Child thrown from 10th floor at Tate Modern

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47214207

Who would do something like this? Scary.

*people

You could just be reporting someone who for various reasons is a little intense, a little bit ‘off’ and you would probably not be taken seriously. In most cases there wouldn’t be any cause for concern. I don’t blame her for not reporting his behaviour. Her shock at what his motives were proved to be was obvious in the initial news report I saw.

My OH friend female works in a house of men who are in the care of the community it is run by a private company, supposed to be a ratio of carers to inmates. In reality she was often left alone at night. They were free to go the pub, buy drugs etc. her husband made her quit the job. One thing that amazed us was despite the home being all found they were given the winter fuel allowance, which they used to buy booze drugs until it ran out.

My heart goes out to the little boy and his family and I sincerely hope he makes a recovery. What a tragedy for them.

I know this will likely increase fear in some people about those with serious mental illness but statistically, people with mental illness are more likely to be victims of crimes than perpetrators. I hope people won’t feel scared of those with mental illness in general especially psychotic disorders. This troubled young man will now likely to go to a secure setting for much more intensive support and attempted rehabilitation.

Schuyler it’s a very obvious statistic, a large number of crimes are committed by people with mental illness, someone in their right mind would not commit such a crime . Mental illness is such a horrid thing, psychosis and schizophrenia are awful ,having no control over your own mind, not knowing what’s real and what isn’t, it can also be very dangerous, many people end up taking their own lives or end up in secure units as they are a risk to others. The problem being most mental health units have been closed down as it was decided that people should be cared for in the community, although this is great for most people and works well there are also people that just can’t be cared for in the community.

I read early that he wasn’t in his mother’s arms . He was a few feet in front of his parents when he was picked up and thrown over.

Careful, or @Pieceofpurplesky will be along to get offended about this all over again.

What a terribly sad incident. If he was living where he was being monitored then something has gone wrong why was he taken out, had he not taken his meds, to suddenly become so agitated when taking medication can happen but it’s usually a build up there will be signs all isn’t right before (this could be down to drug/alcohol use, not taking medication, changed in medication, lack of sleep) and if something doesn’t seem quite right someone who is needing 2:1 escorting simply shouldn’t be going out

There will be a full investigation and rightly so

Having seen some of the workers employed by mh units (NHS and private) I am not surprised he was able to give them the slip

Many work incredibly hard many I wouldn’t trust to look after a goldfish

Disturbed he'd been out with 2 carers around London and he gave them the slip and went to the Tate himself...of his own accord.n But you are right. HOW did one young man give two carers the slip?

A truly awful story and my thoughts are with the child and his family.

God, I'd forgotten what a cesspit Twitter is, though. So many people fantasizing about personally torturing the teenage boy in gruesome ways, or demanding the death penalty for him regardless of whatever might come out about his capacity/ mental health (i.e. they openly wouldn't care if he turned out to be suffering from psychosis or not to have known what he was doing; they just want the government to "put him down" anyway). So many people using the case as a justification for walloping little kids (apparently one young person committing an unimaginable act proves that young people today are all feral monsters and we need to go back to caning them in schools). So many racists wailing about the race of the attacker not being mentioned in news reports because they're slavering for him to be an immigrant. I guess this mob mentality was always there and social media just makes it more visible?

Heartfelt sympathy for the little boy and his family. That's all that's needed right now.

Some of the language on here too is nasty

The man is ill, he carried out the act but something in his care had gone seriously wrong and they too are responsible

A young child is very seriously ill because of inadequate care

Yep his care has gone seriously wrong, he should be locked up and not be allowed out into the public domain.

he should be locked up and not be allowed out into the public domain.

Forever? Even if he reaches a point of stability in the future?

His stability may be down to his meds. once released who makes sure he takes them. The side effects make it tempting to give them a miss.

Justasking111

There can be a middle ground though! Somewhere he is properly supervised and managed. It has clearly gone seriously seriously wrong somewhere but until it's clear how, why and when he got away from his support staff I really don't believe anyone can say just lock him up and throw away the key.

My mother worked in this field when there were mental hospitals, if you heard what she had experienced you would not be as generous or liberal in your attitude. Madness, evil it really makes no difference they are a danger to the public.

I expect before much longer the gallery will be closed and floor to ceiling glass will be installed to provent anyone else either doing the same or deciding to end it all there.

I hope you're never mentally ill but, if you ever are, I hope your carers don't treat you with such a vile attitude as the one you're displaying here.

Some of the language on here too is nasty

The man is ill, he carried out the act but something in his care had

I agree and he isn’t actually a man he is a mentally ill teenager. If he was the victim the press would be calling him a “ teenage boy” not a man.

justasking111 I do work in this area

Madness I am assuming you mean having a mental health diagnosis or when someone is psychotic. Evil do you mean psychopaths? No it’s not the same and it does make all the difference in how they can progress

Many young people who have carried out violent attacks and have had a mental health diagnosis (often not treated before as not yet been diagnosed) progress though many will always have a level of monitoring they do not need to be locked up forever they are not animals and not one or them i have worked with has had a fair chance since a young age

Though agree some people are simply too ill to not have very heavy monitoring but that does not mean they should be behind locked bars for all of their life very very few people deserve this

It is far more likely to be a serious lack of adequate care that has led to this

MyDcAreMarvel yes you right he isn’t a man he is still a child makes it all more tragic

www.gofundme.com/medical-funds-for-tate-tragedy

There's a gofundme page now for the little boy and his family. Just thought I'd post in case anyone wants to donate (I didn't set the page up, just saw it on twitter).

I still feel so shocked and sad about this

I think the weed around now is causing a lot of this trouble in developing brains

Patroclus

There is no absolute proof but it can’t be ignored so many young people are admitted with drug psychosis and suffer from long term effects from smoking cannabis

@pennypineapple I imagine the family have travel insurance which will cover costs.

I would imagine the sort of family that take their children to the Tate modern would definitely have travel insurance