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Girl given detentions after trousers SCHOOL issued her didnt fit.

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HelenaDove · 13/09/2019 18:10

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A single mum has hit out at a school in Devon for repeatedly giving her daughter detention because the trousers they issued her “didn’t fit her right”.

Lisa Daw said her 16-year-old daughter Beth was told off for wearing the “wrong trousers” when she turned up for the first day of term at Queen Elizabeth School in Crediton.

According to Ms Daw, however, Beth had been wearing the correct type of trousers because teachers had forced her to buy them from the school’s own clothing supplier the year before.

The school reportedly claimed the trousers were “too tight”, and on Tuesday took Beth out of class to march her back to the shop the trousers came from

A shop worker was said to have told the teaching assistant who escorted Beth to the store: “She’s wearing the right ones, it’s just her just her shape,” the Plymouth Herald reported.

Beth was then allowed to return to class but when she arrived back at school a teacher allegedly told her: “They are the right material, but they don’t fit you right.”

Despite meeting with the headteacher, however, Ms Daw was told that Beth would continue to receive detentions until her trousers were changed.

Ms Daw says that because she lives on benefits she has no extra money to pay for the trousers to be replaced.

She also said the incident had made Beth self-conscious about her body.

“She’s being made to feel fat and she’s not,” Ms Daw told i on Wednesday. “In this day and age teenagers are all body conscious.

“My daughter has been saying she’s fat. She’s a size 10/12, so she’s not fat.

“I want my daughter to be proud of her shape, I can’t do anything about her thighs.

Ms Daw has urged the school to change their uniform policy and claimed hundreds of children had fallen foul of the rules since returning from the summer holidays.

“There are lots of parents who have to go and buy mens trousers for their kids because they can’t get them in the size,” she added.

Read more:

School uniform costs are on the rise and pupils’ parents are forced to turn to second-hand clothes

Ms Daw said she believes the school is now punishing Beth “for her parents’ misfortune” since she can’t afford to replace the trousers.

“I’ve always tried to abide by the uniform policy,” she continued. “It doesn’t matter what hurdles you jump, it just seems there’s always going to be something wrong.”

“She’s not embarrassed about her shape. She’s got wider thighs. She has had a lot of positive feedback from people she doesn’t even know.

“But we haven’t had an apology from school.”

i has contacted Queen Elizabeth School for comment.

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SarahTancredi · 15/09/2019 12:13

Really because I still remember the last article where teachers took two girls shopping for school skirts after they were deemed too curvy for the ones they had despite them.being thensame as half the other girls skirts.

Result some hideous pleated granny skirt monstrosity that was actually transparent.

Not the first time it's happened

HelenaDove · 15/09/2019 16:55

So much for the i believe you ethos.

I will await the article where the school or teacher sue her for slander or the paper for libel and book mark this thread then.

How on earth can we teach young girls about boundaries with serious incidents like these eliciting replies such as....

a, she deserved it,

b. look at the mothers crappy pink hair she had the time and money for that.

c. it never happened.

A hat trick of misogyny

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Jbraise · 15/09/2019 17:22

@Helenadave

Oh come on there is always articles like this school/teacher bashing. Ridiculous

Jbraise · 15/09/2019 17:23

@HelenaDove
Sorry for the username mistake.

HelenaDove · 15/09/2019 17:29

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LolaSmiles · 15/09/2019 17:32

Helena
If there's grounds for a valid complaint (and there may be, there may not as local rags seem to pile on thick on how utterly distressing non events are) then the student and parent need to follow the complaints procedure of the school and raise the issue.

I always suspend judgement on school articles like that in local papers because there's almost always more to it. 95% of the time it's a non issue and the usual sad face where the student/parent seem to look similar to every other student/parent in every other uniform sad story. 5% of the time there's probably a real issue that needs raising, in which case donut properly through the right channels rather than whining to the press with a sad face on making claims about how distressing the whole thing was to your child's confidence etc, whilst drawing attention to the very thing you child is apparently in bits about.

Jbraise · 15/09/2019 17:34

@Helenadove

I actually didn’t take into account the parents hair colour . Is it harassment to say she has to wear the correct trousers.? Like the other children .

HelenaDove · 15/09/2019 17:49

Jesus wept its harassment to take her to a shop and make her remove them. FORCE HER TO REMOVE HER CLOTHING.

As we are asking stupid questions Is it not harassment just because shes under 18.

You know damn well what youve written in your post is not what i meant How fucking disingenuous.

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Jbraise · 15/09/2019 17:52

@Helenadove

Honestly do you really think a teacher took her out of school and to a shop?

youarenotkiddingme · 15/09/2019 18:03

This is why I always argue regulation styles are counterproductive in achieving that "all feel the same" desire.
We don't. I don't feel the same in a size 14 to my size 14 friend. We are different shapes and also very different heights.
I am physically the same size as another friend who is 7" shorter than me. Our hips measure the same and we both also wear a size 14. We couldn't wear the same style though and size 14 trousers would sit very differently on her (5") than me (5"7).

Uniform is appropriate in my view. But what is wiring with something that doesn't cause all this upset and distract from teaching and learning?

The 2 highest achieving secondaries near me have polo t shirt and sweat shirt uniform. Not a lot kids can do wrong wearing that! One is black trousers or knee length skirt. One is navy.

I agree with consequences for flouting length, or wearing leggings and not trousers.
But all pupils can choose a style of bottom wear that suits and fits them at a cost they can afford.

PickwickThePlockingDodo · 15/09/2019 18:50

Are you thick? This is where the harassment of women starts and gets normalized.

Oh come off it. If it was a fat boy at the school he would've been treated the same. My DS got detention for having the wrong shoes on. It wasn't harassment because he was a boy ffs.

And I still don't believe for a minute that a teacher has the time or inclination to march this kid to the school uniform shop and force her to undress 😂

HelenaDove · 15/09/2019 18:52

She is not fat She is a rugby player for the girls under 15s local team in that area. Go back to the DM

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HeadintheiClouds · 15/09/2019 18:53

You are very aggressive, Helena. And possibly paranoid.

HelenaDove · 15/09/2019 18:53

NO child should be forced to remove clothing like that.

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Soola · 15/09/2019 18:54

@HeadintheiClouds
You are very aggressive, Helena. And possibly paranoid.

I can explain that. She’s a loony lefty.

Jbraise · 15/09/2019 19:24

So if a girl turns up to school wearing a pinafore (not allowed at my school) I am not supposed to tell her she shouldn’t be wearing it ?

Jbraise · 15/09/2019 19:26

@PickwickThePlockingDodo
The thread wouldn’t be on here if it was a boy. I can categorically tell you as a teacher this did not happen . Yes she was probably given detention, which I agree with if she had the wrong trousers on .

PickwickThePlockingDodo · 15/09/2019 19:27

No Jbraise and don't get any ideas of forcing her down to the shops, I know you'd want to Grin

HelenaDove · 15/09/2019 19:29

Jbraise You are STILL not getting it What you arent supposed to do is make her disrobe.

The fact that you are not getting it just like the headmaster of that school makes me more certain that it did happen.

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Jbraise · 15/09/2019 19:30

@PickwickThePlockingDodo

You know what gets me, it won’t be too long before a thread on here is saying kids don’t respect teachers . They wonder why. Let us be in charge

Jbraise · 15/09/2019 19:32

@HelenaDove

I’m telling you they didn’t take her to the shops and make her disrobe

PickwickThePlockingDodo · 15/09/2019 19:42

What you arent supposed to do is make her disrobe.

You really honestly believe they made her walk to the uniform shop and force her to take her trousers off? You don't think that at any time in the proceedings she would've phoned her parents? Grin

Jbraise · 15/09/2019 19:48

@PickwickThePlockingDodo

It didn’t happen. Even if it did I’m sure they didn’t make her undress in the middle of the shop.

HeadintheiClouds · 15/09/2019 19:50

She wouldn’t have been allowed to undress in the middle of the shop, even if she herself had chosen to do so. God almighty Hmm

youarenotkiddingme · 15/09/2019 21:19

This thread wouldn't be on here if it was a boy.

That's because boys don't seem to have this issue imo.
Boys school trousers come slim, normal and plus fit. Adjustable waist and a choice of pleat seem and flat front.

They don't get ordered to wear a certain style.

I've seen plenty of 'larger' boys in secondary and those who's trousers are too short (including my ds for last 3 weeks of term as he shot up and I wasn't buying new that may not fit in length by September!)

I've not known any boy to receive a detention or isolation for school trousers being too tight because of their build or too short.

I agree if pupils chose to roll up skirt or purchase an 18" length when 20
And 22 are available so it's not knee length should receive a consequence for an active choice of not following policy.
But if you buy regulation uniform in your own size you shouldn't be punished for the fit of it.

Same way I don't agree girls should wear school shirts and ties. I've seen girls who are a size 10 but larger busted have to buy shirts way to big that hang off the shoulders and bulge when tucked in (or mushroom top as I call it!). It doesn't help support them having a positive body image.

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