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Girl given detentions after trousers SCHOOL issued her didnt fit.

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HelenaDove · 13/09/2019 18:10

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A single mum has hit out at a school in Devon for repeatedly giving her daughter detention because the trousers they issued her “didn’t fit her right”.

Lisa Daw said her 16-year-old daughter Beth was told off for wearing the “wrong trousers” when she turned up for the first day of term at Queen Elizabeth School in Crediton.

According to Ms Daw, however, Beth had been wearing the correct type of trousers because teachers had forced her to buy them from the school’s own clothing supplier the year before.

The school reportedly claimed the trousers were “too tight”, and on Tuesday took Beth out of class to march her back to the shop the trousers came from

A shop worker was said to have told the teaching assistant who escorted Beth to the store: “She’s wearing the right ones, it’s just her just her shape,” the Plymouth Herald reported.

Beth was then allowed to return to class but when she arrived back at school a teacher allegedly told her: “They are the right material, but they don’t fit you right.”

Despite meeting with the headteacher, however, Ms Daw was told that Beth would continue to receive detentions until her trousers were changed.

Ms Daw says that because she lives on benefits she has no extra money to pay for the trousers to be replaced.

She also said the incident had made Beth self-conscious about her body.

“She’s being made to feel fat and she’s not,” Ms Daw told i on Wednesday. “In this day and age teenagers are all body conscious.

“My daughter has been saying she’s fat. She’s a size 10/12, so she’s not fat.

“I want my daughter to be proud of her shape, I can’t do anything about her thighs.

Ms Daw has urged the school to change their uniform policy and claimed hundreds of children had fallen foul of the rules since returning from the summer holidays.

“There are lots of parents who have to go and buy mens trousers for their kids because they can’t get them in the size,” she added.

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School uniform costs are on the rise and pupils’ parents are forced to turn to second-hand clothes

Ms Daw said she believes the school is now punishing Beth “for her parents’ misfortune” since she can’t afford to replace the trousers.

“I’ve always tried to abide by the uniform policy,” she continued. “It doesn’t matter what hurdles you jump, it just seems there’s always going to be something wrong.”

“She’s not embarrassed about her shape. She’s got wider thighs. She has had a lot of positive feedback from people she doesn’t even know.

“But we haven’t had an apology from school.”

i has contacted Queen Elizabeth School for comment.

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LolaSmiles · 14/09/2019 15:20

Oh yes. I do love the 84 people didn't buy the school uniform item Facebook comments.

Much as I don't like single supplier, surely you're a certain kind of stupid if you think "uniform says buy A... I'll buy B instead". It's almost like parental attitudes such as this are a contributing factor to schools going single supplier.

Hilariously, the schools in our regional who feature most with the sad face uniform stories are the schools who are known to have a high percentage of parents who are unwilling or incapable of comprehending the most basic rules on earth and will also tend to complain that their child is in isolation because their child "only asked a question".

SarahTancredi · 14/09/2019 15:38

But lola what if the uniform.item.doesnt fit?
Fir instance as I said with dds uniform.trousers that didnt go down small enough. What do kids who dont fit them do if not source one as close to the uniform.item as possible ?

Amd what about all the really tall boys who no longer fit in school trousers but need mens clothing?

SarahTancredi · 14/09/2019 15:42

And not forgetting when suppliers let you down.

All the kids every year who ordered items in plenty of time and the suppliers failed to deliver.

And yes that happens. I'm.stull waiting on a pe top as we speak that the supplier has failed for the second time to fulfil the order

LolaSmiles · 14/09/2019 15:50

SarahTancredi
I hate single supplier uniform options. I don't agree with them.
They should offer more sizes and different leg lengths in my opinion and a number of cuts for different builds if schools do that.

The thing is, having worked in schools, the specifics don't cater for the outliers very well, but to be honest the vast majority of times when 84 kids turn up not in uniforms has bugger all to do with genuine issues with supplier. They're the same students who prior to the uniform changes would have been kitted out in leggings not trousers, whose parents think that "no trainers" means "spend £80 on trainers and do a sad compo face to the local rag when the school says they're trainers".
Often the reason schools go down the route of single supplier is because a substantial number of students and parents categorically ignore even the most simple, basic uniform rules that existed before.

At my school we have 2 compulsory items from our suppliers (more than one locally): blazer and tie. Anything else is optional. It's no surprise that we're a school where parents over the years have kitted their kids out properly for school

SarahTancredi · 14/09/2019 16:03

I think the biggest factor is greed if I'm honest.

Uniform trade has become a multi million pound industry. The prices have sky rocketed. Now people would pay of it meant purchasing well.Made good quality items. But now they are all horrendous quality. The cuts are insane. I dont think.they have been near a child. I'm.fact it's harder year on year to get clothes to fit at all. They are all made cheaply somewhere hundreds/thousands of miles away. Obscene mark ups. And absolutely shocking quality.

The sooner schools realise this and lighten up.a bit on the whole thing the better

SarahTancredi · 14/09/2019 16:09

Its probably why outside of school kids live in joggers or leggings

You cant really screw those up the way you can with trousers.

ivykaty44 · 14/09/2019 16:15

The way these teachers have behaved, sadly doesn’t surprise me & quiet honestly gives teachers a bad name - they should hang their heads in shame.

WishMyNameWasWittyNotShitty · 14/09/2019 17:18

We used to have to wear tailored trousers for school, I'm short, big thighs and hips, I looked like I was wearing a bloody bed sheet around my legs, they made me look bigger than I was (size 12-14 so got huge) and really dented my confidence. A skirt wasn't an option as you would end up being tripped over in the corridors and it was safer in trousers......a pity school was more concerned about uniform than shit behaviour of its pupils!

WishMyNameWasWittyNotShitty · 14/09/2019 17:43

*not huge!

BreakWindandFire · 14/09/2019 18:10

There's a similar story in the Portsmouth press today. In this case the girl is size 24-26 and the stipulated uniform doesn't exist in her size.

NeverSayFreelance · 14/09/2019 19:02

I'm baffled at people who think teenagers need new trousers each year. I stopped growing upwards at 11 years old! My S1 PE trackies still fit and I use them for doing the gardening!

MyDcAreMarvel · 14/09/2019 19:40

You are an anomaly , most teenagers grow!

Hoppinggreen · 14/09/2019 19:51

After 3 weeks of visiting the ONLY shop where we are allowed to get DDs uniform several times to try on various sizes of skirt and trousers and then 3 visits to a tailor who charged almost as much as the 2 skirts cost to buy to take them apart and remake them her Head Of Year still isn’t happy with DD’s skirt (not long enough apparently but we only had them taken in not up).
Children, especially girls aren’t a standard shape and if only 1 pair of trousers or 1 skirt is allowed it just won’t fit everyone

CassianAndor · 14/09/2019 19:54

Never I stopped growing upwards at 11 too. Kept growing outwards for quite a while though...

BikeRunSki · 14/09/2019 22:16

That’s nice @NeverSayFreelance. I was 14 when I stopped growing upwards when I was 14.

HelenaDove · 15/09/2019 00:20

Well Lola the fb comments that stick out to me are the ones who think its A OK for a 14 year old girl to be made to take her trousers off by adults in front of people. Particularly the comments from men saying this is perfectly okay and that she deserved it. Not a good look!

People i have discussed this with today in RL are appalled.

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Jbraise · 15/09/2019 07:07

Why is it always the school being unreasonable. I’m sorry if told they were the wrong trousers on the first day, why is she still wearing them.

MythicalBiologicalFennel · 15/09/2019 08:34

Let's not forget the basics here: school uniform is completely unnecessary. All these rules, humiliation, time-wasting and aggravation are completely self-imposed. Other schools and other countries manage to educate children without any of this shit.

LolaSmiles · 15/09/2019 08:42

Helena
I've not see the Facebook comments.
I don't tend to read them. Anyone saying those comments are out of order.
I do see similar articles on Angry People in Local Newspapers. It's always the way at this stage in the year.

I guess what surprises me is that the last two schools I've been in we have very few uniform issues (one with a bit of single supply due to previous terrible ability to wear simple uniform) and one with blazer/tie from multiple local shops and the rest wherever you want to buy. I can take or leave uniform and I don't like single supplier, but it's interesting that almost every article you read where someone's sad facing in the local press (at least around my region) is one that's known for having poor behaviour/long term issues

PamEars · 15/09/2019 09:38

Why did the girl have to take her trousers off in front of people and not in the changing cubicle?

PamEars · 15/09/2019 09:43

My dcs' school has a set style for the skirt and trousers but most girls wear skirts and they come in 3 different lengths and a much bigger range of waist sizes than usual. Plus they aren't required to be knee length. They are mass produced, not specific to the school and not over priced. Seems to work ok. I assume they have a set style for girls not boys because girls have tended to go to extremes with tightness and length more in the past.

Jbraise · 15/09/2019 10:52

Did I read it properly? The teacher took her out of school and back to the shop.

Jbraise · 15/09/2019 10:53

At my school . Girls are not allowed to wear skirts or a pinafore

PickwickThePlockingDodo · 15/09/2019 12:06

Did I read it properly? The teacher took her out of school and back to the shop.

Yeah, as if.

Jbraise · 15/09/2019 12:10

@PickwickThePlockingDodo

Exactly. I rarely get the time for a wee never mind go shopping with students. Article is bs

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