Why is drag so popular now?

[Nothingcomesforfree]

Genuine question. I have seen lots of posts on a Facebook this morning about attending some drag queen event. Mostly women and several bringing their teens ( both sexes)

It seems really popular but I have no idea why or what people going get out of it? Is it comedic or fashion or something else.

There are a lot of posters on this thread who are claiming to be feminist but are very conservative, trying to protect femininity*

Trying to protect femininity? Femininity is at the heart of women's oppression, I would like to get rid of the idea of femininity completely.

Hate act
In your opinion. I don't see it like that.
You do.
Fair enough.

Some of you seem to have a big problem with freedom of expression. A lot of women (not me) enjoy their femininity.

Well, you don't think they can really if anything you don't agree with means they're only doing it because they don't know any better.

It might help if you could ever explain your actual reasoning.

Feel free to explain why 'Drag' isn't a grotesque parody of women.

In your own words would be good.

Some of you seem to have a big problem with freedom of expression. A lot of women (not me) enjoy their femininity.

You know Drag is men dressing up as women in a grotesque fashion and parodying them right? It's not a thing women actually do.

Hate act..In your opinion. I don't see it like that.

What do you see it as?

What’s good about drag?

I don't see it as a grotesque parody of women.
More like people wanting to express themselves, being true to them.
Some women find it offensive and that they're being laughed at. I dont.
Doesn't mean either of us are wrong .

I don't hate it, but i don't understand why its so celebrated all of a sudden, and i do think its equivalent of the black and white minstrels and gollywogs etc.

Loving the 'drag originated in Northern working men's clubs, so you can't criticise it and if you do you are obviously just an awful middle class mumsnetter' argument! 😂

So by that token, no one can criticise the comedy of the likes of Bernard Manning, or Roy Chubby Brown?

Purleeeeeeez.

It is parody but that isn’t necessarily grotesque or offensive. Female comedians often dress up as men.

“Female comedians often dress up as men.”

Do they? Who?

French and Saunders dressed up as men all the time.

Drag is absolutely vile, I can't stand it. So offensive to women. The bitchy queen schtick is very far removed from entertainment as far as I am concerned.

I'm amazed women attend these performances, they are the butt of the jokes.

As a further thought, I hate the way drag/porn have influenced the make up trends for young women, with the excessive shadowing, contouring and fake lashes the size of kites.

Not for me, thanks.

To play male characters, yes. And the impressionist Tracey Ulmann wears male clothes when she does men. Not quite the same!

More like people wanting to express themselves, being true to them.

If someone likes to 'express themselves' by dressing up as a totally exagerrated version of how society sees women, and playing up the most negative and bitchy aspects of society's view of women, alongside often quite aggressive and male centred sexual innuendo, then that tells me everything I need to know about them.

How come women aren't allowed to be offended by this? When women come out and say this stuff in public, they are written off as bigots and haters. Why don't people listen to women when they say 'I don't like this, I find it offensive'?

Misogyny is alive and kicking.

I don't see it as a grotesque parody of women.
More like people wanting to express themselves, being true to them

It's a shame that these men can only express themselves, and be true to themselves, by parodying women in such a vile way.

That’s not correct Betrand. French and Saunders dressed as overweight old men. How is that not a grotesque parody according to your logic?

I don't see it as a grotesque parody of women. More like people wanting to express themselves, being true to them

Beautiful, so true to themselves. Err...not

In what fucking world, is this ever not a grotesque parody of women?

If these men enjoy doing it and people, women included, enjoy it watching it, why should it be banned? That’s a genuine question.

If these men enjoy doing it and people, women included, enjoy it watching it, why should it be banned? That’s a genuine question.

What do you enjoy about it exactly?

“That’s not correct Betrand. French and Saunders dressed as overweight old men. How is that not a grotesque parody according to your logic?”

It depends. I don’t think I ever saw them. Did they have hugely enhanced sexual characteristics? Like massive testicles and penises?

sakrifice It’s not my thing but I am not offended by it.

It depends. I don’t think I ever saw them. Did they have hugely enhanced sexual characteristics? Like massive testicles and penises?

They dry humped the TV when Miss World was on. Dressed as old men. In cardigans and slacks.

No big balls or penises swinging.

I refer back to what I said about punching down when it comes to the balance of power. Women dressing as men don't hold the same power when parodying men, whatever the age and attractiveness of the men they are sending up. When F&S were dressing up as pervy old men shagging tabletops it was funny because on one level it was something we recognised, and on another level, men could dismiss as it didn't "represent" them.