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How can this news story be right (Aiya Napa rape allegation)?

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ThePeckOfPickledPeppersPeterPi · 30/12/2019 09:59

I just cannot understand how a young, vulnerable woman can be treated this way by police and the court. Whatever the uncertainties, it just seems so wrong that she has been held, kept in prison, kept from family, while twelve potential rapists have been allowed home.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-50945206

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Stuckandsadintheupsidedown · 30/12/2019 10:04

We need to bring her home ASAP. All these politicians have been posturing for months trying to get into power while this poor girl must be in hell.
She's needs safety in the UK

MumofTinies · 30/12/2019 10:06

I don't know why I'm surprised at these judgements anymore. That poor woman.

Soffy · 30/12/2019 10:07

She could be a victim. She could also have lied as they have said. How do you know which it is? I haven't read anything that provides an answer either way.

TheQueef · 30/12/2019 10:08

I don't understand how she's found guilty. Poor bugger I bet she's terrified.

ohwheniknow · 30/12/2019 10:11

I don't know why this surprises anyone. Have you not previously noticed what happens to rape victims?

Loughers · 30/12/2019 10:15

Typical little England mentality on MN - it happened abroad and we all know those "foreigners" don't play by our rules....justice only gets meted out in England apparently...

Not a though for those twelve young men whose lives have been turned upside down - and whose lives could potentially have been destroyed.

Some of the evidence presented to support her case is downright laughable - the lads "looked like they were ready - all of them to have sex with her that night."

Sweet Jesus...

Pathetic...

coconuttelegraph · 30/12/2019 10:40

She could be a victim. She could also have lied as they have said. How do you know which it is? I haven't read anything that provides an answer either way

That sums it up really, we can''t know, should we automatically assume that a foreign court isn't able to come to the right decision? From what I've heard their laws are different to ours but visitors to the country still have to abide by them. On a personal level of course it's a hideous ordeal for anyone but I'm not going to jump to any conclusions.

Festivecheeseandcrackers · 30/12/2019 10:49

Some of the evidence presented to support her case is downright laughable - the lads "looked like they were ready - all of them to have sex with her that night."

While I agree with you that what has been reported of the evidence is laughable, it works both ways. Apparently the woman didn’t act the way she should have after being raped as well. Hmm

I don’t think there’s enough information out there on this to judge guilt or not, but something doesn’t sit quite right with me about the whole thing.

Festivecheeseandcrackers · 30/12/2019 10:53

I’m not sure how to post a link so this may not work but I find the information here incredibly upsetting.

cyprus-mail.com/2019/12/03/british-teenager-details-to-court-her-rape-by-israeli-tourists/

ThePeckOfPickledPeppersPeterPi · 30/12/2019 11:03

If this had happened in an English court, we'd be saying just the same. English courts are just as misogynistic in many cases. Those who are saying this is about nationality/"little Englanders" are showing only that this is their interpretative bias.

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slipperywhensparticus · 30/12/2019 11:07

So, there is film evidence of her being raped by at least three but they say it must have been consensual the statement withdrawing the allegations is written in pidgion english and she says it wasnt hers the judge said he is not there to decide if she was raped or not just to decide if she lied and he has decided she lied

ThePeckOfPickledPeppersPeterPi · 30/12/2019 11:08

Twelve men were (by witness accounts) preparing to take one line woman to their room and have sex with her. Even if it was fully "consensual", the power balance is pretty awful, and her subsequent reaction (PTSD) should be understood and she should be taken care of.

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ThePeckOfPickledPeppersPeterPi · 30/12/2019 11:08

*lone woman

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sakura06 · 30/12/2019 11:13

This decision makes me so angry. Just unspeakably angry.

Devereux1 · 30/12/2019 11:15

Twelve men were (by witness accounts) preparing to take one line woman to their room and have sex with her. Even if it was fully "consensual", the power balance is pretty awful

According to the logic of that statement, one woman (by witness accounts) prepared to have sex one by one with a line of twelve men.

Even if it was fully "consensual, the power balance is pretty awful

If it was fully consensual, there is no legal issue. Could be plenty of moral ones on both sides, but no legal ones. Which power balance is so awful, if it was fully consensual? Theirs or hers?

I haven't seen all the evidence, has anyone here? We simply don't know what happened.

Doyoumind · 30/12/2019 11:16

I posted about this at the time it happened saying she was being treated terribly but MN deleted the thread as it was speculation about a live case.

I hope this goes further and she gets some kind of justice, even if it's just having her name cleared. I don't think anything will ever happen to the men.

ThePeckOfPickledPeppersPeterPi · 30/12/2019 11:19

I haven't seen all the evidence, has anyone here? We simply don't know what happened.

It's true - no one (apart from the individuals involved) knows what happened. But from what I do know, the bias in treatment and judgment looks, yet AGAIN, to be heavily against a vulnerable woman who may have been assaulted, and in favour of potentially abusive men.

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Doyoumind · 30/12/2019 11:24

She didn't have a lawyer present when she was being questioned. That's not right. Whatever happened, can people not see that's not right instead of saying "We don't know what happened"?

Devereux1 · 30/12/2019 11:25

But from what I do know, the bias in treatment and judgment looks, yet AGAIN, to be heavily against a vulnerable woman who may have been assaulted, and in favour of potentially abusive men.

I haven't followed this case carefully as so much seemed to be conjecture. What bias in treatment and judgment was done against her and in favour of the accused?

ChloeDecker · 30/12/2019 11:26

The video was out in the public domain before it got pulled by the Cypriot courts because it was evidence. She was waving and smiling at the camera during the event, which was captured entirely.

gypsywater · 30/12/2019 12:15

@ChloeDecker reportedly....

slipperywhensparticus · 30/12/2019 13:03

How can she wave and smile when he was kneeling on her shoulders?

Soffy · 01/01/2020 13:18

@ChloeDecker. How do you know that about the video?

Feminazgul · 01/01/2020 13:20

I believe her

Fraggling · 01/01/2020 13:24

'Not a though for those twelve young men whose lives have been turned upside down - and whose lives could potentially have been destroyed.'

You mean the one who chanted and danced at the airport while cheered on by s crowd of people popping champagne open?

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