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It's time... Yes we fucking hate summer.

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SapphireSeptember · 01/06/2019 22:35

Although it hasn't got as hot as it was last year (yet) I feel like I've already had enough. I'm got hayfever, I can't go outside without insects getting in my face and I'm already feeling hot and sticky. I also want to go to bed and someone round here is having an outdoors party. Yes I'm a Scrooge, no I don't care. Roll on autumn and crisp sunny days and frost and apples and brightly coloured leaves (ahh, I feel cooler already.)

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Becca19962014 · 02/07/2019 09:57

Forecast here says 16c and cloudy.

Blazing sun and not 16c. Got GP today.

Becca19962014 · 02/07/2019 09:58

helena it's horrible when heat makes conditions worse.

I was looking forward to the cooler temps.

LoafofSellotape · 02/07/2019 10:19

Sorry for everyone who has still got heat! It's about 18 here and just perfect with a breeze too. If it would just stay like this all summer...

Emmabryant123 · 02/07/2019 15:31

I swear it feels hotter than 20c here which is what met office says
That or I cope really badly with the heat 😬

RosaWaiting · 02/07/2019 18:42

Def much hotter than forecast
People sunbathing in park
Flat v hot. I thought this week was meant to be okay!

Emmabryant123 · 02/07/2019 18:55

It is Def hotter than forecast here
It's like a bloody oven in my flat 😠😠😠

HelenaDove · 02/07/2019 20:58

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48841636

Rafal Sochacki death: Excessive cell heat caused heart stress

Temperature control measures were "inadequate" in the court building where a man died after suffering heat stroke, an inquest jury has ruled.

Rafal Sochacki, 43, was held for almost five hours in a cell at Westminster Magistrates Court.

The court's air conditioning system was faulty on one of the hottest days in London for years.

The inquest jury heard that before his collapse, his body temperature was likely to have hit 40C.

A typical body temperature is about 36.9C with anything above 38C considered too high, the jury heard.

The Polish-born cleaner, who lived in Wood Green and had a daughter, was arrested by police in June 2017.

He was detained on a European Arrest Warrant and was said to be facing "serious charges".

On his way to court, he was held in the police van at Charing Cross police station for 50 minutes with the engine turned off.

When the van arrived at court two-and-a-half hours later, custody staff noticed he was sweating and his clothes were wet.

Imaginary screwdriver'

The inquest heard portable air cooling units had been brought into the court building, because the main air conditioning system needed repairing, but they could not be kept inside the cells for safety reasons.

Police estimated the temperature in his cell was between 34C and 40C at the time of his death.

About four hours after his arrival, jurors were told Mr Sochacki began to act "bizarrely", banging, shouting and muttering.

At one point staff saw him "attempting to fix the door with an imaginary screwdriver".

He later collapsed and died.

Dr William McGuiness, an independent clinical expert, said Mr Sochacki had suffered heat stroke, and that his temperature would have put "huge stress" on his heart.

He said the hours spent in the van and the cell would have been "significant" factors.
'Shocking and preventable

Dr Ashley Feagan-Earl, the pathologist, said Mr Sochacki was overweight and had a serious heart condition, linked to high blood pressure, which made him "more susceptible" to collapse.

In a narrative conclusion the jury wrote his death "was most likely due to being subjected to excessive heat" and added the "compensating measures for temperature control were inadequate".

Deborah Coles, director of INQUEST said: "This shocking and preventable death must send alarm bells across the criminal justice system.

"That a vulnerable man in the care of the state can overheat to death is outrageous."

She said there was an accountability gap in the inspection and monitoring of court cells and the treatment of detainees.
'Extreme temperatures'

Sue McAllister, the Prisons and Probation Ombudsman who investigated the death, said in a report she had found "serious failings" which needed to be addressed.

"I am very concerned that there were inadequate contingency plans when the court's air-conditioning failed," she said

She also said there were deficiencies with how he was transferred to the court.

Julia Rogers, Serco managing director for Justice and Immigration, said new procedures to manage extreme temperatures in vehicles and in court custody suites had been agreed with the Ministry of Justice.

She said the MoJ would also be providing a heat sensory device to trial in the custody suites.

The MoJ said: "Lessons have been learnt from this tragic incident.

"We have established clear procedures when court cells reach set temperatures and when there are excessive delays in collections, and all of our buildings now have ready access to a defibrillator

Becca19962014 · 02/07/2019 21:06

Starting to cool off here. The 18 max was a massive understatement. Hoping it's cooler tomorrow! I must get food!!

Someone had a heart attack here after getting off a train last year because it was massively hot and the train compmahcompany argued in the uk there's no upper limit for temperatures so it wasn't their fault. Turned out once it hits 32 the heating automatically comes on and they died as they got off the train because of the temperature change. Supposedly he had an underlying condition as well - fact is it shouldn't be allowed and there should be an upper limit on temperatures!

RosaWaiting · 02/07/2019 21:09

Becca, the heating comes on after it hits 32?

HelenaDove · 02/07/2019 21:13

@Becca19962014 i really dont know why there is such an aversion to air con in the UK. Its got to be down to money What else is there?

Becca19962014 · 02/07/2019 21:33

Yes that wasn't a typo!

It only records as high as 32 when it goes higher the gauge returns to zero, so freezing, so the heating comes on.

Confused

They do have air con but most of the time it doesn't work and there's only two Windows that open on the local train services. And after 32 it shuts off and the heating comes on.

RosaWaiting · 02/07/2019 23:07

Becca that explains a lot of train complaints.

I can believe it. Last year I went to a function where they were supposed to have air con, but due to the weather in this country a lot of air con isn’t built to work after the temps get higher.

We hear all the talk about climate but no one wants to address the practicalities.

HelenaDove · 03/07/2019 00:41

If that was a cattle truck there would be hell to pay and it would be all over the news.

HelenaDove · 03/07/2019 00:43

"We hear all the talk about climate but no one wants to address the practicalities"

Totally.

HelenaDove · 03/07/2019 01:06

And it looks like they are taking it really seriously Hmm Hmm

twitter.com/situationsarah/status/1145593799386812416

HelenaDove · 03/07/2019 01:14

I cant wait to see the jokes about the cold weather in six months time.............oh wait

RosaWaiting · 03/07/2019 01:18

I think that’s one of those awful fake Tube signs you get on Twitter.

Becca19962014 · 03/07/2019 10:40

So much for 16c....

LoafofSellotape · 03/07/2019 10:41

Hot here 😞

Tadpoletofrog · 03/07/2019 10:49

That’s not a real tube poster, easy way to tell (apart from the fact that LU would never display a sign like that) is the font. The formal LU / TfL font is unique to them, and an obvious clue is the dot over the i. Proper TfL font has a diamond for the dot, not a circle.

The tube has got much better over the last few years. A number of the lines have air conditioned trains, and there’s air con on a lot of the stations and platforms now.

The new design buses are horrendous though, it’s like an oven on the top deck in sunny weather.

Becca19962014 · 03/07/2019 15:19

Hot here too.

RosaWaiting · 03/07/2019 15:40

My elderly mum is always freezing and her house is cold

Even she’s saying the temps are higher than forecast. She’s pleased about it though!

Emmabryant123 · 03/07/2019 16:00

Its absolutely hotter than forecast here
When I saw 20c for the week I thought it would be manageable but I'm a hot sweaty mess

DrCoconut · 03/07/2019 16:07

Its just pleasantly warm here. My car was reading 22 a few minutes ago. You all need to move north.