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Child thrown from 10th floor at Tate Modern

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ineedaholidaynow · 04/08/2019 20:40

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47214207

Who would do something like this? Scary.

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origamiunicorn · 06/08/2019 06:23

Wasn't it in Germany last week that a mother and child were thrown in front of an oncoming train by a complete stranger too?

Yes and a child was thrown over a shopping mall balcony too recently in the States 🙁

Soola · 06/08/2019 08:39

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7324759/Tate-Modern-pusher-scarily-intelligent-mental-patient-slipped-away-minders.html

*The 17-year-old - who cannot be named for legal reasons - is thought to suffer from schizophrenia and is normally only allowed out of a secure home when accompanied by two carers.

A former carer who worked with the young man, told The Sun: 'He's one of the most difficult and challenging mental patients I've ever encountered.

'He suffers from schizophrenia and has a tendency towards violence. He is stockily built — about 5ft 10in tall — and gets angry when he is denied something that he wants or is told what to do. He's not allowed out unless accompanied by at least two support staff.*

The minders need to be investigated.

noodlenosefraggle · 06/08/2019 08:47

That is horrifying. Whoever was in charge of him definitely needs to be sanctioned.I work with non violent adults who need to be supervised at all times. If I let one of them go, I 'd be reprimanded very harshly, and they are only a danger to themselves.

Fragalino · 06/08/2019 09:06

However the fuck do yiu explain what happened to that small boy, the utter shock of one min in mums arms the next flung over the side.
Lots of places have that annoying but life saving wire gauze.

GiveMeAllTheGin8 · 06/08/2019 13:14

So is the teenage boy visiting from France or living in uk with carers ?

AnxietyDream · 06/08/2019 13:22

I think it's the victim who is french, not the attacker.

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 06/08/2019 13:25

I read early that he wasn’t in his mother’s arms . He was a few feet in front of his parents when he was picked up and thrown over. Happened so fast no one had time to stop it

CarolDanvers · 06/08/2019 13:27

If you look at where he was thrown from it looks like it sloped down at an angle. I wonder if his fallen was broken a few times by the slope? I'm so glad he's recovering and that it wasn't from the other side, there would have been no hope then. Poor boy and Mum.

Justaboy · 06/08/2019 14:19

Yes Caroldanvers this is what I said the other day it was sloped the bit where he fell from so he would have been slowed down before the final impact.

As said anything at all that can absorb the energy is a very welcome thing. I has said in the news that he has a fractured spinne and legs plus a brain bleed that could with the spine be very damaging, we'll have to see what the long term outcome for him will be but at least he's still alive and thats not a bad outcome in itself!.

Can't help but think what pain his poor mum and dad are going through:(

IAskTooManyQuestions · 06/08/2019 14:23

@noodlenosefraggle Whoever was in charge of him definitely needs to be sanctioned

Sanctioned? It was all in the blink of an eye. We've not reverted to physical restraints for the mentally ill in public

MarthasGinYard · 06/08/2019 14:39

Spinal injuries
Broken limbs and a 'deep brain bleed'

I hope he's going to recover Sad

Lovemusic33 · 06/08/2019 14:49

Soola I had a feeling this would be the case. I work in mental health specifically with people with schizophrenia, I won’t go into too much details but I see the potential for this happening due to not enough support given to people who are severely mentally ill, a person like this should have at least 2:1 at all times when out but sadly this isn’t often provided. Something went seriously wrong for something like this to happen but sadly it’s doesn't surprise me Sad, it’s one of the reasons i want to leave my job and probably one of the reasons why there is a shortage of people working in mental health.

I really do hope the child makes a full recovery though he’s going to be mentally scarred for life and so will his mother having to witness her child being so seriously injured. The mother isn’t to blame, he’s 6 years old and I’m sure we all allow are children to wonder a few feet from us, she thought it was a safe place as most of us would have, how was she to know that someone was going to do such a shocking thing to her child?

MyDcAreMarvel · 06/08/2019 14:54

Sanctioned? It was all in the blink of an eye. We've not reverted to physical restraints for the mentally ill in public
No he gave his carers the slip hours previously.

Soola · 06/08/2019 14:55

The six-year-old French boy grabbed from his mother and hurled from the top of the Tate Modern suffered a 'deep bleed to the brain' and broke his spine, legs and arms in the fall, a court heard today.

Soola · 06/08/2019 15:02

The teenager accused of attacking the child tourist was tearful in the dock at Bromley Magistrates' Court this morning as he was accused of attempted murder at London's top gallery on Sunday.

The teenager appeared confused and tearful as he spoke only to confirm name, age and British nationality.

........

Not an act of evilness then but from the perspective of an ill mind if he’s schizophrenic.

If proven that he was known to be violent then being allowed out with only two caters is irresponsible.

A deranged young man will be extremely powerful and determined.

That poor little boy is a victim of awful circumstance.

Lovemusic33 · 06/08/2019 15:03

Sanctioned? It was all in the blink of an eye. We've not reverted to physical restraints for the mentally ill in public I’m sorry but if he was unsafe to be out in public and has shown signs of aggression he shouldn’t have been taken to a busy family place where there’s a chance he could hurt someone. Yes mentally ill people deserve to go out but I don’t think this was the place to take him. With my job I have to consider every possibility when taking a mentally ill client out, I tend to avoid busy places and places where there are children because at the end of the day I am not only looking after the client but I am responsible for the safety of others around them. Schizophrenia is a very complex condition and not all people with the condition are safe to be out in public even with carers.

Just such a sad story Sad

MyDcAreMarvel · 06/08/2019 15:06

Nobody took him to the Tate he gave his carers the slip and went there himself.

blueiris71 · 06/08/2019 15:30

this story has affected me very much. It's chilled me to the core. For some reason, when I've been in high up places with my children, I've always had a morbid fear of them being pushed or thrown off by someone. I have no idea why. I hate going to a great height with my youngest, who is the same age as this boy. I thought it was a totally irrational fear of mine, but reading this repair makes me wonder.

compulsiveliar2019 · 06/08/2019 15:40

I think until the circumstances are established as to how come he was out in public and unsupervised it is impossible and unfair to start throwing blame at the care staff.
I'm sure those who were involved with his care will be feeling terrible enough.

MsJRMEsq · 06/08/2019 15:57

*The 47-year-old from Rochdale was so alarmed that she warned her children to avoid him.

She said: 'He followed us around everywhere. I told my kids to stay away from that man, it went on for ages. He was acting so weird. He had his hands behind his back the whole time, his back to the wall, just watching people. *

Why the hell didn't she alert security?

Venger · 06/08/2019 15:58

I thought it was a totally irrational fear of mine, but reading this repair makes me wonder.

Why? It's a horrific incident for sure but it is also highly unusual and not something that frequently happens. Even the similar news stories of the woman and child in Germany and the child in America are isolated incidents, they're made all the more shocking by how uncommon they are.

Normal vigilance and commonsense is all that is needed when taking children to high places.

coconuttelegraph · 06/08/2019 16:05

Why the hell didn't she alert security?

I would guess because it's not most people's assumption that someone who looks and behaves out of the ordinary is a danger to the public. Can you categorically say you would have reported him to a security guard, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have done, you know what they say about hindsight. You can't blame the other visitors imo

Supersimpkin · 06/08/2019 16:11

The attacker did have two carers, so there was the 2:1 ratio required for dangerous patients.

He gave them the slip.

origamiunicorn · 06/08/2019 17:26

Why the hell didn't she alert security?

I know what you're saying but I'd be reporting price every week if I reported every odd/suspicious looking person.