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Cost of making eastenders..

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Whisky2014 · 01/06/2019 23:11

I just wondered how much it costs to make Eastenders and after just clicking a few articles on this I have found it to be about £140k per episode...£30 million a year.

Not only that, but the BBC had a £60 Million budget to upgrade the set and they have managed to go £27 million over this bringing it to £87 million and to be completed by 2023, 5 years late.
"MPs heard the set, built in 1984, is “no longer fit for purpose” and the rebuild is “crucial to the future success of EastEnders"

Well, sorry but it's absolute brain rot and if rather it didn't have a future! I'd much rather they made some good quality series. If they put their mind to it, the BBC can make some really good stuff. Why do they insist on shoving this crap down people's throats? Viewing numbers have been decreasing, I assume because of the younger generations being more inclined to watch stuff on Amazon and Netflix etc, so this revamp seems like even more of a waste. Confused

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Whisky2014 · 02/06/2019 19:23

Haha omg I think hell would freeze over before he watched it. In fact, I think he thinks the stuff I watch is brain rot. He IS a scientist so maybe it is haha.

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Whisky2014 · 02/06/2019 19:25

Processedpea I doubt it will. People's lives are busier and busier and the dynamic of watching tv is changing plus the generations of people who watch it religiously will be dying off. I think itll bave 15 to 20 yeaes max. We shall see!

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Whisky2014 · 02/06/2019 19:29

No I like tv I just don't watch it loads. Some people watch hours and hours a day? I watch maybe an hour a day and not all days..
I have 1 thread and posted about 15 times. Hardly "obsessive". Hmm

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SoupDragon · 02/06/2019 19:49

Can you name any quiz shows, documentaries, dramas that are shown as much as eastenders and have run for as long as eastenders and are made by the BBC?

There have been loads more of those though. There actually aren't that many soaps. If you looked at the balance of genres over all, it would probably be fairly even. Almost like they are providing variety...

LookImAHooman · 02/06/2019 19:51

I wonder if they'd be so extravagant if they didn't have licence funds, but had to rely on making a profit?

Covered multiple times upthread. BBC Worldwide. Look it up.

But yes, I guess I will have to just stop using BBC and I expect others will too. That's the only way to bring about real change

I’ve just got this bizarre notion that whatever your opinion, the BBC, with resources and tech and qualified teams and agencies, know their audiences better than you do. It’s crazy talk, I realise. I’m sorry.

Supply and demand. It’s called supply and demand. I don’t get how whyyou don’t won’t get this. Really.

Yah, so blue Peter aimed at kids and newsnight...woo
Kids clearly not being worth of or benefitting from quality broadcasting, rounded off with an indisputably well-reasoned argument there of ‘woo’. Have you been on the whisky since this thread started or do you just really need the documentaries education you so crave? Is this all just projecting, Whisky? Poor Whisky.

CruellaFeinberg · 02/06/2019 19:56

wow imagine if you didnt have to watch everything that was on the TV? theres loads of shit i have never watched, TOWIE, Love Island, the painting thing (cant imagine anything more tedious)

and you know what, i dont watch it, i dont bitch about it from my imaginary snobby tower pretending i am better than everyone else for not watching something on the TV

LarryGreysonsDoor · 02/06/2019 20:29

Because when we switch the tv on it seems to just go to a random tv channel before we can click the app for Amazon or Netflix.

So in the one hour a day you manage to see a flash of Eastenders and that is enough for you to call for it to be cancelled?

Whisky2014 · 02/06/2019 20:45

So in the one hour a day you manage to see a flash of Eastenders and that is enough for you to call for it to be cancelled? wtf are people going on about this for? For something that is on all pretty often and for so long you really think I've just never seen any of it? I've seen enough to know I hate it and don't know what's difficult to accept about that.

Have you been on the whisky since this thread started or do you just really need the documentaries education you so crave? Is this all just projecting, Whisky? Poor Whisky. fucking he'll I wish I was on the whisky. I'm pregnant and moody and today isn't a good day.

I get people like it, I don't get why! I don't know why it has to be on 4 nights a week...would it be so bad to have 2 episodes rather than 4? Meh.

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MyOtherProfile · 02/06/2019 20:50

But the point being, we all like different things

But the OP is superior and therefore we should watch things she likes so we don't get brain rot. Plus her husband is a scientist. Double whammy. These two alone should decide what is good enough for the rest of us to watch.

Perhaps then we could start on which books people are allowed to read. Probably best to get rid of any chick lit for a start and stick with heavy tomes.

By the way I'm married to a scientist too. He watched Ender's and Corrie when I met him. He saw it as chance to let his brain relax after a day of thinking. Best tell him about the brain rot.

gamerchick · 02/06/2019 20:52

Well it's a good job you don't get the final say then. Grin

I'm just more amused you're on here where you spend a lot of your time complaining about a telly program that millions like to watch.

Some could say SM is a waste of time and rots your brain and yet here you are..... Wink

Sorry you've had a sucky day, I hope tomorrow you are full of the joys.

Whisky2014 · 02/06/2019 21:49

SM is brain rot too. Definitely. And I've been actively deciding to use my phone less and do more thing's and so far it's been really good. But not today. Today is a write off.

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Whisky2014 · 02/06/2019 21:50

Best tell him about the brain rot I'm sure he is aware. It's hardly rocket science..

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LarryGreysonsDoor · 02/06/2019 23:27

wtf are people going on about this for? For something that is on all pretty often and for so long you really think I've just never seen any of it? I've seen enough to know I hate it and don't know what's difficult to accept about that.

I’ve managed to not see any of it since about 2002.
There are a lot of programs that I’ve not watched and I think are most likely not the kind of thing I want to watch.
It doesn’t mean I call for them to be cancelled.

Given that you don’t seem to watch tv why don’t you just cancel your tv licence and then you won’t have to see any of it or froth that money is being spent on it.

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 03/06/2019 00:55

The one time I caught a few minutes of it recently two men were having a fight in a graveyard My sensitive 7yo ran out the room. It's vile and depressing and at the very least should be on after the watershed

OkPedro · 03/06/2019 01:17

There are so many shows I don’t watch but I don’t feel the need to tell others that they are shite. I find this opinion bizarre. I don’t watch towie, made in chelsea or that art show you mentioned op so I can’t possibly comment if they are shite or not. You claim to not watch Eastenders yet you “know” it’s shite from catching a minute or two of it while you’re switching channels. You’re taking the mickey 😉

Graphista · 03/06/2019 02:33

I stopped watching as a result of the baby swap/SIDS death storyline which I personally didn't agree with.

But I watched other soaps for a bit longer before quitting watching a few years ago as I was getting bored by them, having watched for many years and seen the same storylines repeatedly rehashed - there's an adage among writers that there's only 7 basic plots anyway and that every narrative will be a variation on one of these - I found that once I knew this I couldn't "unknow" it

I occasionally wonder about dipping back in but I think I'd be confused and I can't be arsed.

However, I can understand the appeal to many and I do appreciate the economic and "training ground" aspects.

I once read in a magazine about a job I'd not heard of until then - character archivist - the job was to maintain accurately a "file" of character details like dob, cv, relatives (inc those only mentioned) etc in order to maintain a realistic and accurate history of the characters. It honestly sounded like my dream job! And frankly at the time I knew I could do a better job than whoever was doing it on a couple of the soaps I watched at the time - very annoying when it's "forgotten" that a character has already had their appendix out, or been married (even if briefly) etc 😂

As a wannabe writer (yea yea aren't we all) and also when I was studying the media aspect of my degree I am still very impressed by the quality and quantity of writing.

2 hours a week - which is a long feature film - is a LOT Of writing, writing for tv/film/radio also has the constraints of regulation (for decency, time slot etc), timing (which I believe is pretty much to hr second - I can't begin to imagine how you know how long a piece of script will take in performance time to the exacting standards here, I wrote a few short scripts again as part of my degree and we had time rules - min and max - and wow the amount of editing needed to get it right!)

Some incredibly writers started out on soaps and went on to even more success - Jimmy McGovern started on brookside off the top of my head.

And they do get people talking and thinking about big issues.

I was doing my nurse training when Todd carty came in as a HIV positive mark fowler. I certainly noticed that character changing people's perceptions and views on HIV and AIDS.

They've also led to great uptake in certain health screening programmes and have contributed to more open and accepting attitudes on things like gay marriage.

They both reflect and influence wider society.

It's not just informing people of the existence of social issues, it helps them to relate to and sympathise Possibly even empathise with people going through those issues. Which can break down bigotry and prejudice, as well as being informative.

Snobbery of any kind is limiting, there's value in just about every aspect of life to deny that is to live a very narrow minded and restricted existence and cuts you off from learning and possibly enjoying things you have ruled out (and I can be guilty of this on occasion too but I'm aware of it - eg I won't watch breaking bad as I don't like watching things that remotely sympathise with drug dealers having seen too many loved ones lives destroyed and in one case lost as a result of drug addiction)

I know plenty of very well educated, very intellectual people who love soaps, sitcoms, cheesy pop music and daft panel shows. They still also enjoy opera, lectures on physics, economics etc, Chekhov, ba jin, Tolstoy etc

"because it's on so much" 2 hours out of 168 a week is not that much.

Personally I think there's far too much bloody sport on telly! But again there's a lot of people enjoy it and that's why it is.

I'm also not really a fan of wildlife programmes - but admittedly that's likely due to being made to watch them as a child.

There's a good variety on uk tv, it's certainly better than in many other countries!

We only really see the very best of USA tv, my family over there are forever moaning its crap.

When I lived in Europe (which generally I loved) there was an awful lot of folk music and folk dancing programmes and programmes like a whole hour on whittling!

Tons of ads too in other countries.

Here we have excellent period dramas, crime dramas, news and current affairs shows, quiz shows and irreverent comedy.

"If Whisky is from Scottish, let's not even get started on the TOTAL DROSS which is the appalling "River City".

If you haven't ever seen it, count yourselves lucky." Haha! So true! It's filmed near me and can be...interesting...in an almost "it's so bad it's good" way.

"Can you name any quiz shows, documentaries, dramas that are shown as much as eastenders and have run for as long as eastenders and are made by the BBC?" Soaps to tend to be on more frequently than other shows but off the top of my head programmes like news night, panorama, dispatches, question time, mastermind, uni challenge, casualty, dr who...

BadLad · 03/06/2019 03:38

I think it's shit, but plenty of people seem to enjoy it.

Cost of making eastenders..
MyOtherProfile · 03/06/2019 05:30

@Graphista and @Badlad great posts.

Snog · 03/06/2019 06:13

OP eastenders is your Room 101. It's clearly a minority opinion.

Mine would be football and formula one. I don't think I'm better than folk who enjoy them though.

CupoTeap · 03/06/2019 06:35

What makes you think that if it stopped people would watch whatever you wanted in its place?

Also you are wrong abut Strictly you have to count the spin off as well.

SoupDragon · 03/06/2019 07:02

at the very least should be on after the watershed

It's not post watershed stuff. It's just not suitable for a "sensitive" 7 year old.

BasinHaircut · 03/06/2019 08:04

I am a scientist and I LOVE EE. Sometimes after a hard week I crave my 2 hours of brain rot on a Friday night. I even look forward to it if I haven’t had a hard week. Doesn’t make me any more or less of a person OR a scientist.

YY to Graphista ‘s post upthread.

ShatnersWig · 03/06/2019 08:29

No I like tv I just don't watch it loads. Some people watch hours and hours a day? I watch maybe an hour a day and not all days.

How odd. In February 2018 you said you watched Friends ALL DAY. I'd call that "loads". Even as early as season 3, it cost more to employ the six main actors for one episode than it did to make one episode of Eastenders with it's much larger cast, set, crew? By the final few seasons, each of the six cast members were earning $1 million PER EPISODE. That means the final season of Friends with 18 episodes according to Wikipedia cost $108 million just for the six lead actors without ANY other costs for all the crew, supporting and guest casts etc.

I don't understand how people could watch more than one episode of Friends at all, let alone ALL DAY. But apparently you did, OP, so why is it so hard to accept others might want to watch Eastenders for two hours a week or whatever?

SoupDragon · 03/06/2019 09:12

I watch EE! Holby City And Casualty which I think accounts for my "crap TV" for the week.
I also watch HIGNFY, Pointless (I got a pointless answer yesterday and DS2 and I won the head to head 😂). The "earth from space" programme was amazing, the one where they looked at weird land formations and investigated them with CGI to see if they were natural or an ancient civilisation was equally fascinating. As was the one where they did 3d mapping of ancient sites to provide a VR experience. The Ambulance fly-on-the-wall documentary is an eye opener. The Victorian House of Arts and Crafts was enjoyable.

Variety.

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