Girl given detentions after trousers SCHOOL issued her didnt fit.

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A single mum has hit out at a school in Devon for repeatedly giving her daughter detention because the trousers they issued her “didn’t fit her right”.

Lisa Daw said her 16-year-old daughter Beth was told off for wearing the “wrong trousers” when she turned up for the first day of term at Queen Elizabeth School in Crediton.

According to Ms Daw, however, Beth had been wearing the correct type of trousers because teachers had forced her to buy them from the school’s own clothing supplier the year before.

The school reportedly claimed the trousers were “too tight”, and on Tuesday took Beth out of class to march her back to the shop the trousers came from

A shop worker was said to have told the teaching assistant who escorted Beth to the store: “She’s wearing the right ones, it’s just her just her shape,” the Plymouth Herald reported.

Beth was then allowed to return to class but when she arrived back at school a teacher allegedly told her: “They are the right material, but they don’t fit you right.”

Despite meeting with the headteacher, however, Ms Daw was told that Beth would continue to receive detentions until her trousers were changed.

Ms Daw says that because she lives on benefits she has no extra money to pay for the trousers to be replaced.

She also said the incident had made Beth self-conscious about her body.

“She’s being made to feel fat and she’s not,” Ms Daw told i on Wednesday. “In this day and age teenagers are all body conscious.

“My daughter has been saying she’s fat. She’s a size 10/12, so she’s not fat.

“I want my daughter to be proud of her shape, I can’t do anything about her thighs.

Ms Daw has urged the school to change their uniform policy and claimed hundreds of children had fallen foul of the rules since returning from the summer holidays.

“There are lots of parents who have to go and buy mens trousers for their kids because they can’t get them in the size,” she added.

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Ms Daw said she believes the school is now punishing Beth “for her parents’ misfortune” since she can’t afford to replace the trousers.

“I’ve always tried to abide by the uniform policy,” she continued. “It doesn’t matter what hurdles you jump, it just seems there’s always going to be something wrong.”

“She’s not embarrassed about her shape. She’s got wider thighs. She has had a lot of positive feedback from people she doesn’t even know.

“But we haven’t had an apology from school.”

i has contacted Queen Elizabeth School for comment.

Poverty shaming?she can afford the pink hair dye but not her child’s trousers?

"The Plymouth Live page has a further quote from the mum:
"She's fit and strong and I'm proud of her. She's not overweight. To get trousers big enough to have a crease, she would have to have a huge baggy waistband. We already have to take these ones in."
So seems the next up is far too big in the waist, and they already have altered the pair she has"

What a load of pratting about that is involved. Its not just the cost on its own though its bad enough that they think parents can shit money
Its the mental load of it. All the pissing about The mental load which 9 times out of 10 falls on the mother.

soola

So what part of being rich makes it ok to body shame a 16 yr old?

Will it miraculously make the same pair of trousers fit?

If they're going to have uniform they really need to simplify it. Personally I'd go for something similar to what a lot of retail staff wear nowadays - comfortable black trousers, polo shirt and hoodie or fleece in the school colours, can be loose and longer length for kids that are self conscious about their size. You don't see Marks and Spencers or Tesco staff demonstrating or doing Daily mail sadface. They just get on with it.

Ds2 is wide and short. He has just started yr7, so he's 11, but I had to buy the regulation trousers (introduced this year) in age 14 to fit his waist. I took the legs up (by about 8 inches ) but they looked AWFUL. The crotch was halfway to his knees and the reinforced knee patch on the inside was on the bottom of his shin! I could not send him in looking like that. So he's gone in almost identical Sainsbury's trousers that still had to be taken up but don't make him look like he's wearing dressing up clothes.

Surprise surprise, the school have not batted an eyelid.

This has actually had a massive impact on my budget as a single mum. I bought three pairs of trousers each for him and ds1 (who is tall and skinny and an entirely different shape from ds2 so I can't pass trousers down this year being the first of new style- ds1 is so skinny that regulation trousers make him look like he is wearing a nappy) at the start of the summer holidays and now can't return them because I stupidly thought that everyone else would be wearing the same ones and now it's too late to return. Not the case. A handful of students have the regulation trousers and that's it.

I've spent £200 on trousers, £120 of which have been alteref that I now can't sell on. I'm gutted.

My tumble drier has broken and I can't afford to replace it, but I could have done had school not insisted on one style of trousers for all which I wish I hadn't bothered adhering to.

Schools have a huge potential impact on parental budget and it upsets me that have tried my hardest to respect the rules but ended up massively out of pocket as a result.

Oh, come off it with your “mental load”! She’d have run a seam up fifty times over in the time she spent turning her hair that crappy shade of pink.
How do people cope, when this shite counts as an onerous mental load?

It is PART of the mental load as a mother Because 9 times out of ten its the mother that has to deal with it on top of everything else..

I wouldnt know how to run up a seam Im not great at that sort of thing.
Fucking glad i chose to be child free In the 90s i could see all this shit coming.

Mentioning her appearance Misogyny alert

Just get rid of bloody uniform. Job done.

Alert my arse. I’d have mentioned a bloke with a candyfloss head just as quickly, if not quicker.

Why did you buy 3 pairs of trousers before checking they fitted?

How can you be so skinny that wearing normal trousers makes you look like you’re wearing a nappy? Is he Flat Stanley?

Whatever the rights or wrongs, the mother is either a selfish fucker or a stupid one. Discussing your daughters wider thighs in the media is downright cruel.

Not that there is anything wrong with her daughters body, or that even if there was there’d be anything to be ashamed of. But no teenager needs their body shape to be discussed and opened to scrutiny in such a manner in the public eye, and it would take extreme levels of confidence not to be hurt by any negative comments that will also be made by some fuckwits, not to mention piss taking by her peers.

Also, if she’s on benefits why no mention of asking the school to help from the pp money they receive for her? Although I agree it sounds like she’s just wearing last years.

And ffs to mentioning ‘the mental load’. What bollocks.

See I dont get this. People so busy banging on about rules or debating whether a hair cut they got three weeks ago really could mean they couldn't go out today and buy more trousers and they completely miss the points.

We have overly prescriptive rules that expect an item from one supplier to fit the smallest yr seven through to the 6 foot 6 yr 11 totally forgetting about body shapes, puberty and the financial burden and children usually girls being punished for wearing exactly the same as everyone else.

The style and beauty section must he full of out and out liars then when they try on multiple items and struggle to find a dress or Jeans or trousers that fits and that's on bloody adults who have finished growing who have the choice of every store known to man . These same posters are under some massive illusion you can walk into m&s grab a pair of trousers and if they dont fit you can just sew a popper into the waistband.

It just isnt like that. It very obviously couldn't be like that. I dont know why the second it's a school uniform everyone's lying or cheap. I have 2 dds and there are still plenty if items that one can wear but the other cant and that's when they are fully related. How hard if thinking do you really have to be to bit realise that 750 girls ranging from.11 to 16 are not gonna fit the same item regardless if whether you go up a size or 10.

Maybe we should pretend we are talking about school dinners because then people seek to be able to comprehend that what's enough for the just turned 4 yr old wont fill up the 5 ft 6 yr 6 kid.

The contempt for school girls sickens.me frankly. I dont give a shit if you dont like the mother it makes no difference to the fact that this is not a.unique problem. Half the school trousers haven't been near a child in their design.and manufacture and im.sick.to death of seeing girls spoken about like utter crap because their bodies dont fit regulation trousers or skirt and parents would rather find fault with the child or the family than confront the undeniable sexist
racist and discriminatory uniform.restrictions that we seem so hell bent on following like mindless drones.

And yes I said racist. Because there was another thread still going that featured a girl who was disqualified from winning her swimming event because she wasnt white and had a different body shape and her school issue yes SCHOOL ISSUE swim.suit was deemed inappropriate. Thankfully it was over turned but this what girls are up against.

Well said.

Didn't the person at the shop confirm she was wearing the right size? How awful to have your body shape discussed by all an sundry, especially at that age.

The way some secondary schools in the UK prioritise uniform over education is disgraceful. I wish this sort of thing was penalised heavily on inspections and league tables.

The main issue with set specified trousers is they don't account for all shapes and sizes. Poor girl. Another reason why single suppliers are awful.

Sadly this is where what it comes to when enough parents are too stupid or pushovers and insist on ignoring perfectly clear uniform policies that aren't single supplier.

As an aside, I do find these uniform stories hilarious. Every year without fail there's someone in the local paper with their sad face on for their 5 mins of fame (or longer if angry people in local newspapers find it).

Maybe take them in at the waist, Sarah
Then let the seam out again when she grows?

Like hundreds of parents do all over the country, every year, without going to the papers🤷‍♀️

And you don't have to spend money getting it professionally done, just a simple needle and thread should do it. I used to use that wonder web stuff on my DS's trousers to take them up as they were always too long. Everything is always such a drama these days.

Anyone who thinks that taking up hems with wondaweb is anything like taking in the waistline on a pair of trousers clearly knows nothing about sewing and dressmaking.

They’re uniform trousers. She won’t be swanning down the catwalk. What can it possibly matter if the alteration wouldn’t pass muster at Yves Saint Laurent?

I grew up with a similar issue. I had a tiny waist but I inherited thunder thighs from my mum. Very hourglass. So with the crap cut of jeans when I was a kid, the waistbands always gaped in order for them to fit my upper legs. I was not overweight at all, I would have looked lovely if my clothes were shaped for my body type. Same problem when as a college student I worked for Tesco. We had to have particular trousers and blouse, but the trousers were tight on parts of me and hurt, and the blouse wasn't long enough not to show this because my boobs were so large they pulled the blouse up. And this was in large sizes. I wasn't much larger than when I was a kid, just with a more womanly shape. It's no wonder I grew up hating my body, still do. As soon as waistbands started being cut to sit lower down, I started feeling more comfortable in ladies clothes as opposed to oversized men's ones. Fashion now seems to have returned to high waistbands again. Ugh.
I remember being told off when I had a growth spurt and my nicest school skirt was suddenly an inch shorter than it should be. I hadn't noticed. I know my mum wasn't impressed with having to buy another one. Back then we had to get our uniform from a particular shop too. I don't agree with it, I know how this girl must feel. It's hard to concentrate too when your clothes don't fit.

Urskeks i grew up with exactly the same issue.

Even without the mum involving the media the school by itself wont have done much for the young girls body confidence issues.

Ok those that say just get it alter it isnt so simple for woman1 boys tend to have basically the same ish shape girls/woman have more variable fit points
We have so many fit points:

Waist
Hips
Rise
Bottom
Thighs
Calves
Leg length
And we all vary. Each body shape has different issues.

H, V and O shapes often find that the waist is too tight, resulting in a nasty muffin top, but the hips/bottom too saggy. If they do find a pant that has a waistband that fits, because of their straighter shape, they slide down all the time and they spend the day hitching up their trousers.
8, A and X shapes find that the waists are too large, the rise too low and the hips and bottom too tight which creates nasty pulling across the crotch area.
Of course there is the length of the legs too.

Petite women find that even if they take the pants up, the proportions of the shape, where the knee should be, is out of whack and so the trousers don’t look quite right. Here from a website insideoutstyleblog.com/2015/11/why-its-so-hard-to-find-pants-that-fit.html. Clothing manufacturers are making for some generic body that really doesn’t exist in more than 10% of the population. They tend to cut straighter lines because they are cheaper to make – remember fashion is not about making you look great, but selling clothes that will become quickly redundant so you have to buy more.

We have so many fit points:

Waist
Hips
Rise
Bottom
Thighs
Calves
Leg length
And we all vary. Each body shape has different issues.

H, V and O shapes often find that the waist is too tight, resulting in a nasty muffin top, but the hips/bottom too saggy. If they do find a pant that has a waistband that fits, because of their straighter shape, they slide down all the time and they spend the day hitching up their trousers.
8, A and X shapes find that the waists are too large, the rise too low and the hips and bottom too tight which creates nasty pulling across the crotch area.
Tall women have endless issue trying to find pants that don’t look like they’ve grown out of them.
Pants are tricky garments to purchase and there is only so much you can alter a pair.
I have never ever found a pair of trousers that have fitted except those with elasticated waists. and those of you who say take in in at the waist have you ever tired to alter a waist band properly ? i am not talking elasticated here but a proper waist band ? yeah you could just fold and sew but depending on the bulk of the fabric that could be a lot esp if you have wide hips and slim waist and dont even get me started on those with a natural high waist and the problem of stitting down and not showing your knickers...

That sounds fucking barbaric.

@NineInchSnails tbf your situation is not the same as the girl unlike your ds is not overweight.

"I have never ever found a pair of trousers that have fitted except those with elasticated waists"

Me neither.