/02/2020 19:19

This has made me so sad, she was a similar age to me, I know she had her troubles but I didn't see this coming, she always seemed so happy and fun. Rip Caroline, such a sad waste of life Flowers

lilgreen · 15/02/2020 19:19

Perhaps direct your comments to the op who started the thread in the wake of a woman’s death.

lilgreen · 15/02/2020 19:20

@thetoddleratemyhomework thank you, that’s all I wanted to know.

LizzieSiddal · 15/02/2020 19:20

It's depressing to see just how many people are thick enough to believe everything the media say.

I agree but I’m not surprised. It’s how we end up with Brexit and a serial liar for PM. People are too stupid/lazy to read anything other than what’s In the Sun or the Daily Mail.

Bouledeneige · 15/02/2020 19:21

Shocking and sad news.

She always seemed a troubled soul - and living life in the media is a risk and challenge for anyone. But women are especially judged and trolled online.

To me there was a sense of slight desperation to the need to be the beautiful, partying hard, flirty, always having a boyfriend girl about town. On Kathy Burke's series CF said that she was happy being single - but how she lived her life it didn't quite look like that. But I, like any of us, know nothing of her real inner life or who she really was.

She was accused of a serious crime - lamping someone whilst they slept. A dangerous and violent crime. And we wouldn't be forgiving of a male celebrity who was similarly charged. To be accused of something like that would necessarily lead to a huge amount of self loathing and regret. And if true, such behaviour doesn't come out of nowhere. It reflects deeper problems. She wasn't yet found guilty in a court of law and no doubt some will read into her death an assumption of her guilt. Would her reputation ever have recovered - who's to know? Maybe if she had lost her career and re-built her life doing something more worthwhile she might have found a different happier way to live.

So I am sad. But reflective. We will never really know what went on and how much of her troubles came from within and how much from outside ( the media) and whether its ever going to be our preference for our daughters to choose a life in the public eye based on the approval of social media and our attractiveness.

Livelovebehappy · 15/02/2020 19:21

How utterly tragic. So so sad that a person can be so desperately low and mentally traumatised that they choose death over life.

LoveNote · 15/02/2020 19:22

@todayisnottuesday

which bit

SchadenfreudePersonified · 15/02/2020 19:22

I feel sorry for anyone who feels compelled to end their life and it seems she was a very troubled person.

At the same time she wasn't a saint and made some very poor choices.

I agree with de Rigeur.

She caused a lot of her own difficulties IMO, but at the same time she was a troubled soul whose wealth and fame seemed to bring her no joy.

I pity anyone who is in such a state.

LizzieSiddal · 15/02/2020 19:22

I hope the death of Caroline makes the “masses” wake up and stop reading the shit/gossip printed in our media on TV.

For instance Piers Morgan is hounding Meghan Markle and really should have restraining order put on him.

Oblomov20 · 15/02/2020 19:23

At first I thought it was a hoax. Then I realised it was true. Oh dear. This is very sad.

SansaSnark · 15/02/2020 19:23

Her (ex)-partner may well have been financially dependent on her. He's an ex-tennis player who wasn't that successful. Not that it really matters- the decision to leave is often complicated by lots of factors, not least the fact that he was clearly still in love with her, as he posted on social media yesterday.

GabsAlot · 15/02/2020 19:24

yes i forgot about how all trials are fair -oj the inocent simpson

Fandoozle1 · 15/02/2020 19:24

I knew of Caroline, hearing her mentioned in the media but I wasn't familiar with her programmes. Nevertheless it's sad that she felt that this was her only way out, she must have been in complete despair.
Having been in that dark place myself and having attempted to end my life (crippled by severe postnatal depressuon), the utter chaos and confusion and pain in my mind was frightening.

I really feel sorry for her and the family and friends she has left behind.

MimiLaRue · 15/02/2020 19:26

*I feel sorry for anyone who feels compelled to end their life and it seems she was a very troubled person.

At the same time she wasn't a saint and made some very poor choices*

This is exactly how I feel. Very sad for her and her family but also, she seemed extremely troubled as a person. Its really shocking though

todayisnottuesday · 15/02/2020 19:27

It’s how we end up with Brexit and a serial liar for PM. People are too stupid/lazy to read anything other than what’s In the Sun or the Daily Mail.

Quite.

But none of this excuses the people who trolled her or the papers who reported what had happened in such a sensationalised way. Until found guilty, they should have been more measured rather than put her through trial but media and they have contributed to the death of someone who was clearly fragile

This. And anyone who can twist this sad story into an 'abused men don't get taken seriously' issue is pathetic. I abhor domestic abuse, and I am a survivor of it, but I also abhor media outlets hounding a young woman to death.

Janus · 15/02/2020 19:27

It’s extremely sad.
I would like to bet she didn’t have an alcohol (or drug?) problem until she was in the constant limelight and had to sift through horrible comments on social media about her weight, love life and recent court case. Having a pop at Ant McPherlin isn’t going to make things better either. There’s that old saying ‘be kind, you never know what someone is going through’ which is very true.

SonjaMorgan · 15/02/2020 19:29

As someone who has experienced DV I can tell you that the police will find anyway possible to charge repeat offenders. My ex admitted hitting me to a police officer and from that point on I was told the charges could not be "dropped".

As for the what if it was a man discussion I think we can look at both situations separately. Is it ok to abuse a partner? No. Is it ok to bully and hound someone online? No. Who cares about the gender.

todayisnottuesday · 15/02/2020 19:30

yes i forgot about how all trials are fair -oj the inocent simpson

Lol, I had just said that I bet your next comment would be about OJ Simpson.

Predictable, lazy, facile point- not even worthy of a response.

AngusDuck · 15/02/2020 19:31

Lex Croucher has summed it up well on Twitter:

you're allowed to be shocked & sad that Caroline Flack is dead and take the abuse allegations seriously and think that the way the tabloids hound and harrass people is inhumane. you don't have to try to simplify what isn't simple.

todayisnottuesday · 15/02/2020 19:36

Not engaging in this anymore as ultimately, a young woman is dead and `I don't want to be disrespectful.

She may have been troubled, unemployed, suffering from addictions. The allegations may/ may not have been true, we'll probably now never know. But regardless, she did not deserve this, and in the eyes of the law she was innocent, so labelling her an abuser and referring to the case as fact is just wrong.

RIP Caroline, I hope you have found your peace now Flowers

thetoddleratemyhomework · 15/02/2020 19:36

@AngusDuck

I absolutely agree. That is a much shorter way of saying it than mine!!

BirdieFriendBadge · 15/02/2020 19:36

So very sad for her family. Regardless of why she did to her partner.

I personally hope this is the end of Love Island too. It's everything that's wrong with the media and social media.

Felipa · 15/02/2020 19:38

Dan Wootton is getting absolutely slated on Twitter for trashing her in the paper then tweeting sympathies.

Russellbrandshair · 15/02/2020 19:39

you're allowed to be shocked & sad that Caroline Flack is dead and take the abuse allegations seriously and think that the way the tabloids hound and harrass people is inhumane. you don't have to try to simplify what isn't simple

Yep. Wise words. Exactly how I feel.

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