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Unplanned - Abortion Film **Trigger Warning** Title edited by MNHQ sensitive content*

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Mum2386 · 20/09/2019 10:33

Hi,
Last night I watched a film called Unplanned, which is based on a true story of a lady working within an abortion clinic called ‘Planned Parenthood’. The film itself brought me to tears on many occasions and it’s made me feel very uncomfortable surrounding abortion. I had an unplanned pregnancy with my third child but knew abortion wasn’t an option for me. I am quite shocked by the amount of abortions that still take place within our society. Does anyone else feel this way? I know we all have different views but i just wondered what other people’s thoughts were on this very sensitive topic.

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DoctorAllcome · 21/09/2019 12:53

@Fraggling
“Just irritated with all this stuff about state laws and us stats on a UK website.

I find it continually intriguing and not a little irritating that so many usa people charge around in the internet seemingly thinking that what happens in the USA is universal and default. ”

You’d have a better point if this thread started about a U.K. abortion documentary, but since it started with a US abortion documentary, is it not a little understandable that a US reader might think the discussion was about abortions in the US?

Saucery · 21/09/2019 12:55

Well, now you know it’s not solely about the US, despite the origins of this particular film.
I’m sure UK pro-lifers have their own scare tactic material, perhaps one of them will link to it soon.

Fraggling · 21/09/2019 12:56

If they hadn't read the thread they might, I suppose.

Saucery · 21/09/2019 12:57

@Mum2386 are you in the UK or US? Did you wish to restrict discussion to one particular country?

Fraggling · 21/09/2019 12:58

Apologies
Xpost
That was in response to our American doctor friend who has come to tell it like it is (in a different country).

DoctorAllcome · 21/09/2019 12:59

@Fraggling
“Condoms aren't a solution.
You literally said that. ”

Yes I did. But again you are taking that out of context. Naggy was talking about a solution to reducing the number of abortions (and by implication justifying banning abortions) by men using conforms. Men already use condoms. So, my saying it’s “condoms aren’t a solution” was to naggy implying that through condom use, we can eliminate the need for abortions. We will always need abortions.

Fraggling · 21/09/2019 13:02

I mean we can talk about usa where the law is totally different, women across lots of states are finding it harder or impossible to access abortion, this like a compulsory transvaginal scan have been brought in, waiting periods, compulsory look at heartbeat.

We can talk about the maternal mortality rate as well, the highest for a developed country in the world. Or about how women have died in hosp because lots of hosps are Catholic (I was really surprised to learn this) and so are failing to provide timely abortion to save women's lives.

I mean there's a lot to talk about. This is talk on mn though, and the conversation and people in it are uk based and have been through the thread.

USA laws issues are totally different to here.

DoctorAllcome · 21/09/2019 13:08

@Fraggling
“I mean we can talk about usa where the law is totally different,...”

Thank you. I will be sure to appropriately tag any comments with the applicable country. 🇺🇸

Aaarrgghhh · 21/09/2019 13:11

If I had an unwanted pregnancy, I'd much rather have a termination than go through pregnancy, birth and relinquishing a baby.

As for all the infertile couples... pregnant women who don't want a baby owe them nothing.

I agree.

timshelthechoice · 21/09/2019 13:16

Please calm down.

There you go! Calm down, little woman. The statement woman-haters love to use when the little woman just won't shut up and agree with them and do as they're bid.

Restricting reproductive autonomy is always about controlling women, punishing them for having sex and is inherently misogynist.

Thankfully in the UK, the law sees this and so legislates choice.

Wiltshirelass2019 · 21/09/2019 13:16

Aaarrgghhh and infertile people don’t owe adoption agency’s anything either.

Enough with the infertile bashing...

Fraggling · 21/09/2019 13:22

And now you're stamping usa flags on the thread?

Lol and wow.

I look forward to reading your info on other countries that you see as pertinent to the UK women on this chat thread.

Aaarrgghhh · 21/09/2019 13:22

Wiltshirelass2019

How am I bashing people who are infertile? I’m saying what I wrote, to people who do think adoption is better and will also help those that can’t have their own. Previous poster said it better.

Fraggling · 21/09/2019 13:24

'If I had an unwanted pregnancy, I'd much rather have a termination than go through pregnancy, birth and relinquishing a baby'

Me too.

The idea that once you're pg you 'might as well' go ahead and have a baby ignores totally the massive physical and often mental toll on the woman. That and oh just give it up (as if women have no feelings) is just straight up misogyny.

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Mum2386 · 21/09/2019 13:44

Mum2386 Are you a bit thick? Do you know what the word choice means? I mean I already posted a picture of a dead woman due to an illegal abortion, should I post some more? The fact you want to force women into these situations because they don’t want to have a baby because it’s not what you would choose is disgusting.

Aarrggghhh- Erm you’re the thick one here. Where did I say to ban abortion? Who said I chose for women not to have abortions, I’ve said it’s their choice, are you too stupid to work that out. Do you really think my comment is going to stop women have abortions, no didn’t think so!
The pictures which I didn’t see don’t bother me, why would they, if they chose that route themselves, I didn’t refuse them to have an abortion, you’re directing your anger at the wrong person. You are also trying to use graphic pictures to get your point across, which is not working on my part, should I post a picture of an aborted baby too? Maybe you’ll also feel sorry for the fetus too.

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Saucery · 21/09/2019 13:47

And there we have it. ‘They chose that route themselves ‘. About a woman dying of an illegal abortion.

Disgusting beyond measure, as usual.

JacquesHammer · 21/09/2019 13:48

The fact you want to force women into these situations because they don’t want to have a baby because it’s not what you would choose is disgusting

What situations do you think people who are pro-choice are forcing pregnant women into?

Aaarrgghhh · 21/09/2019 13:52

Mum2386 Even when I explained what the picture was you managed to get it spectacularly wrong. The woman in the picture I posted is dead on the floor during a time when abortions were illegal, she died because she had an illegal abortion, she felt such a strong need to not have this baby for whatever reason personal to herself, that she risked her life to have an abortion when they weren’t allowed legally. Your opinion would start deaths of women like this all over again in supposed civilised countries.

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Mum2386 · 21/09/2019 13:53

And there we have it. ‘They chose that route themselves ‘. About a woman dying of an illegal abortion.

Disgusting beyond measure, as usual.

That’s like saying someone who is mentally ill killing themselves and blaming their family for not helping them. If a woman chooses to have an illegal abortion knowing the risks and still goes ahead, how is it anyone else’s fault? I fail how to see how it would affect it me.
Call it disgusting if it makes you feel better. Do you also feel sorry for aborted fetuses? If not you’re disgusting too!

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StockTakeFucks · 21/09/2019 13:54

@Saucery that's because all throughout the thread OP chose the "not my circus,not my monkeys line". Despite starting the discussion,despite moaning that the number of abortions is too high and debating the rights and wrongs of abortion herself she always comes back to "well it's not my problem really".
She admitted she doesn't do or is willing to do anything that might change things for the better.

One might wonder what the point of this "discussion " is then.

Aaarrgghhh · 21/09/2019 13:54

What situations do you think people who are pro-choice are forcing pregnant women into?

I’m not sure what you mean? Im pro choice myself, I don’t think being pro choice forces pregnant women in any direction, I’d support whatever they decide for themselves.

JacquesHammer · 21/09/2019 13:56

Aaarrgghhh

I was asking the OP. I’m in full agreement with your posts.

She very much seems to be confusing “pro-choice” with “pro-abortion”.

Saucery · 21/09/2019 13:56

That’s it, @Mum2386, let it all out. True colours indeed. My oh my.

Saucery · 21/09/2019 13:58

Her agenda was plain from the beginning @StockTakeFucks. You just have to keep to your own line and wait for them to snap. They have to spit out the bit about ‘tiny hands and feet’ and accuse people of not caring about aborted foetuses sooner or later. They just can’t help it.

WestBerlin · 21/09/2019 13:59

What is your goal here, op? If you don’t care either way then why the fuck start the thread?

Deaths from illegal abortions are the reality of illegal abortions, and yes they are the fault of those who know that’s the outcome of regressive laws, but push them anyway. It’s disingenuous to call yourself ‘pro life’ when death is what you’re advocating.