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How can this news story be right (Aiya Napa rape allegation)?

148 replies

ThePeckOfPickledPeppersPeterPi · 30/12/2019 09:59

I just cannot understand how a young, vulnerable woman can be treated this way by police and the court. Whatever the uncertainties, it just seems so wrong that she has been held, kept in prison, kept from family, while twelve potential rapists have been allowed home.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-50945206

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fishonabicycle · 07/01/2020 20:05

I'm actually really upset by the responses on this thread. That poor girl.

M0nstermunch · 07/01/2020 20:08

I believe her, poor girl. Just hope she gets the help she needs now!

lljkk · 07/01/2020 20:14

I don't know about rape allegations. I can't know.
But I do think men who line up to have sex with a single woman like that are barbarians. No matter if she's consenting or well paid or very happy at the end. It's just GROSS.

Devereux1 · 07/01/2020 20:15

But I do think men who line up to have sex with a single woman like that are barbarians. No matter if she's consenting or well paid or very happy at the end. It's just GROSS.

In this scenario you write of, if the act is gross, isn't it gross of everyone involved then?

AutumnCrow · 07/01/2020 20:18

A believe her, and that she did not consent to have sex with anyone other than the man she thought was her boyfriend. I believe that she was filmed against her will also.

SnorkMaiden81 · 07/01/2020 20:22

I'm tracking her flight back now on Flightradar24. She's just going into airspace over Croatia.
The feeling of relief on that plane must be palpable. She'll need a lot of support once home.

lljkk · 07/01/2020 20:26

I'm not accusing her of anything b/c her story is disputed. Separate is what the blokes fully admit to. If I knew any of those blokes personally, I could park the rape allegation as murky information, but their acknowledged behaviour can't be anything but disgusting behaviour.

it reminds me of those electrocution psychology experiments, where I hope I would refuse to participate at all no matter what money I was offered to electrocute someone else (or they said they were being paid as part of the 'experiment'). Sometimes you should stop, and say "NO way this can be ok." no matter what the others around you are doing or think is acceptable.

macaroniandpizza · 07/01/2020 20:30

I believe her. Nothing else to say other than that. She went though a horrific ordeal and has basically had the courts tell her shes a silly liar 🤬 makes me sad that she didnt get a better outcome

AutumnCrow · 07/01/2020 20:30

@SnorkMaiden81 what's her flight number? I'd like see it land. Sort of symbolic.

NamechangeforTransStuff · 07/01/2020 20:32

Some women do. I have one friend who at a festival made a bet with another girl as to who could have sex with the most men in one night. They both scored above 12 that night.

#idontbelieveyou

Devereux1 · 07/01/2020 20:34

ljkk
I'm not accusing her of anything b/c her story is disputed. Separate is what the blokes fully admit to.

Yes, I know that. But you also wrote No matter if she's consenting or well paid or very happy at the end. It's just GROSS. So like I said, in one of those scenarios, if it's gross, surely everyone involved is gross?

SnorkMaiden81 · 07/01/2020 20:36

BA663 Larnaca to Heathrow

Mintjulia · 07/01/2020 20:43

I believe her.

If the Cypriot govt think allowing her home is going to win back my tourist money, they couldn't be more wrong.

Cyprus has shown itself to be a fundamentally misogynistic society, with no effective justice system. It is rotten to the core.

It's not safe and there should be a British Foreign Office warning that women should not to risk going there.

AutumnCrow · 07/01/2020 20:44

Thanks, Snork.

ThatsWotSheSaid · 07/01/2020 20:47

I believe her

Hatetheendof · 07/01/2020 20:57

Why are posters following her flight home? Bit odd

MrsPMT · 07/01/2020 21:02

I believe her

TheAzzzeeee · 07/01/2020 21:05

If organisations had any balls they would boycott the Greek part of Cyprus and also any airline, holiday firm that deals with them.. But most people in this country (sadly) don't have enough integrity

Patroclus · 07/01/2020 21:05

Large numbers of both, Hatetheendof. I'll try find the video I saw earlier.

MrsPMT · 07/01/2020 21:12

Can we make this into a huge thread saying "I believe her" or should we start a new one to do that? And to ask for no debate, just post if you do and please just ignore if you don't?

LotteLupin · 07/01/2020 21:21

Nobody has been able to dispute that she was a teenage girl in a room with several young men and a lot of them had sex with her. Even if she had invited it (which I highly doubt), it still would have been an act practically tantamount to self-harm. No decent boy would have joined in. Where was the respect? Even if she was begging them, they should have refused.

But they filmed it.

The issue here is a massive cultural one. The underlying Greek attitude towards British teenage girls off on drinking holidays in the sun. There is no way on Planet Earth that a Greek daughter would be allowed to do this. She would be brought up to abhor such behaviour. So when they see other girls do it - in the extreme way that many British teenage girls do - the drinking, the drug use and the simple fact that these girls have been allowed by their parents to go on such a holiday - all respect is lost.

It is dreadfully sad and absolutely traumatic even as a total stranger to hear about what has happened to this poor girl. She is such a baby, and this is beyond awful. The treatment of her has been truly appalling. She is damaged for life. But money is underneath it all. Israel is 20 odd miles from Cyprus. It's a massive source of tourists. Cyprus can't lose the Israeli business. And the Brits will always come. The kids will defy their parents and still flock to the Mecca of decadence that is Aghia Napa. So Cyprus had to appease the Israelis, and it wasn't a hard decision, as everyone has such a low opinion of British teens abroad, and the British parents that fund then and let them go.

I just hope this poor girl can now be restored, can be helped back in our kind and decent country. I love the fact that Britain is such a warm and understanding place. We should actually be proud of the fact that we would never ever ever have treated a foreign teenage girl in this way. I just don't believe we would have.

Thankfully Cyprus saw sense and has released her. But the charge of lying should never have been brought. It was a disgrace.

LotteLupin · 07/01/2020 21:24

There's no question of not believing her. Did you see the evidence of the number of bruises she sustained?

SeaWitchly · 07/01/2020 21:25

Whatever happened those men are absolutely disgusting. They are either rapists or men of very low morals and sense who believe it is acceptable for 12 men to all have sex, one after another, with a lone teenager Hmm

SeaWitchly · 07/01/2020 21:26

I believe her too by the way. But either way those men are scum.

CallmeAngelina · 07/01/2020 21:46

I'm not defending those men at all, but I understood that there was only evidence of 3 of them as having had sex with her.

I believe her.