Prince Andrews slip ups

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he said LOADS of things during that interview, where he was telling the truth, and forgetting his lie.

the only one I can remember now though is when talking about visiting JE house in (Bahamas?? not the NY one anyway). a witness had said he went 4 times a year. He said something like; 'you have to understand, when you go into one of those places...'

that's not how you talk about a friend's house. what are 'those places'?

surely WE private the queen's 'private funds' also?. I would really prefer NOT to be paying any contribution to the £250k for keeping a suspected paedophile in his lavish lifestyle.
I would rather be paying for his board and keep via prison, where he potentially belongs

I would love to have been a fly on the wall at Buck House the last few days. He must have been read the riot act to have u-turned so spectacularly, especially when he apparently thought the Newsnight interview had been a success. The statement actually contradicts that interview - he didn’t say he regretted the association with Epstein, he said it had been useful in terms of business contacts. And it stated that he would “of course” cooperate with the authorities, rather than all the sputtering about legal advice that we heard on Saturday. The statement was obviously written for him, and I bet behind the scenes he is raging about being hard done by.

It’s clear that PA had zero reserves of goodwill to fall back on - no one ever had a good word to say about him, all the stories were that he was a pompous, unpleasant, rude and extremely stupid man, so when the shit hit the fan no one was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I hope the royal protection officers are withdrawn (I believe those costs are picked up by the taxpayer?) - after all, that’s what they did with Diana.

Re Beatrice: I believe her fiancé is actually British (born, brought up and educated here), but with some kind of ancestral estate in Italy. Presumably she could get married quietly and privately there. I hope he is not a cad, or he might be tempted to do a runner. Eugenie’s wedding should never have been a public one - that was all down to PA’s vanity.

To be fair senior royals can't earn for themselves, their job is to do engagements, they can't go to work like normal people.

He also needs to keep police protection as he is a target.

He's a target now, Bluntness, yes.

Remember that paediatrician who's house was surrounded by vigilantes who thought they'd caught themselves a nonce?

People think PA is guilty by association - that's going to be socially awkward, at the very, very best. He's not going to go anywhere for the pitchfork waving crowds.

I have to say it's nice to see someone come undone through their own greed and arrogance.

If he’s not doing public duties, I would suggest he pays for his protection out of his own wealth.

Remember that paediatrician who's house was surrounded by vigilantes who thought they'd caught themselves a nonce?

Really not even the same thing by a long stretch

What sort of education did PA get? Does he have any qualifications?

Great to hear that he won't be getting any more money from the Sovereign Grant.

He’s never had any money from the Sovereign Grant, the Queen pays his expenses from Duchy of Lancaster funds.

An expensive one!

l think he went to Gordonstoun and then naval college before entering the navy. So he probably has A levels. And was in the navy for a few years.

Gordonstoun isnt (or certainly wasn't when he was there) known for being one of the most academic schools.

So we still pay for his protection
Not happy about that
If he’s not doing public duties why should we

If they think this is the end of it
They are wrong

I hope the royal protection officers are withdrawn (I believe those costs are picked up by the taxpayer?) - after all, that’s what they did with Diana

the royal protection officers need investigating, for covering this up for years

he should have to claim UC then, if he is unable to get a normal job

he needs to stand trial for these accusations doesn't he, then he avoids the supposed vigilante response

I also love the tiny details

Watch the contempt on his face when he explains why for him a pizza express visit to Woking was memorable (the disdain for the ordinariness of that place, do so far beneath him)

Glad he is getting his comeuppance, he embodies the meaning of entitlement.

guilty, go to prison. not found guilty, continue to live a life of luxury at our expense

He could sell his £13m chalet in Verbier if he is strapped for cash. But I don’t think he is, somehow.

Eugenie’s wedding should never have been a public one - that was all down to PA’s vanity.

But I never understood the thinking on this in that Eugenie and Beatrice are every bit 'Princesses of the blood' as William and Harry are Princes of the blood. On that basis (and I'm not saying I agree with it) why should their weddings be 'lesser' than say Harry's? After all why was Harry given a hugely expensive wedding? His Brother had married with 3 heirs by then. Are Princesses less important than Princes?

So in that sense I do see PA point (if one puts aside the ridiculousness of it all).

I have to say it's nice to see someone come undone through their own greed and arrogance

Agree it's nice to see some justice although he's still being protected. British police deferring and refusing to question him. How ridiculous and wrong is that? If any of us slept with a sex trafficking victim in England we'd be being questioned and then charged if we couldn't account for our whereabouts.

That said I always find it sad when people fall because of their own actions, all humans have weaknesses and to be fair to PA he lived and was brought up in an environment where he didn't have to be better. He was probably never disciplined or brought to heel for his behaviour (although one would have thought the Army would give him a bit of discipline? A sense of not being better or superior to your fellow fighting men? The need to protect others?) So he's lost the inner fight of goodness, but I would put the blame at his parents door. It does seem that the RF invest far more effort into the first-borns and leave the rest to chance.

I don't know Pickle but I think times and attitudes have changed tremendously since 1990 when I was at school.in the 80,s it wasent unusual for young girls to be picked up from school by their " older boyfriends " in cars these men would have been late teen,s early 20,s and the girls 14,15 and people didn't bother too much about it .

I remember this when I was at school! I was having hand baths (paraffin wax) put on my hand after a skin grafting at hospital. A guy also there asked me out fot a drik. I was a bit shocked. He was old - you know around 30 -40!!! I was about 16. He said a lot of girls from my school went to that bar and it was ok. Not for me it wasn't and anyway what would I have spoken to an 'old' man about? Mortgages? Pensions??!!!!

The public interest was considerably less for a start - which is why we had the spectacle of PA trying to flog it to the BBC and then having to settle for low-key coverage on This Morning (whereas Harry’s had huge international interest and TV coverage).
But it’s not my thing at all.
Beatrice and Eugenie were always going to be minor royals who would go down the line of succession, and it is PA’s choice that they have Princess titles when they could have gone down the Princess Anne route and not had titles for their children.

But I never understood the thinking on this in that Eugenie and Beatrice are every bit 'Princesses of the blood' as William and Harry are Princes of the blood. On that basis (and I'm not saying I agree with it) why should their weddings be 'lesser' than say Harry's?

Therein lies the whole problem with the monarchy. Nothing about them makes any sense. They are not good role models and most of them aren't very bright either. Catherine is probably the most academic - her A level results outstrip all theirs including her husbands.

It still boils down to the fact that we are supposed to bow and scrape to people because of what vagina they came out of.

He could sell his £13m chalet in Verbier if he is strapped for cash

To another Kazakh oligarch perhaps, and for much more than it's worth?

Amusing that they expect anyone to believe he's been stripped of his £250k from the Queen; if it comes from the privy purse (and privy means private) how can we possibly know?

@Bluntness100 has got it right, there's an awful lot the press are aware of that they can't publish.

Yes his finances could probably do with a closer look. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a trail of kickbacks from dodgy oligarchs garnered under the guise of his trade envoy role.