Peter and Autumn Phillips have split.

[catinb0oots]

After 12 years of marriage. Very sad.

She'll be bound by the Hague convention just like anyone else. You can't take your kids away from the country they are settled in unless their other parent says you can. If you do it anyway it's kidnapping and you can lose custody and even go to prison in some places.

I also didn't know who they were but I presumed they were fearless. I've only posted because it gave me a funny giggle, what if we had threads announcing local news, "Glen died!", "Kate and John are moving!".

Its sad but not unusual I guess .The Queen has to come to terms with it .I wonder if the DM are saying, that as she saw H and M going to Canada ,then maybe it made her want to return .And presumably they must have had problems to want to split up .

Is MM on this thread?

Didn't she (Autumn) have to change religion or reject Catholicism or something along those lines to get married?

I've a vague recollection of this happening, though don't think it was 12 years ago. Going to have to look it up.

Is MM on this thread?

Yes....

@Squigean yes she did - she was RC and couldnt be if he was to keep his claim to the throne

Yes, she converted from Catholicism to C of E to preserve Peter’s place in the succession.

Doesn’t quite chime with ‘egalitarian Anne rejects titles for her kids’, does it? That place in the succession comes in quite handy when you are punting for directorships of race courses (Zara) or pretend jobs designing F1 sponsorship programmes for banks (Peter).

You know, it’s actually ok to have not heard of ‘celebrities’, royal or not. Not everyone spends time glued to the Daily Fails Column of Shame. Who cares if someone wants to post remarking on how they know nothing about Peter & Autumn Philips - scroll on if it bothers you.

I know you lose your place in the succession if you become a Catholic (as have some of the Kents) but I thought they scrapped the "can't marry a Catholic and keep your place" thing? Or perhaps that was only after Peter and Autumn married.

They should scrap that! If Peter had ascended the throne it might have been an issue but before that it is so rude.

Yes agreeing the "i dont know who they are" comments 😑👏
Im Irish, I never read Hello, I dont have a TV, I know exactly who they are.

The focus on the Queen's feelings always intrigues me (just had a glance at the Sun and DM, as you do, and this is the first thing mentioned). Surely at 90 odd and having seen the breakdown of three of her children's marriages, plus an array of other 'horribilus' things, she'll have developed some degree of resilience. She may even, possibly, have some support and PR networks around her. Are we being told how Princess Anne feels?

I get the never heard of them comments. I hadn't a clue who they were and wouldn't have known who princess Anne was if it wasn't for The Crown. It is weird to read private details about 2 people who you have never heard of.
As I never read tabloids or magazines I have a rubbish knowledge of talentless celebrities or royals and it amazes me anyone could give a fuck about these people. But I guess it's like gossip. people feel like them know them and can have a gossip.

God could you sound any more sneering? I know who they are because I know the RF family tree. I find the desperation to signal that people havent heard of them hilarious.

Yes @Squigean you are right. She had to convert to C of E as he is 15th in line to the throne.

Autumn leaves!

You don’t usually have to read tabloids or magazines to know who Princess Anne is.

I think they changed the rules about succession and marrying Catholics after Peter and Autumn were married. Possibly at the same time as they changed the rules on women being moved down the line in favour of their younger brothers?

It’s sad to see them split up. Im sure the queen is sorry to see her grandchild’s marriage break up, as anyone would.

Do the posters who come on threads like this saying “I’ve no idea who these people are” not realise that everyone just thinks they’re an attention seeking prat. Who cares who you know or don’t know. If you’re not interested then move on.

Surely at 90 odd and having seen the breakdown of three of her children's marriages, plus an array of other 'horribilus' things, she'll have developed some degree of resilience.

@redcarbluecar She is undoubtedly resilient. How many other women coming up to 94 are still working like she does, turning up in their best frock and hat and smiling when they'd rather be staying at home with their dogs?

BUT that doesn't mean she can't feel sad when yet another royal family marriage breaks up. He is her grandson after all and is supposedly devastated by the split.

‘I’ve never heard of the queen’

They were some sort of pop stars or something, weren't they?

Completely agree. In the last year she has had one grandson go effectively NC, a son involved in some very dodgy dealings and now another grandson divorce. For a woman who has put stability above everything (rightly or wrongly) this must be quite difficult for her as well as personally upsetting.

Given several of the fervent anti-Meghan types were holding up Peter and Autumn as an example of People Who Were Doing it as the Royal Family Would Expect, there’s going to be some frothing this morning

I thought theirs was a genuine love match. She didn't marry him for her own personal gain.

However wrt the milk advert. Yes, Harry, you are looking at your future. (And being grateful for the work/pay cheque.)

How is it sad, why do you care? If they're happier apart, then it's hardly sad, is it?