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Harry stepping down as a royal family member

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kittykatkitty · 08/01/2020 18:42

Just read this on their instagram page.
They plan on becoming private citizens

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BeTheRabbit · 09/01/2020 09:34

All about jealousy and a side dose of racism

Unless you can view the contents of people's hearts and motives (and you can't) that is complete conjecture on your part.

KatyCarrCan · 09/01/2020 09:35

I think the issue is that, to a certain extent, they'll never be cut loose completely because Harry is going to be the son of the King and that means he needs protection. But the more that has been revealed about how they handled this ie not telling their own staff in the UK; leaving their UK press team in the dark; not discussing the logistics with the RF and not informing the RF about the announcement - the more unedifying it all looks.
They obviously think they can use their titles and their Sussex Royal name to leverage huge salaries without taking on any of the duties and responsibilities inherent in being sixth in line to the throne.
I do hope they have both considered the tax and the custody implications of a move to North America. Like the Queen, I'm disappointed Grin . They had the potential to do good within the RF. Now it seems more likely they'll end up in a cash for access scandal like Fergie/Andrew/Edward/Sophie.

FatherRabulaConundrum · 09/01/2020 09:35

It is with your encouragement, particularly over the last few years, that we feel prepared to make this adjustment.

I think that's actually more of a snidey 'you forced us to do this with your total lack of support' double meaning. And Harry means 'the media' when he says 'you' but I don't think he fully realises how that translates to the British public.

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RowenaMud · 09/01/2020 09:39

It’s so amusing to watch people imploding with rage that they resigned, esp those who were insistent they’d never do it. Well played Harry!

KatyCarrCan · 09/01/2020 09:41

I think Meghan has been thinking about this from quite early on so it will have been a few years.

I thought it would have been good for them to take a Commonwealth posting (in the way the Queen and Prince Philip did with Malta when they were first married). It would have given them space and a role within the RF. But their stepping down statement is very focused around wanting to be mega-rich. It's surprisingly crass for a couple who want to be viewed as ethical and charitable Grin

Iamthewombat · 09/01/2020 09:42

Plenty of work in the US for organisations like UNICEF, UN etc or he could get a role in a bank.

This is a joke, right? Hasn’t he got one A level, grade E, or something? Yeah, let’s put him to work in a bank. Complex derivatives will present no challenges to the royal synapses.

GlitchStitch · 09/01/2020 09:42

It's going to be interesting to watch how this all turns out. They are likely going to be under even more scrutiny now with this halfway proposal- how much did they get paid for this endorsement/ interview etc, whilst they are still costing the tax payer xyz. Or they've just made this controversial political statement and now they are at a royal event. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at William and Kate's right now. Oh and talk about over shadowing Kate's birthday!

HowlsMovingBungalow · 09/01/2020 09:42

The only rage I have seen is from the tabloids and that twat Piers Morgan.

RowenaMud · 09/01/2020 09:44

Why let people run them out of the country and then clap their hands exclaiming it was good enough for them and so forth. They took control. Quite right.

RowenaMud · 09/01/2020 09:45

The only rage I have seen is from the tabloids and that twat Piers Morgan.

Have you read some of the posts on the multiple threads on MN. They are full of bile and personal attacks. Sickening to read.

noodlenosefraggle · 09/01/2020 09:54

It is with your encouragement, particularly over the last few years, that we feel prepared to make this adjustment.
Ha ha does that basically mean 'we hate you all, fuck off'?Grin

KatyCarrCan · 09/01/2020 09:55

I think there's quite widespread criticism. It definitely isn't just limited to the tabloids. There are monarchists who are annoyed about it because they think the announcement was disrespectful to the Queen.

And republicans who are annoyed at their assumption they can keep their titles; create a brand that obviously trades on their royal connections; ask to keep Frogmore and their royal protection; and try to make as much money as possible without scrutiny.

I don't think anyone would have cared at all if they had put out a joint statement with the Queen's support saying that they were renouncing their titles, stepping down from their royal roles, returning Frogmore and setting up the Harry & Meghan Foundation where they would work and take a salary. In fact, I think the response would have been massively supportive.

noodlenosefraggle · 09/01/2020 09:56

Have you read some of the posts on the multiple threads on MN. They are full of bile and personal attacks. Sickening to read
To be fair, I think a lot of them are started by some of the tinhat conspiracy theorists who clearly search for MM threads to hysterically say the same thing over and over on as many platforms as they can.

ThinkPositiveThoughts · 09/01/2020 09:57

If they were relinquishing all the perks of being royal, including their titles and Frogmore, I’d be applauding them for this.

But they aren’t are they? They’re just throwing two fingers up to everyone and making it clear they are just giving up the annoying bits that they don’t really like doing.

I was neutral on H&M before this- Harry seems like a harmless dope, but Meghan had done some initiatives like the cookbook and work wear stuff that were really well thought out.

This plan has meant they’ve just gone scorched earth on any goodwill they did have.

GlitchStitch · 09/01/2020 10:05

Let's not pretend they have been reluctantly driven out of their roles by the nasty public/ media. They were trademarking hoodies 6 months ago! This is all about the money.

mrscampbellblackagain · 09/01/2020 10:07

why on earth would I be jealous of them? I live a very lovely life and don't have the press stalking my every move.

And I won't even bother with the racism comment. Honestly I judge Harry way more than Meghan. He knew what she was getting into and he knows how things are done within the RF.

As I said, they should just resign properly but I suspect they will be in the press even more now going forwards.

Supersimkin2 · 09/01/2020 10:08

Have you read some of the posts on the multiple threads on MN. They are full of bile and personal attacks. Sickening to read

I've seen 0 sickening or even terribly critical. H&M get the kid glove treatment compared to the average AIBU poster.

Cacacoisfarraige · 09/01/2020 10:08

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HowlsMovingBungalow · 09/01/2020 10:08

Has there been any outcome on Meghans case against the Daily Fail yet?

I read some ridiculous blind that there is a Netflix deal in the pipeline and the RF did not approve ...

QueenMargot · 09/01/2020 10:10

Oh and talk about over shadowing Kate's birthday! > snorts <
Is Kate 6?

dayswithaY · 09/01/2020 10:11

If they do clear off to spend six months of the year in Canada or wherever does that mean we still have to pay for the staff and upkeep and utility bills at Frogmore? And for Royal protection officers to sit around in Toronto? It makes more sense that this idea has come from privileged thicko Harry who has never lived in the real world and doesn't understand how this stuff works.

diddl · 09/01/2020 10:11

I think that it does highlight what a strange situation royals are in though.

I mean currently Charles pays for both William & Harry & their families, doesn't he?

So were William to be King, would he be expected to pay for his own family & Harry's & should something happen to him, would George be expected to keep Harry?

So where does that end?

So yes, them being able to earn their own money seems a good idea & if they have nothing else but who they are, how else will they do it?

I mean Zara trades off who she is, doesn't she?

I know that she's a very accomplished horsewoman also, but that's not her only source of income, is it?

ThinkPositiveThoughts · 09/01/2020 10:12

Let's not pretend they have been reluctantly driven out of their roles by the nasty public/ media.

I don’t know, they have had a difficult time of it the last number of months. Some of it may be self inflicted perhaps, but there was an underlying tone of anti Americanism and racism from some outlets.

However, that doesn’t mean that you need to take the route they’ve chosen. At the very least they should have taken the advice from literally any PR professional, or I don’t know, maybe speak to your family before making any huge and irreversible decisions that directly impact all of you?

Some of their decisions over the last few months, including the documentary and the announcement in South Africa seem unconsidered and irrational. This is a step even further.

mrscampbellblackagain · 09/01/2020 10:15

It will be fun to see what clothes Meghan wears now as she can have loads of designers dressing her for free [shallow]

GlitchStitch · 09/01/2020 10:17

Is Kate 6?

No but I'm starting to suspect Harry might be!

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