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Good God Extinction Rebellion blocking a funeral hearse.

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HelenaDove · 07/10/2019 18:44

I know where they are coming from but for the love of God you dont block and/or lie under a funeral hearse. FGS think of the relatives and friends of the deceased and how they are feeling.

Unfuckingreal!

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HelenaDove · 11/10/2019 16:39

I tagged @MNHQ in a while back. Guess i shall report the OP. They could change hearse to plane. But im not as pedantic as you so i wont ask them to do that.

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ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 11/10/2019 16:43

Of course you have to report it, I thought you knew how to report? Grin

It's not pedantic to ask for something that's not true to be corrected.

HelenaDove · 11/10/2019 16:44

Done Chardonnay But remember i cant make them change it if they decide its not needed.

I suspect you want the whole thread deleted.

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HelenaDove · 11/10/2019 16:48

So you would have been fine with "Extinction Rebellion use hearse for publicity stunt."

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ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 11/10/2019 16:52

Why would I?

HelenaDove · 11/10/2019 16:56

I posted this on a previous thread because ive seen working class women targeted too many times over fast fashion. The subject came up on an earlier XR thread.

............Quite a while ago there was a Dispatches programme about fast fashion. While watching it i clicked on the # hashtag. FULL of middle class people berating working class women (misogyny AND classism) for shopping at places like New Look and Primark.

Working class women who work in supermarkets and care homes and are on UC (which is NOT only an out of work benefit) and/or women on a low income being berated ridiculed and guilt tripped for not shopping at fucking People Tree or Karen Millen.

People in this situation cant afford to shop ethically. Are victimised for not doing so . I wonder what the reaction would be if a woman had to go to a food bank because she had shopped ethically that week and couldnt afford food.

Where would XR be if something like this got into the press. You wouldnt see their backsides for dust.

I STILL havent had an answer to the question about schools changing their school uniform every five minutes which leads to clothing waste.

Working class women having to shop for clothes cheaply keeps fast fashion going so the factories keep producing it then working class women having to buy it because they cant afford to shop ethically and round and round we go The cycle of poverty.

Im bloody sick of poorer individuals especially women being targeted over this.

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Dyrne · 11/10/2019 21:13

HelenaDove I agree it’s a bit more complicated than just berating people for buying from Primark etc. One thing is just buying less clothes, and to be honest I do wonder if anyone’s taken into account that poor working class women may buy from Primark, but they buy clothes a lot less often than richer women do.

HelenaDove · 12/10/2019 00:07

YY Dyrne. As i type im currently wearing one of the two lilac jumpers i bought from New Look back in 2006. Ive bought clothes since then obvs but i just posted that to show that a lot of high street stuff does last.

My hairdresser bought a Ted Baker purse The zip went after a fortnight.

I have purses from Shoezone ive had for years.

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HelenaDove · 12/10/2019 00:08

Ted Baker purse was £56

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 12/10/2019 13:05

Well this thread has taken a dark turn...

I walked through Trafalgar sq and down to the river yesterday and apart from the drums (which apparently are constant), it wasn’t quite as awful as I imagined. Just a few people politely handing out leaflets. Apparently around the City was bad with flash mobs popping up and police haring about.

There was a fair bit of plastic though (bottles and banners) and I just can’t take the weeping widows or whatever they are (the ones in the robes and white faces marching up and down like a gcse drama project). I can’t see all that fabric and dye being particularly environmentally friendly.

SMUnifiedMinds · 12/10/2019 13:41

Bloody hell. Soola says she wants to murder people in cold blood, it stays up. Call her out on it and it gets deleted.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 12/10/2019 14:17

Why was Sun deleted but Soola's original comment still stands? They only called out on it?

And why is the thread title still standing? Very odd.

AutumnRose1 · 12/10/2019 14:33

"I think it's pretty telling that the worst crime the PP could find was a man who missed his father's death bed"

I think that statement says a lot about you, Cheerful. What exactly are you saving people from extinction for? So the cannon fodder of capitalism can continue and we don't even get to see our dads before they die?

I'm trying to look at this objectively. In my work circle, some very intelligent people are involved in it and I just don't get it.

In terms of ambulance delays, buses have been virtually unuseable this week. I have asthma and find the air quality on the Tube makes it worse - this is not unusual - so prefer to use the bus when I can. But many people will have been delayed in ambulances, yes.

I could be wrong but I think the media are trying to downplay the protests to avoid mass hysteria. Similar to what happened with the London riots.

I do actually wonder if most people think they are complete muppets but don't feel able to say so.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 12/10/2019 14:37

I had to walk to hospital. Lucky my legs are ok.

AutumnRose1 · 12/10/2019 14:46

I do honestly wonder if many people affected, re hospitals etc, are not going to say anything on social media because a) they'll be torn to shreds b) they are too busy dealing with all the fall out caused by delays in getting patients treated in a system that's already falling down.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 12/10/2019 14:48

A patient came in 1.5hrs late because she was stuck somewhere. People come far because it’s a specialist clinic!

Oliversmumsarmy · 12/10/2019 14:56

I do actually wonder if most people think they are complete muppets but don't feel able to say so

I thought the general consensus was they were total muppets and people jumping on the bandwagon to make themselves look hip and cool

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 12/10/2019 15:00

Well the 30 or so I saw marching along green park looked like poor wee souls. Everyone was ignoring them and the police were laughing. They were trying bless em but I couldn’t help but think back to my student protest days.

The grass the grass! The grass is MINE
The trees the trees! The trees are MINE
The clouds the clouds! The clouds are MIIIIINNEE

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 12/10/2019 15:01

(That was their chant today not mine back in in the day)

AutumnRose1 · 12/10/2019 15:38

Thanks Oliver that's interesting

Lord I can't believe my colleagues used up annual leave for this, but that chant makes me even more "OMD!" about it all.

TheMonkeyWhale · 12/10/2019 16:07

(Blocking’s ambulances, fire engines and diverting the police from actually policing)

Last time around I saw them block not one, but two emergency ambulances on blue lights accessing St Thomas' Hospital across Waterloo Bridge. It was truly sickening and they subsequently lost all of my support.

AutumnRose1 · 12/10/2019 17:35

Monkey in the spirit of understanding, I'd be really interested to hear what you thought of them before that.

TheMonkeyWhale · 12/10/2019 17:47

@AutumnRose1

I went to Waterloo Bridge because I wanted to hear what they had to say, I wanted to hear what they thought would come out of the mass disruption and to hear how they would go about things in the future. At the time I was on the bridge they were not even recycling their rubbish (I know the next day after receiving criticism they did start recycling points). I spent three days with them, talking to people on both sides and trying to form an opinion on how best I could tackle climate change as an individual and as part of a community - I have decided that XR is not the way forwards and I am getting quite frustrated with them hijacking other events (nature, environmental etc.) and pushing their agenda and mass disruption tactics on community issues where more support from the community would be sought if there was no XR involvement.

I feel now that many people agree with some of their points, but do not agree with their tactics and I am also concerned they are polarising communities rather than insisting everyone can do their bit and make a change through a collective effort. I'm also finding them quite hypocritical.

I am happy for people to change my views on anything I have said though.

AutumnRose1 · 12/10/2019 18:46

Monkey thank you, that's really interesting. Because of working nearby I knew about the rubbish and not recycling but when I mentioned it to a friend in another county - who was also demonstrating - I could tell she didn't believe me, which is kind of annoying.

As I say, I think people keep quiet on social media because they will be criticised and I think the XR tactics are grim.

"I'm also finding them quite hypocritical."

the hypocrisy thing is amazing. I'm sure they've skewed all the search results but if you try to look to see if anyone else has expressed that opinion, mostly all you hear is what a shame it is that people are "criticising" their efforts.

I'm particularly struck by it all this time because after last time, I thought they'd lose support but now I see more of my contacts supporting them. A pp mentioned about jumping on the hip bandwagon. I can see that element with famous people but I think with more ordinary folk it's more of a mass hysteria thing.

I mentioned upthread about a neighbour who didn't want to leave London because of all the junk food and shopping you can get here. She's out protesting again, and the colleagues who took annual leave are consumers who wouldn't dream of a packed lunch or a flask for coffee etc. I wonder if there's a real disconnect in their heads or if they just enjoy being part of something?

I really hope what Olivers says is correct and most people just think they are fools. It's kind of giving me the rage and that's in spite of doing yoga Grin. I was hoping they'd ramp down but next week might be even worse I guess.

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