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Is 4 lager cans a night, 7 days a week ‘usual’ for men, or a concern?

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Weymo · 13/08/2019 13:44

My new husband drinks 4 cans of beer a night, 7 nights a week, every week. Usually Carling “because it’s only weak”, he says.

If there’s birthday whisky in the house he’ll follow with a glass of that each night too until the bottle is drained by the end of the week.

He’s started buying a bottle of Cava for Friday nights. I’ll have one half glass, he’ll have the rest.

He’ll also buy cider and make a lager and cider concoction.

I grew up with an alcoholic grandmother so have a poor attitude to alcohol as I’ve seen what it does to people. Consequently I rarely have a drink, I don’t like the taste or effects of alcohol anyway fortunately.

Is drinking 4 cans every night, 7 days a week, ‘usual’ for most men?

We’ve just got back from holiday and I know it’s holidays and all that, but even then he’d always have one or two beers with his evening meal without fail, and the Cava made a show too.

What piques my concern, is like my Gran who used to hide her alcohol (always in daft places like the cistern, sink cupboard, behind bath panel, outside gas cupboard...) he has started to only bring his cans of beer in as I put the kids to bed at night. I hear the car alarm and sure enough despite being home for some hours, he’ll only fetch it in when I’m out of the room.

He also leaves one can on the side, as if to suggest when I see it in the morning he’s only had one can all night, despite the other 4 or 5 being in the bin.

We have talked about this of course. First off he said it’s nothing to worry about, then said he’ll cut back. He didn’t drink anything for 2 nights in a row, then it went back to normal.

Really though, is 4 cans a night that big a deal? Or is it something I need to discuss with him again?

OP posts:
user1480880826 · 26/08/2019 19:23

I would consider that much alcohol to be a problem. It will be doing his health real damage. He has an alcohol dependence if he’s drinking every day and he’s not giving his liver any opportunity to repair itself.

Any who mixes lager and cider?! And cava!

He needs to get some help.

Weymo · 26/08/2019 20:52

@ineedaholidaynow yes he opens his first can after the kids have gone to bed.

In the fridge tonight is one bottle of Cava. He won’t open that unless I say I’ll have some though.
4 pack of cider and 2 Carling. He mixes the cider and Carling together.

Maybe I ought to ask my doctor for advice next time I see him. The trouble with Mumsnet or any online forum really is it’s useful to get opinions, but they’re sometimes over dramatic, or uninformed, and here most posters are saying he’s drinking too much, and he’s telling me he isn’t, so it’s confusing.

Maybe my doctor can agree he’s due another health check-up (due to his heart attack a few years ago he was meant to have bi-annual I think blood pressure and bloods checks, but he hasn’t as far as I know) and can advise my husband’s doctor that he’s drinking too much ....but that’s if husband gives the correct alcohol consumption.

OP posts:
lastqueenofscotland · 26/08/2019 21:06

I drink a lot and I think drinking daily is a massive issue. The carling because it’s weak is minimising it too and that’s concerning

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cushioncovers · 26/08/2019 22:27

It's the fact that he has to drink everyday and can't leave it alone that is the biggest problem imo op.

My exh was the same, it wasn't how much he drunk everyday but the fact that he had to have it and would get aggressive if he couldn't. He has drunk alcohol everyday for over 20 years now.
It cost us lot of money. And left him in a constant 'tipsy' state which meant he would fall asleep the minute he sat down on an evening or weekend.

Every single family outing or holiday had to revolve around visiting a pub or me driving so he could have a beer. He never missed an opportunity to have a night out with his mates and would always come home pissed and skint. Then be hungover the following day. He was constantly belching and farting because the beer/lager was gassy.

Individually none of those things seem problematic but put them all together it becomes a big problem.

ineedaholidaynow · 26/08/2019 22:50

What time does he stop drinking at night?

Surely OP you can work out that he drinks much more than the recommended units every week, and therefore drinks too much. Especially when he has had health issues

EllaEllaE · 26/08/2019 23:53

Getting the doctor to talk to him about it is a really good idea. Hopefully it will help you too, to have some expert advice.

Is there any way you can tell the doctor yourself how much he drinks? Go with him to the appointment? Maybe discuss beforehand how, if he really isn't concerned at all about how much he's drinking, he doesn't have anything to fear from being 100% honest with the doctor.

fwiw, part of being an alcoholic is that excessive amounts of alcohol no longer have the same effect. So the fact he can drink so much, yet not 'appear' drunk, doesn't mean he hasn't drunk much. Rather, it's evidence that his body has adapted to him being perpetually drunk. There's a really amazing book about addiction called "Never Enough" that explains why this happens. It has a chapter on alcohol. (Here's a radio interview about it, for a short version.)

Itsallchange · 27/08/2019 19:31

Honestly op only you can decide if this is affecting your family, if he doesn’t see it as a problem why would he need to tell the gp a lie about the amount he had drunk? If it’s not a problem for you that’s all that matters not what we think, the guidelines suggest it’s too much and there would possibly be an impact on his health, you don’t have to be an expert to know this, but if you and him are happy to accept this then it’s what works for your family. I wasn’t happy and didn’t want my children to see this as the norm, my XH didn’t drink a large amount most days but he drunk every available day, the only time he didn’t was when he was working a night shift. I would also always be the designated driver when ever we went out even for my birthday! But ultimately it’s what feels right for you lovely x

xTracyx · 29/03/2020 00:35

Hi I found your post while looking for advice about my partner and his drinking.
But I do realise he has a big problem..
He normally drinks a minimum of 8 cans a night.
This week he has had about 50 cans of larger through the whole week from Saturday to Saturday.
I did walk out on him in December for a week and he promised to cut down/stop if I came back.
He did for a while now he's drinking again what he used to drink before.
I'm at the end of my teather.
I don't want to bring it up and argue as I really love him to bits and I don't want to lose him.
I feel like I'm between the devil and the deep blue sea.
We have been together 18 years but I don't want him to continue drinking.
I just don't like confrontation so I just sit back and shut up (if you know what I mean).
I'm so scared of either losing him because we have argued about him drinking.
Or the alcohol killing him xx Confused

Yellowshirt · 29/03/2020 00:47

@StoatofDisarray. 3 pints is about 4 cans of carling.

Wisheverydaywasfriday · 29/03/2020 11:30

He’s doing all the things my DH did. Hidden, supplementary bottle of wine, in the garage, behind the bookcase etc... the ‘allowed’ amount sitting out. Topping up when I was out of sight... Promises to cut back, but this never lasted. Constant denials of how much he’d had....

He started to drink earlier and earlier, all whilst still working successfully.

The signs are there OP. (DH now 6 years sober, doing AA)

Good luck.

ElGuardiandenoche · 29/03/2020 15:52

@xTracyx if I were you I would start your own thread because people will just read the OP and answer and talk about that so you will get lost.

Lynda07 · 29/03/2020 16:02

There's no 'usual'. Some men hardly ever or never drink, some socially only or whilst on holiday, others drink a lot more than your husband.

Up to two x 1.4 pints of beer a day is fine for men, half that for women according to NHS guidelines. A bottle of cava between you at the weekend isn't going to hurt.

Just try to be sure that your husband doesn't drink more than he says he does or increase it. However, whatever he may say, there really is no 'usual'. I'd say heavy drinking is not, nor has ever been, unusual in young chaps, students and those just starting work, young women/girls too, but they usually outgrow it.

JamesBlonde1 · 29/03/2020 16:03

It's called excessive alcohol consumption. It's damaging in all respects.

Lynda07 · 29/03/2020 16:19

Yellowshirt Sun 29-Mar-20 00:47:32
@StoatofDisarray. 3 pints is about 4 cans of carling.
.......

That is quite a lot for every night. I'd have thought have two at most. Carling is very cheap though.

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