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Girl given detentions after trousers SCHOOL issued her didnt fit.

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HelenaDove · 13/09/2019 18:10

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A single mum has hit out at a school in Devon for repeatedly giving her daughter detention because the trousers they issued her “didn’t fit her right”.

Lisa Daw said her 16-year-old daughter Beth was told off for wearing the “wrong trousers” when she turned up for the first day of term at Queen Elizabeth School in Crediton.

According to Ms Daw, however, Beth had been wearing the correct type of trousers because teachers had forced her to buy them from the school’s own clothing supplier the year before.

The school reportedly claimed the trousers were “too tight”, and on Tuesday took Beth out of class to march her back to the shop the trousers came from

A shop worker was said to have told the teaching assistant who escorted Beth to the store: “She’s wearing the right ones, it’s just her just her shape,” the Plymouth Herald reported.

Beth was then allowed to return to class but when she arrived back at school a teacher allegedly told her: “They are the right material, but they don’t fit you right.”

Despite meeting with the headteacher, however, Ms Daw was told that Beth would continue to receive detentions until her trousers were changed.

Ms Daw says that because she lives on benefits she has no extra money to pay for the trousers to be replaced.

She also said the incident had made Beth self-conscious about her body.

“She’s being made to feel fat and she’s not,” Ms Daw told i on Wednesday. “In this day and age teenagers are all body conscious.

“My daughter has been saying she’s fat. She’s a size 10/12, so she’s not fat.

“I want my daughter to be proud of her shape, I can’t do anything about her thighs.

Ms Daw has urged the school to change their uniform policy and claimed hundreds of children had fallen foul of the rules since returning from the summer holidays.

“There are lots of parents who have to go and buy mens trousers for their kids because they can’t get them in the size,” she added.

Read more:

School uniform costs are on the rise and pupils’ parents are forced to turn to second-hand clothes

Ms Daw said she believes the school is now punishing Beth “for her parents’ misfortune” since she can’t afford to replace the trousers.

“I’ve always tried to abide by the uniform policy,” she continued. “It doesn’t matter what hurdles you jump, it just seems there’s always going to be something wrong.”

“She’s not embarrassed about her shape. She’s got wider thighs. She has had a lot of positive feedback from people she doesn’t even know.

“But we haven’t had an apology from school.”

i has contacted Queen Elizabeth School for comment.

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StressyDressyHeels · 13/09/2019 18:30

That’s terrible. That poor girl must be feeling awful. As pp said the same trousers won’t fit a girl who has matured and gained her curves.

heronontoast · 13/09/2019 18:30

'Then you approach the school and explain. Come up with a solution together' perhaps one that doesn't involve taking her out of lessons to march her to the uniform shop.

LinoleumBlownapart · 13/09/2019 18:30

The school took her to a clothing shop during school hours, over some flap about tight trousers!!!
Uniforms are a good idea but they shouldn't override a child's learning time, where's the common sense?

HeadintheiClouds · 13/09/2019 18:31

Maybe take them in at the waist, Sarah? Then let the seam out again when she grows? Confused.

MrsMaiselsMuff · 13/09/2019 18:31

The pic is on the Devon Live page. I'm completely against monopolising where you can buy uniform, but I doubt those trousers fit her properly last year either. The mum should have spoken to school, who may well have offered financial assistance to buy new, properly fitting trousers.

DNAwrangler · 13/09/2019 18:32

Plan = go to school and outline the problem. Bring pair of trousers that do fit plus school trousers. Ask them which she should wear, or they come up with a differnt solution.

The solution certainly isn't go to the media and make her apparently embarrassing problem public.

SarahTancredi · 13/09/2019 18:32

Yeah they can just use the change down the back of the sofa for alterations....

Justgivemesomepeace · 13/09/2019 18:34

Here we are again and here's my usual comment - schools absolutely baffle me. Only in schools would this be acceptable. Nowhere else would some one be treated like this. They demand respect yet treat young people with complete disrespect.

MrsMaiselsMuff · 13/09/2019 18:35

Looking at the school website, you can buy trousers elsewhere, but they do specify that skinny fit are not allowed.

This is a non story.

HelenaDove · 13/09/2019 18:35

The school pulled her out of lessons to march her to the shop. That is hardly reasonable behaviour on the part of the school How can you come up with a reasonable solution with a school that behaves like this.

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MouseInATelescope · 13/09/2019 18:35

As if they took her AWAY from her education to a clothes shop over this! How much lesson time has she missed because of it now? Is this even real? Because if this happened in the workplace there would/should be a huge harrassment in the workplace case filed.

SarahTancredi · 13/09/2019 18:40

Exactly helena

I mean why should people have to go and plead poverty and get locked into payment plans or whatever because a bunch if idiots who are supposed to know all about child development get surprised and enraged about the effects if puberty on the uniform
Its ridiculous

HelenaDove · 13/09/2019 18:40

Something similar happened to someone i know IN the workplace

A teenage daughter of a friend turned up to work with her blouse slightly creased. Assistant Manager threatened to make her remove the blouse and iron it there and then. Well known bedding store which underwent a name change a few years back.

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DNAwrangler · 13/09/2019 18:41

I'd love to hear the school's side on this.

Marching her to the shop sounds like a half truth at best. Students don't get randomly taken out of school by staff to go shopping. They just don't.

PickwickThePlockingDodo · 13/09/2019 18:46

Maybe take them in at the waist, Sarah? Then let the seam out again when she grows?

Like hundreds of parents do all over the country, every year, without going to the papers🤷‍♀️

And you don't have to spend money getting it professionally done, just a simple needle and thread should do it. I used to use that wonder web stuff on my DS's trousers to take them up as they were always too long. Everything is always such a drama these days.

PonderingPanda · 13/09/2019 18:48

DS school tried this last year and they were over £20 per pair. I was really miffed as l had kept all DS1 trousers for DS2.

I spoke to the deputy head at school and said how l felt and that l always abided by the uniform rules...and those that currently didn't, which was why there was this rule change - still wouldn't. He said he knew DS1 and his trousers were always correct...i.e not "fashion" ones and DS2 could wear them. I replied...and will all teachers agree on that or will he get penalised?

Couple of weeks later the rule was reversed.

I'm all for common sense ... but is it likely that the trousers are now just too small as she has grown since last year...

IHaveBrilloHair · 13/09/2019 18:48

Dd went to an excellent school with no uniform.
All of these rules around clothes are ridiculous.

EasyLifer · 13/09/2019 18:52

I work in a secondary school. Teachers, SLT and pastoral staff spend so much time trying to enforce inreasingly strict uniform requirements, it's exhausting just listening to it from the office. I would just give all the kids a tracksuit in school colours. Comfy, practical and uni sex.

PickwickThePlockingDodo · 13/09/2019 18:54

but they do specify that skinny fit are not allowed

What's the betting that this is the reason why she's got the smaller size? Fashion innit.
I know at my Dd's old school the girls wear the smaller sized skirt as it comes up shorter on the leg but it's still regulation schoolwear so they don't get told off.

SarahTancredi · 13/09/2019 18:56

It's not always the waist that's the problem. Or the length. And depending where the zips are or belt loops it doesnt always work. Plus schools can be just as picky .

Not every one can sew either.

Hoppinggreen · 13/09/2019 18:57

Dd has a size 4/6 waist and size 10 bum. She can only wear 1 skirt or trousers from 1 shop so I have had to pay an extra £15 per skirt off the bloody things to be tailored as they just weren’t wearable as they were.
So I can see how this girl might be having trouble, BUT I would be working with the school to find a solution rather then doing a local newspaper sad face and the school didn’t issue the trousers, they said where they had to be from, which isn’t the same

stucknoue · 13/09/2019 18:58

You cannot expect clothes from the previous year to still fit. School uniform is cheaper than ordinary clothes! Just been into new look, hardly an expensive shop and trousers were around £25 a pair.

SarahTancredi · 13/09/2019 19:06

Course you can stuck dd1 was in her age 7/8 school skirts fir 3 or 4 years. The next size up were too big.

All depends on the trousers. Even in the same pair there can be a huge difference between the sizes.

Amd clearly shes not alone given the article mentioned many parents falling foul and having to buy adult trousers "not permitted"

Dds last school trousers were a 9-10. The next size up was 11/12. Ine is too small. Too short. The other falls down, is miles too long and the crotch was hanging right down at that point where the seems would rub. They were also stupidly baggy around the hips/thighs. The outside. It would have taken more than some wonder web and a needle and thread to make them fit.

I was given a pair of trousers for a non once. They fitted so badly or not fitted I should say that rather than buy my own.smart black trousers they insisted they would pay to get them altered. Hmm when they were taken in to be altered my boss was told they couldn't be done. I ended up having to wear the skirt.

Not all trousers can be simply adjusted.

MemorialBeach · 13/09/2019 19:10

The Plymouth Live page has a further quote from the mum:
"She's fit and strong and I'm proud of her. She's not overweight. To get trousers big enough to have a crease, she would have to have a huge baggy waistband. We already have to take these ones in."
So seems the next up is far too big in the waist, and they already have altered the pair she has.

MemorialBeach · 13/09/2019 19:13

*next size up, not next up