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David Baddiels comment about Corbyn

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Minionoftheantichrist · 20/11/2019 11:14

I’ve looked for a thread about this but can’t see one.
David Baddiel picked up that on the leaders debate Corbyn pronounced Epstein in a way that made it sound more Jewish ie Epshteen as opposed to Epsteen. He said every Jew will have noticed this and that it’s another example of Corbyns antisemitism.

I’m Jewish. I’m no fan of Corbyn but really hadn’t noticed this and even now David Baddiel has pointed it out, am struggling to see this as an example of antisemitism. Am I missing something here? Is this antisemitic?

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12345kbm · 20/11/2019 22:41

Can I sell you some magic beans?

Halleli · 20/11/2019 22:42

@DuchessMustard

If you get the chance, I would highly recommend going for Yom HaShoah, Yom HaZikaron and Yom Ha’atzmaut.

The transition from grief to celebration just encapsulates the country for me - I’ve never felt so connected to Israel as I have spending those days there.

Plus, it’s in April/May so not absolute peak summer heat!

DuchessMustard · 20/11/2019 22:44

@Halleli thank you. My friend has a 'granny flat' that she rents out on AirBnB so I'm sure we could stay there. I know I should go sooner or later.

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12345kbm · 20/11/2019 22:58

@MonnaLIza I love you.

DuchessMustard · 20/11/2019 23:09

@MonnaLIza I appreciate you making your real agenda so clear, now that your attempt to pretend to know how 'cosmopolitan' Jewish people in London actually speak has failed so embarrassingly.

It was already obvious to 99% of people what your real agenda is, but thanks for clarifying it for the remaining 1%. You must be very pleased with yourself.

Because nothing is more hilarious than taunting & gaslighting ethnic minorities, is it. What passes for fun these days in the Labour Party, eh. Congratufuckinglations.

DuchessMustard · 20/11/2019 23:10

@Halleli a pretty clear case in point!

MonnaLIza · 20/11/2019 23:17

I am actually Italian Jewish, darling. My unmarried surname is Coin.
Buonanotte & shalom x

MonnaLIza · 20/11/2019 23:17

I meant my maiden name, starting to be tired now.

DuchessMustard · 20/11/2019 23:22

@MonnaLIza How very sad then that, coming from that background, that you (a) talk complete bollocks about how famous people's names are pronounced, (b) actively support a party that is institutionally antisemitic, & (c) think that lying, mocking & taunting Jewish people for pointing out antisemitism is hilarious.

How tragic that the lessons of history are lost so profoundly & so quickly. Have you read Primo Levi?

None of us think this is funny. None. You are funding people who want your family dead. Why is that something to laugh about?

MonnaLIza · 20/11/2019 23:26

Now@DuchessMustard don't you fucking dare. My grandfather's older brother has been executed by the FASCISTS in 1942 and he, like my grandfather, was in the resistance. The left has always supported and helped us. You cannot rewrite history. This is our history.

12345kbm · 20/11/2019 23:33

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thetwinkletoescollective · 20/11/2019 23:33

Absolutely this is not about a name. It’s not about the pronunciation.

It is about the intention behind it.
We have a few choices since we are not in his head or heart.

  1. He has missed all the news coverage and doesn’t know how to say it.
  2. He wanted to say it in a particular way because he is one of those annoying people who wants to say things with an accent.
  3. He wants to imply that Epstein is Jewish ergo Jewish people are not to be trusted.

To conclude he is either ill-informed, arrogant or dangerously anti-Semitic.

Hmmmm

MonnaLIza · 20/11/2019 23:37

And to give a final response:

(a) talk complete bollocks about how famous people's names are pronounced, EVERYONE in my milieu of London-South East pronounces Epstein the German way. Maybe YOU talk bollocks?

(b) actively support a party that is institutionally antisemitic - the historical jury, my friend is open on that one. I think the Tories historically are way more antisemitic than Labour.

& (c) think that lying, mocking & taunting Jewish people for pointing out antisemitism is hilarious. What? Where do i mock and taunt? Am I not entitled to spend my own money the way I wish? I thought as a Tory you were in favour of private property, eh?

TheVanguardSix · 20/11/2019 23:39

It is technically Ep-Shtine if you wish to split hairs.
German Jewish here.

MonnaLIza · 20/11/2019 23:39

@12345kbm - you are a star :)

There is this group that I am also thinking of joining:
www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk

DuchessMustard · 20/11/2019 23:43

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12345kbm · 20/11/2019 23:44

@MonnaLIza You are a star too in a very dark place. It just goes to show how low some people will sink because they feel threatened and what people will believe. Don't worry, people see through it. We just need to keep the faith.

DuchessMustard · 20/11/2019 23:44

Oh, and I'm not a Tory. I have never voted Conservative and never will. I was an active labour party member until I was driven out by vicious anti-semites.

Your gloating is glaringly obvious & very ugly.

DuchessMustard · 20/11/2019 23:45

@12345kbm yes, well done for noticing that Jewish people feel threatened by vicious antisemitism. Not really that surprising, is it.

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Bitchwood · 20/11/2019 23:53

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