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Harry stepping down as a senior royal ..PART TWO

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Dowser · 10/01/2020 18:55

As I finished the last one
Only right I start the new one.
Here you go

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LordOfTheWhys · 14/01/2020 16:42

I think PP was talking about the public that pays for them just now not the ones who may buy a commemorative hoodie Hmm

I hope they do have a range of products to commemorate their decision to step down eg a statement dishcloth, some of those necklaces that split in two (one half in US colours and one half in UK), those mirrored cups with a design that looks like Windsor countryside but when you put it on the saucer a Mountie appears ...

Mummy195 · 14/01/2020 16:42

Patti

There is support for them, last night I went to amazon to look for unrelated things for my kids, and the first thing that was trending was the cookbook. Today the evening standard had to report that H&M fans have rallied, and urged pp to buy the cookbook in support. The sales are through the roof. Another win for their charities.

peridito · 14/01/2020 16:45

Oh Lord hope you've brushed up your CV and popped it off to H&M - good ideas there Grin

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 14/01/2020 16:46

I hope they do have a range of products to commemorate their decision to step down eg a statement dishcloth, some of those necklaces that split in two (one half in US colours and one half in UK), those mirrored cups with a design that looks like Windsor countryside but when you put it on the saucer a Mountie appears ...

😂😂😂

LordOfTheWhys · 14/01/2020 16:59

peridito I'm hoping for a discreet DM from one of their staff on MN Wink I'd quite like to spend half the year in Canada (in a billionaire's house) and half the year in Frogmore even if there is no expensive copper bath Sad

peridito · 14/01/2020 17:01

Grin GrinGrin

ScreamingLadySutch · 14/01/2020 17:32

Interesting article on the racist treatment of Meghan:

Did Meghan Markle appear via video link at today’s Sandringham showdown? In my head, she did. In my head, she didn’t even just “dial in”, but was beamed into the Queen’s Long Library from the Canadian waterfront mansion in which she’s sought refuge, like a Hollywood A-lister picking up an award from a provincial backwater it wasn’t worth making the trip to.

“I’m so sorry I couldn’t be with you today,” she would have begun, unleashing that expensive Hollywood dentistry. “I’m on mom duty, as you know. So if Archie suddenly needs a change, you may all just have to bear with me.” Then a slanting of the brows and widening of the eyes – the way she was told, “to emphasise sincerity”, in drama class. “But this moment means so much to me. Really.”

One would hope so. There’s little doubt it was Markle who brought about the summit in the first place. Harry, bless his cotton polo shirts, won’t even know what “progressive” means. And that the Duchess of Sussex wouldn’t make the effort (or was too cowardly) to fly in and thrash out a plan with the Queen – but was happy to fly to New York to watch her pal Serena Williams in the US Open finals when Archie was four months old – is a defining fact in a long list of facts that have defined Meghan Markle in my eyes.

Not one of those facts has anything to do with her heritage. Because, in case you’ve missed the diplomatic incident sparked by Megxit and stoked by the kind of commentators who are always ready to whip out the easiest and laziest card in the pack, it’s not Meghan’s actions that have driven out the young couple, but racism: yours and mine.

Writing in The New York Times, British author Afua Hirsch decried our “racist treatment of Meghan”, which “proved what many of us have always known: no matter how beautiful you are, whom you marry, what palaces you occupy, charities you support, how faithful you are, how much money you accumulate or what good deeds you perform, in this society racism will still follow you”.

Supplant the word “racism” for “criticism”, and Oxford-educated Hirsch is bang on. We love our royals and, like a nation of nightmare mother-in-laws, we’re overprotective and intrusive, zeroing in on every tiniest spousal misstep and capable of coddling an inexhaustive number of petty grudges at any one time.

So, yes, we sighed, snarked and snorted about silly things, like Markle closing her own car door, the fact that in six months this woman spent five times what any royal in the whole of Europe had on clothes, and various Marie-Antoinette-isms involving things like penning empowering messages on bananas for sex workers. And yes, the courtiers will also have been uniquely poisonous about all of that and more.

But as a former Hollywood actress, this can’t be Markle’s first encounter with back-stabbing and bitchery? And weren’t Camilla and Fergie put through exactly the same baptism of fire?

Remember that Saturday, when we welcomed Ms Markle into the fold? I was in the grounds of Windsor Castle. I saw the Brits who had travelled to be there celebrating the arrival of the first African-American member of the Royal family – many of them mixed-race couples (estimated to be 9 per cent of the population in the UK, as opposed to just 4.6 per cent in Wokeville, Canada, and 2 per cent in the US).

And what struck me then, as someone who has lived in the US on and off for the past decade, was how blissfully uncluttered and unpolarised we were by racial issues in comparison. How very – to coin Megxit terminology – naturally and unselfconsciously “progressive”: a thought echoed by Trevor Phillips this month, who called Britain “the only country in the world where a sizeable mixed-race population has come about as a consequence of love, rather than coercion or slavery”. It struck me, too, that we were very optimistic about a woman we knew so little about.

Over time, that optimism was eroded not by the occurrence of rapid-onset racism, but by Markle’s actions and behaviour. The capriciousness over Frogmore Cottage, Archie’s hide-and-seek christening and the ghastly press, who simply would not pander in the way that they were ordered to.

Oh, and the overt whinging about us to everyone from Pharrell Williams (“they don’t make it easy”) to Tom Bradby: “Not many people have asked if I’m OK,” she told the journalist as – in an eye-watering feat of narcissism – she managed to eclipse every cause she and her husband had gone to Africa to highlight, and make it all about her.

In toddler tantrum-style, the list goes on, ending only with yesterday’s emergency summit. So, no, Meghan: had you been blonde-haired and blue-eyed, you wouldn’t have been judged any differently. Because this isn’t racism: this is piece-of-work-ism.

ScreamingLadySutch · 14/01/2020 17:33

Oops, by Celia Walden writing for The Telegraph

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 14/01/2020 18:02

That would be Celia Walden, aka Mrs Piers Morgan 😂

PattiPrice · 14/01/2020 18:05

Hearhoovesthinkzebras It’s because of yours and other continued persistent negative ‘views’ that two people felt it necessary to get away. Busy yourself with improving your own life and let others live theirs.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 14/01/2020 18:05

I agree with every word, mind.

Roussette · 14/01/2020 18:32

Oops, by Celia Walden writing for The Telegraph

What a surprise. Not!

This is more up my street...
www.thenational.scot/news/18154312.harry-meghans-news-tells-us-modern-britain/

A level and even article.

beanaseireann · 14/01/2020 18:37

"...... not many people have asked if I'm ok."

Oh please Ms. Markle.
What about all your new fancy friends?
Did they not ask how you were doing?
If they didnt bother after you inviting them to your wedding I'd be very disappointed if I were you.

FattyCutty · 14/01/2020 21:11

beanaseireann I thought she was referring to the royal family.

peridito · 14/01/2020 21:21

I thought she was referring to interviewers .

JulietJanuary · 14/01/2020 21:48

Then again, sk are you ok and you risk offending by implying a new parent isn't coping.

I think many of us walk on eggshells over what to say.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 14/01/2020 23:59

PattiPrice

Until their announcement this week I didn't have negative views so, unless they have a crystal ball I don't think my views from today influenced their decision.

BlackCatSleeping · 15/01/2020 00:59

The court case of the Sussexes Vs the Mail on Sunday is about to start, so expect things to get even nastier in the tabloids.

I wonder if it is related to Meghans sudden move to Canada.

stellabelle · 15/01/2020 01:24

There is a lot of support for them esp outside of the UK.

Certainly true for Australia. I have read a few articles about them, and the comments are equally divided between " Who cares?" and "good luck to them !".

beanaseireann · 15/01/2020 07:27

Ah ! Ok.
peridito and FattyCutty

Dowser · 16/01/2020 10:25

It’ll be interesting to see what support Prince Andrew gets today on his official duty.
It does make me wonder how they spend their free time.
Where is he staying? Is he rattling round Frogmore on his own. Missing his baby and wife?
There would’ve been a time when he probably piled in with william and Kate and his nephews and niece but that time is long gone.
Is he spendings his time in talks..that sounds quite likely.
He doesn’t appear to have any or many friends.
Is he a golfer? A horse rider?
Is he welcome to visit his grannie and grandad?
Does he see any of the Spencer’s..he has aunts and uncles on that side of his family.
Dad is up in Scotland. Did he follow him up there?

At only 35 and not the heir to the throne ..he does seem to be a bit rootless .

This abdication crisis certainly has shone on a light on their lives in a way that they probably wish it didn’t.

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PattiPrice · 16/01/2020 10:34

TBF once children arrive, the ‘piling in’ ends for most people.

Nobody has any idea how many friends he has. Just stop with the relentless negativity.

Dowser · 16/01/2020 10:37

This makes interesting reading..the royal diary..
Without counting and between Jan 19 and Feb 13 Princess Anne does about 30 royal functions, willian and Kate do a couple, as does camilla . Surprisingly the wessexes do a few.
Nothing down for Prince Charles.
Nothing down for andrew...naturally
Nothing down for Harry..where they removed as soon as the announcement was made?

www.royal.uk/future-engagements

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Dowser · 16/01/2020 10:39

Patti
Nobody has any idea how many friends he has. Just stop with the relentless negativity.

Scuse me ..since when do I need to ask your permission to have an opinion .
This is a thread about Prince Harry you know..if you don’t like it..you can always abdicate.

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MintyMabel · 16/01/2020 10:44

It’s like she’s cut and ran and slammed the door on us as she left.

🙄

She owes "us" nothing. It is a family matter. None of our lives will be worse if they move to Canada.

Meghan..did you really mean to be so rude?

To clarify, she hasn't been rude to you, or to me, or to the British public. Leave them alone. Seriously, you need to get something in your real life to really focus on.

And yes, I really did mean to be so rude.