Would you vote Labour if you earned over £80,000?

[NoMansGE]

When doing more research on labours tax policies DH and I noticed that this starts from salaries of £80,000. This would effect our household as that is DHs salary. We both agree with their campaign for 'no more billionaires'.. but we aren't billionaires. We are a normal family who live a comfortable but far from luxury lifestyle. We're both torn how to vote, as it would usually be labour.

One does not excuse the other - but why does JC get more vitriol in the press when he’s not the actual prime minister?

Because Corbyn wants to become prime minister in a few weeks and his supposedly anti-racist party is stuffed to the gills with racists.

That’s why.

My DH earns considerably more than that. I no longer do paid work. We have both always voted Labour. Both of us think that we should vote for the greater good of the country rather than personal financial gain. That being said I won’t be voting Labour this time because I am very concerned about the apparent acceptance of anti-semitism within the party.

Earn comfortable six figures and voting Labour.

You do have to be extremely rich to be able to afford to vote Labour - it’s too expensive for most people!

@cendrillion
Sorry, the Tory Party has far more racists overall than Labour does. And Alexander Boris Johnson, who I believe wants to be reelected as PM, has absolutely terrible form in the racism department.

I may not agree with everything Labour says but the country needs more public services, urgently. Less conservaties trying just to make money, more people thinking of the society, not just themselves.

I am happy to pay a bit more tax and get DD a decent state education, good hospitals and infracstructure.

Sorry, the Tory Party has far more racists overall than Labour does.

Tell that to Jewish voters who have taken to literally begging the public not to put Corbyn’s antisemitic party in power!

@CendrillonSings
Too expensive for the country NOT to vote Labour. I think people have had enough of real living standards falling while the richest 0.1 % hoover up an ever expanding piece of the pie. A decent, fairer society is a happier, more content and peaceful one.

• So for £4 odd a week in tax you’d not progress your career?

If this is the case what happens in countries where there is much higher tax? Do these countries stagnate and have people not progressing?*

There's a tipping point for everyone. If you're on the cusp of even more tax it will encourage evaluation of your circumstances and the output that's required. For salaries way above this, £4.00 a week is negligible.

There's a reason there are huge expat communities in tax-free and tax-light countries.

I know people who are high £90k earners who actively push against tipping over into £100k+ due to the punitive taxation at that level.

It's counter-productive in a society where we are desperately in need of incremental public funding through taxation. We need a govt that will encourage high earning, not tax it to death.

Funny, if the poor vote Labour, it’s envy. If the rich vote Labour it’s because they’re champagne socialists or whatever. I tire of rightwing bullshit, I really do!

1. I wouldn’t vote labour in this election, regardless of what I earned.

2. it won’t make a huge financial difference to you if you’re not far over the threshold

3. I believe we should all vote for what we believe is best for the country, rather than focused on self-interest.

4. I strongly disagree with Labour at the moment, but I’d nevertheless encourage you to vote for them is this is your only reason not to.

A decent, fairer society is a happier, more content and peaceful one.

By all means, write the government a huge cheque - they won’t turn it down! You’re part of the 1%, why don’t you set an example if you’ve got so much spare cash?

If the rich vote Labour it’s because they’re champagne socialists or whatever. I tire of rightwing bullshit, I really do!

The truth hurts, I see!

@AlphaBravoCharlieDelta
Well, enjoy the coming Tory birthed recession then. It’s going to be a humdinger, I promise you. And in another few years when the classrooms need to be rebuilt having been left in disrepair for so long, and the NHS needs to be privatised, and your kid’s rents are 1.5 the ge mortgage I think you’ll find a few percent on the top 5% of earners in the country might actually have been a price worth paying for living in one of the most civilized and developed countries on the planet.

So show me the countries where high tax is counter productive

To all those saying that they don’t mind paying more tax.... what are you waiting for. It shouldn’t need a government to force you to do so.

@CendrillonSings
I don’t believe in charity. I believe in people paying a fair share and paying back to the great affluent society which educated and enabled them to succeed. There are plenty of people who feel the same. Sadly it seems you believe peoples’ moral values begin and end at their bank balance. Is this 21st century Britain? It is certainly a very Tory outlook but not one I identify with.

Strange that BJ would personally choose people like Priti Patel, Sajid Javid, Alok Sharma, Kwasi Kwarteng, Rishi Sunak, James Cleverly, and Nadhim Zahawi for top jobs if he is as racist as you say Cam77

@sunglasses123
You would be surprised that many people such as myself who would vote for higher taxation often do already contribute to charity(ies). Or contribute their time to volunteer work. You might be shocked to learn that people are not selfish bastards by nature. That may be the lens through which you see the world, but it certainly isn’t objective reality.

@Moonmelodies
Ah, the “my mate” defence:

“But I was just kidding when I said that! I’m not racist, honest! Look, my mate from school was black and my postman is from Asia!”

As a family we earn significantly more than that and I would vote Labour. I’m not a Corbynista in the slightest bit I vote for the party not the leader. This isn’t America after all.

I’m happy to pay more tax if it helps level the growing poverty and inequality in this Country. I fully accept how privileged we are in relative terms and If additional taxes means assisting the NHS or helping those that need urgent assistance from our welfare system I’m happy to pay it.

I don't understand why people keep commenting about normal families, with normal jobs bringing home 80k p/a aka over 4.5 grand a month. That's almost four months wages to some full time workers. There is nothing normal or average about that. Do you genuinely not see how privileged you are?

What many people forget is that £80k plus salaries often involve 60-70 hour weeks at great personal and family cost. There would come a point whereby many people would think the trade off to their work/life balance was just not worth it

Tell that to the hundreds of care workers, nurses, paramedics, police officers and firefighters who regularly put in similar hours for, in some cases, a quarter of the reward.

I have no doubt that people on 80k worked hard to get where they are and they work hard to stay where they are but they shouldn't for one second believe they are where they are because they worked harder than the people below them,

99.99% of people on wages at 80k or above started from a position of relative privilege that many people could only dream of. They are where they are through a mixture of a privileged upbringing, natural aptitude, dumb luck and hard work.

I'm not on 80k. I do regularly put in 50-60 hours a week. I don't get anything close to four and half thousand pounds a month for my efforts but I hope if I ever am on 80k I won't break out in a cold sweat at the idea of paying £20 p/m more tax to support people not as fortunate as myself.

@alphabravo
Sorry, you’ve lost me. No idea what that haikuesque post meant or how it related in the least to my previous points? How is not believing in charity incompatible with a belief that people should contribute a fair amount? I’m all ears, but please don’t spew anymore unrelated waffle!

I know that Jeremy Corbyn is accused of anti semitism all the time. I know he’s a supporter of the Palestinian cause. But aside from that (which in itself isn’t anti-Semitic) what has he done directly or said that is anti-Semitic?

Have you not actually read the thread. As i said before, some of it isn’t just Corbyn it’s just that he has stood by and never condemned it including his own MP’s.