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Why is drag so popular now?

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Nothingcomesforfree · 17/08/2019 09:43

Genuine question. I have seen lots of posts on a Facebook this morning about attending some drag queen event. Mostly women and several bringing their teens ( both sexes)

It seems really popular but I have no idea why or what people going get out of it? Is it comedic or fashion or something else.

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BertrandRussell · 18/08/2019 18:57

I can’t understand why it’s OK to be offended by the Minstrels and for it to be banned, but women aren’t allowed to be offended by drag and want it banned too.

RosesAndRaindrops · 18/08/2019 18:57

Why should it be banned
Presumably because as a woman you're only supposed to approve of a list of suitably deemed topics?
If some are offended we all are supposed to be offended too and it's all being done for our own good or something.
"As in ban cos I'm offended so nobody else is allowed to like it either."

howwudufeel · 18/08/2019 18:58

Bertrand They has huge bellies, man boobs, dirty clothes and talked about sex. They also had combovers. I think they once did a sketch with them naked and they had very small penises.

sackrifice · 18/08/2019 18:59

If some are offended we all are supposed to be offended too and it's all being done for our own good or something

What is it about drag that you particularly enjoy?

BertrandRussell · 18/08/2019 19:00

Why do you like it?

howwudufeel · 18/08/2019 19:03

Are you asking me? I don’t find it offensive but I wouldn’t seek it out. Where do we stop if we ban it? Men are banned from wearing dresses and make-up in case it offends a few women? That’s a hell of a slippery slope you are standing on the edge of.

Fraggling · 18/08/2019 19:06

Some other classics

1 example of women doing it means loads of men doing it all the time and much worse is fine. Otherwise known as the diet code ad

Women who object to drag are trying to hoard femininity and are threatened by men doing it (because they do it better? )

Women saying they don't like something means they want it banned

Did i miss any?

Fraggling · 18/08/2019 19:07

French and Saunders may of course have had an angle, to show men how unpleasant it is when you are stereotyped and mocked in that way.

I don't know, of course.

Men don't get mocked like that very often, thinking about it.

EverardDigby · 18/08/2019 19:28

The French and Saunders thing sounds pretty crap too, but then I don't like them anyway. There still aren't hundreds of women up and down the country in pubs and clubs imitating men on a Friday and Saturday night even if two successful women comedians are doing it.

Campervan69 · 18/08/2019 19:39

If these men enjoy doing it and people, women included, enjoy it watching it, why should it be banned? That’s a genuine question.

Same question people asked at the time they were campaigning to ban The Black and white Minstrel Show.

What do you enjoy about it exactly?

eurochick · 18/08/2019 19:44

It's woman face. I find it offensive.

I have no idea why it's so popular at the moment. Lack of critical thinking and a desire to appear "woke" perhaps?

BertrandRussell · 18/08/2019 19:50

Of all the “well women do it too”s I heard, justifying drag by citing French and Saunders is probably the biggest stretch!

howwudufeel · 18/08/2019 19:55

So now all the people who don’t find it offensive are stupid Smile

RosesAndRaindrops · 18/08/2019 19:58

It was asked if women had dressed up as men unfavourably and "mocked" them.
So somebody answered, yes they have.
In the form of combovers, small penises etc.
What's that then if not mocking them?
Or is it because they're men so it doesn't matter, they can't ever be upset by default?
As I said it must boil down to if you see yourself as an oppressed, little victim just by being a woman.
I don;t.

MsTSwift · 18/08/2019 20:00

Lots of people chortled away at the black and white minstrel show and Bernard manning Benny Hill etc. Tastes change (evolve) over time - one hopes anyway.
Personally would think any woman that really enjoyed drag was either abit dim or hadn’t thought it through.

gamerwidow · 18/08/2019 20:01

why do I like drag
It’s a celebration women’s right not to be ‘nice’. A celebration of the women who have looked at societies expectations for them and said ‘fuck this’. Look at those artists chosen by female impersonators to emulate they are women who’ve been told they’re not good enough, that they should act their age, that they should tone down, that they’re nothing without their partners etc. It’s about being who you are without compromise when society says you should hideaway and conform.
Gay men don’t traditionally come from a position of power. To be openly gay was to be mocked, assaulted and discriminated against. That’s why they looked to mimic those strong women who did not compromise. Those women who took what the world said about them and fuck you and did their hair bigger and wore their heels higher. It’s a celebration of female misbehaviour and subversiveness.

RosesAndRaindrops · 18/08/2019 20:05

It’s about being who you are without compromise when society says you should hideaway and conform

Absolutely this

Propertyofhood · 18/08/2019 20:06

It’s a celebration women’s right not to be ‘nice’. A celebration of the women who have looked at societies expectations for them and said ‘fuck this’. Look at those artists chosen by female impersonators to emulate they are women who’ve been told they’re not good enough, that they should act their age, that they should tone down, that they’re nothing without their partners etc. It’s about being who you are without compromise when society says you should hideaway and conform.

Wuh? Confused

It's not women doing it?

Which particular women, as in specifically, are being 'celebrated' here? By gay men?

BertrandRussell · 18/08/2019 20:10

“ It’s about being who you are without compromise when society says you should hideaway and conform.“

Blimey. What sort of women are you talking about?

SpamChaudFroid · 18/08/2019 20:10

People think it's funny to see men parodying women. I find it offensive, like blackface

This is also how I feel.

Propertyofhood · 18/08/2019 20:11

Gay men don’t traditionally come from a position of power. To be openly gay was to be mocked, assaulted and discriminated against. That’s why they looked to mimic those strong women who did not compromise. Those women who took what the world said about them and fuck you and did their hair bigger and wore their heels higher. It’s a celebration of female misbehaviour and subversiveness.

Ah yes, because females being string, 'misbehaving' and overcoming adversity is all about wearing high heels and having nice hair. For fucks sake....

MsTSwift · 18/08/2019 20:11

The real heroes are women who achieve and are themselves without the weird props patriarchy insists upon (make up big hair heels revealing dress). Fiona Kolbinger for example. Google her. Not a scrap of make up required.

Propertyofhood · 18/08/2019 20:11

Strong not string!

BertrandRussell · 18/08/2019 20:12

“t was asked if women had dressed up as men unfavourably and "mocked" them.
So somebody answered, yes they have.
In the form of combovers, small penises etc.
What's that then if not mocking them?”
Well, yes it is mocking them and I don’t care much for that either. But two things. It’s kicking up not down. And it’s two individual performers from some time ago. Not a genre.

EverardDigby · 18/08/2019 20:16

If these men enjoy doing it and people, women included, enjoy it watching it, why should it be banned? That’s a genuine question.

I don't think anything should be "banned" but as a young lesbian in a small city outside London iis crap when the only "lesbian" and gay place you can go has misogynistic entertainment that makes it feel like a hostile place.