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Why is drag so popular now?

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Nothingcomesforfree · 17/08/2019 09:43

Genuine question. I have seen lots of posts on a Facebook this morning about attending some drag queen event. Mostly women and several bringing their teens ( both sexes)

It seems really popular but I have no idea why or what people going get out of it? Is it comedic or fashion or something else.

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BertrandRussell · 18/08/2019 17:50

You know what we’re talking about?

howwudufeel · 18/08/2019 17:53

Betrand I haven’t said that offensive jokes are untouchable. I’m offended by racist jokes but if I were to sit through a drag act, I’d be bored rather than offended.

OneOfOurOwn · 18/08/2019 17:55

Don't get it. Especially when they don't even sing. Makes me think of the black and white minstrels.

Fraggling · 18/08/2019 18:00

It was roses who has no problem with the whole fish thing.

So that's 2 people who don't see why it's offensive which is pretty mind blowing to me.

Fraggling · 18/08/2019 18:01

Well I suppose lots of people don't find out offensive but they're usually men!

Fraggling · 18/08/2019 18:01

It not out

LadyOfTheCanyon · 18/08/2019 18:04

The hierarchy of oppression is very much a thing, as I think Fraggling made a point earlier. Heterosexual men at the top, then gay men ( because they still have male privilege). then trans women, then women, then lesbian women ( as the poor PPs daughter found out - that is just shocking behaviour.)
I know plenty of gay men, and I can assure you that a percentage of them have absolutely vile, reductive, misogynistic views about women. They fetishise our tits but then it's like "ugh...fannies!"

I have never seen drag and thought it was a cutesy, harmless "holding a mirror up to nature" form of expression. Drag queens by and large vilify women for the very things that make us women by making it grotesque.

It's interesting that 99% of drag is a pantomime version of femininity. If they dressed like Deborah from accounts in comfortable heels and a knee length skirt, nobody would be interested. The salaciousness comes from the sexualisation of 'what it means to be a woman.' Just because a large percentage of gay men think about dick all the time doesn't mean that you get to pass those tropes along onto women as brassy slags and slappers.

I find it hugely insulting - and completely analogous with Blackface.

RosesAndRaindrops · 18/08/2019 18:05

I didn't say I particularly find any fish jokes funny.
More eye rolling.
I'm not offended by them though.
I can understand why some people would be though.
I'm not though.

howwudufeel · 18/08/2019 18:07

Fraggling a huge amount of women watch drag every week. Funny Girls in Blackpool is very popular with women. I assume most of them enjoy the show and aren’t offended.

LadyOfTheCanyon · 18/08/2019 18:09

A lot of women have also internalised the expectation that they behave in a bitchy, callus, snidey way to other women. Internalised misogyny is very real.

howwudufeel · 18/08/2019 18:12

Credit women with some intelligent please.

LadyOfTheCanyon · 18/08/2019 18:12

If I credited women with some intelligence there wouldn't be such a thing as internalised misogyny.

howwudufeel · 18/08/2019 18:15

You really claim to say that every women who isn’t offended by drag is suffering from internalised misogyny? I don’t think so.

RosesAndRaindrops · 18/08/2019 18:15

Credit women with some intelligence please

Nah, some won't do that.
If you don't think the same it's the same patronising bollocks on here that you don't know any better, internalised misogyny. Like said up thread.
Heaven forbid women are allowed to think for themselves.

BertrandRussell · 18/08/2019 18:16

Actually, some women are quite openly misogynist- nothing internal
about it!

LadyOfTheCanyon · 18/08/2019 18:17

Yes , I think the vast majority of women have internalised the "divide and conquer" mentality that the patriarchy has set upon us as a sex. Why do the job yourself when you can just let women get on with tearing each other down? Job jobbed.

BertrandRussell · 18/08/2019 18:18

“Heaven forbid women are allowed to think for themselves“

Of course women can think for themselves. Can you explain to me why you like drag? What is it about it that appeals to you?

howwudufeel · 18/08/2019 18:20

Having a disagreement is hardly tearing each other down.

RosesAndRaindrops · 18/08/2019 18:21

Of course women can think for themselves
Well, you don't think they can really if anything you don't agree with means they're only doing it because they don't know any better.

BertrandRussell · 18/08/2019 18:24

“Well, you don't think they can really if anything you don't agree with means they're only doing it because they don't know any better”
I think some don’t know any better. I think some are doing it to please other people. I think some of them know what they are doing but they are wrong. I don’t think there is any way that a woman can watch and enjoy a show which is specifically designed to mock and degrade women and be right.

BertrandRussell · 18/08/2019 18:25

Why do you like drag?

JingsMahBucket · 18/08/2019 18:26

There are a lot of posters on this thread who are claiming to be feminist but are very conservative, trying to protect femininity and are just a couple steps away from being Serena Joy in The Handmaid’s Tale.

howwudufeel · 18/08/2019 18:28

I don’t mind drag and I am not remotely a feminine type.

LadyOfTheCanyon · 18/08/2019 18:29

I don't mean anything I have said as a personal attack -I am aware that I have some ideas about women's identity and role in society that I have to check with myself as I'm aware that they aren't helpful. But I think some posters who have replied in defence of drag honestly haven't thought through to its logical end, just how offensive it can be. People with power (men) punching down in any way is not a good look.

womaninthedark · 18/08/2019 18:31

Drag does not 'celebrate' femininity. See it as the hate-act it truly is. Notice the behaviour of drag artists, their comments, their mockery of born women. Open your eyes and ears.

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