I actually do think anti vaxxers have a point to a certain extent

[HairHereThere]

Like with ANY medication/treatment there are risks
I feel the government are letting us down with such a one sided ‘vaccines are safe’ argument and how they never want to admit that vaccinations cause problems.
I think, I’m some cases they do. Not being able to claim under the vaccine damage scheme for under 2s gives the wrong message too it’s just too.......defensive ?


If they said actually there is a risk, it’s small but it’s there and we’re honest then had more of a balanced reasoning that yes there’s a risk but it’s a choice and presented it better that the scaremongering would die down

I’m theory I’m anti vax but I’ve vaccinated my children fully because I believe it’s a risk but a risk that is worth taking if that makes sense.
Some I spent to though are terrified and feel there’s such a brick wall up around balanced discussion and it makes things worse ?

[NCbilliontimes]

How many of you have been given the patient information leaflet for your or your child's vaccines?

I had them all (newborn) a few months ago. But I had to ask for them beforehand. Had a phone appointment with the GP before DD was due her vaccines and I asked her if I could have them. She said she didn’t know where to find them 🙄 but a week later I got a call saying they were on the front desk waiting for me.

No point what if-ing, or guessing, just ask.

Pros outweighed the cons in my situation, but I did my research prior to the vacation date just to be sure. Luckily mine had no reaction to any of the vaccinations.

[Jenny17]

I had them all (newborn) a few months ago. But I had to ask for them beforehand

Imo you should not have to ask for a patient information leaflet. Even paracetamol comes with the leaflet. Most people arguing about vaccines haven't even read the information from the manufacturer smh.

Vaccines are the best we have however they are not infallible and should never be forced on anyone lest not until pharma can be sued if they get it wrong.

[NCbilliontimes]

Imo you should not have to ask for a patient information leaflet. Even paracetamol comes with the leaflet. Most people arguing about vaccines haven't even read the information from the manufacturer smh

I completely agree. The attitude I got for even asking was laughable, but if I’d flat out refused the vaccines I’d be classed as hysterical and negligent, even abusive.
Must be a reason they’re not given as standard? Apparently not many people at my GPs surgery ask for them, which I find really odd, although where I live is very Royston Vasey 😂

[LinoleumBlownapart]

My children recently had to have some vaccines abroad which are not standard in the UK (Hepititas A and B) so were missed when they were babies. I was given all the information to read while we waited for the nurse to prepare the vaccines. This is pretty standard to give leaflets and info on the vaccines. I've had my children vaccinated in three different countries healthcare systems including the UK and I've never taken children for vaccines where I wasn't told the risks, the side affects and what the vaccine was for.

[PowerBadgersUnite]

I've had a leaflet every time dd had a vaccination and when I had to have some of mine sorted (turned out I'd missed a couple probably due to a long period of illness as a child) I was given leaflets and told to read them before the vaccination was given. All on the NHS and without having to ask.

[Maddis136]

There are many more serious reactions to drugs regularly prescribed such as the contraceptive pill yet none of the hysteria generated by vaccines. The pill carries a small proven risk of increased chance of some cancers yet you never see mass campaigns to ban all hormonal contraceptives.

Personally I think children that aren’t vaccinated through choice rather than medical need should not be eligible to attend main stream school. I think you’d see a sudden dramatic reduction in woo parents refusing vaccines.

[Durgasarrow]

I have a feeling that what a lot of anti-vaxxers are afraid of is needles.

[2ndali]

Although there is a lot of information about the risks to children of contracting measles - rightly so - I have seen very little comment about the risk to newly pregnant women who haven't had the MMR vaccination. Pregnant women who contract rubella are at risk for miscarriage or stillbirth, and their developing babies are at risk for severe birth defects with devastating, lifelong consequences.

[Durgasarrow]

Getting in a car is a risk. Are you going to stay home? Food has risks. Are you not going to feed your kid? Walking down the stairs is a risk. Are you going to leave your sleeping baby in his crib so you don't drop him on the way down? Every day we do things that have a chance of killing our children.

[CurtainCorner]

I don't know much about this but I do no know that their is a benefit called the vaccine damage payment which can be claimed in certain circumstances. This would indicate to me that the government are aware of and do acknowledge that their can be some side effects to vaccines.

[CurtainCorner]

sorry, there, not their.

[Mrshue]

@Prequelle

Some guy claimed vaccines had turned him into the hulk

It’s on the VAERS site

Smh.

The world is going nuts!

There’s a meme going round

This child choked on food. I read uk about food on the net and I’ve seen that children have died from chocking on food!!! That’s it. My child is never going to have food again! Can’t trust it.

[mencken]

no-one says vaccines are 100% safe. Life has a 100% risk of death, get used to it. You are going to die and so are your kids.

for most people vaccines are a lot less risky than the illness concerned. That's why they are recommended.

anti-vaxxers can't understand this.

[Emmw]

Just read the inserts of vaccines and decide for yourselves, vaccines can cause encephalopathy which can cause death thats not a conspiracy, its written plain as day on the inserts there's risks to both sides its up to the parents to decide what risks to take.

[user1471565182]

I know an anti vaxxer who smokes crack

[Mally2020]

I work and study within this region and yes I partially agree with you. Specifically in terms of the Pfizer vaccine. The Astra Zeneca/oxford vaccine is GB based, is taking its time in testing and is testing a variety of people. Not to mention in terms of Brexit surely we should be using home grown resources, yet instead we are sourcing the vaccines internationally which have varying standards.

[BalloonSlayer]

There is a vaccine damage compensation fund, so yes of course occasionally vaccines cause damage and this is acknowledged by the government - hence the existence of the fund - but obviously robust proof is required of vaccine damage to gain compensation.

When I was young the whooping cough vaccine had caused brain damage in some children and parents were scared of that and reluctant to vaccinate.

The Pfizer vaccine has caused serious allergic reactions so people with serious allergies won't be allowed to have it. I have a DC in that category, if the Pfizer vaccine was the only one available I would suggest he had it with epipens at the ready.

There was a good article by MD in Private Ete this week, they also mentioned the vaccine damage compensation fund, and pointed out that allergic reactions to vaccines are much rarer than adverse reactions to antibiotics and gave the statistics.

[GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER]

You only have to walk round a churchyard with a lot of Victorian-era graves to see what happened before there were vaccines. 3 or 4 babies and children from the same family, all dead within a very short period from some epidemic or other.