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To be annoyed when people say morney isn't everything.

277 replies

racking · 24/04/2019 22:32

I assume they have been fortunate enough to never have been on the breadline.

Money makes things so so much more easier. Yes everyone has problems but if you have money you can throw money at it at least. Granted not everything can be helped with money but alot can.

I was told this today by someone and it just really pisses me off!

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Babynamess · 28/04/2019 03:06

What a horrible thread.

Exactly. And the billionaire can access the best grief counselling, can buy ready made healthy meals, have a cleaner. Yeah, because ready meals and a clean house are really going to help solve his grief. I think someone who has to work to keep going may actually fare better.

Blackandpurple · 28/04/2019 07:38

Money can buy you happiness. If buying a nice handbag makes you happy well, it works.

Lots of these lotto winners buy big houses/yachts/flash cars and give to family. Why? People attacking you for doing just that will make you unhappy. Keep quiet! Id never go public nor tellmy family.

Id rather have money than not and make my own decision about it.

Helmetbymidnight · 28/04/2019 07:49

i find it appalling that people are using the asos billionaire tragedy as an example of how money isn't everything.

fgs. of course having family well and happy is the most important thing. and of course being wealthy doesnt insulate you from death.

but that doesn't negate the fact that life is easier with money. of course it is, how could it not be?

poor people who lose family cant afford to bury them, cant afford time fromwork, lose their homes... please dont tell me this isnt obvious.

Helmetbymidnight · 28/04/2019 07:54

money doesn't mean you're immune from the human condition but it means freedom, to chose a job or lifestyle you'd enjoy - come from a privileged background and you can do what you want: the arts/acting etc. come from a poor background and you take any job to keep your head up...

im just staggered that people dont understand this.

Topseyt · 28/04/2019 10:55

I agree, OP. I've always thought that "money doesn't buy you happiness" is far too simplistic and arrogant a statement, usually trotted out by those who have never struggled for money to those who do.

I have struggled for money in the past. Less so now, but we certainly aren't wealthy. I have never appreciated this sort of remark. Money would certainly have made life very much easier at times, and that would have made me much happier because I would have been much less stressed and anxious.

OhTheRoses · 28/04/2019 11:00

Money does not prevent tragedy. But nobody sane would swap a loved one for wealth if it meant their suffering or death. There is no return from death.

I wish my baby son hadn't died in my arms - I'd have given everything material and my own good health to prevent it.

Helmetbymidnight · 28/04/2019 11:04

sorry to hear of your loss.

people dont really think its a comparison between wealth and loved ones dying?

the fact is poorer people have lower life expectancy than richer people and more health problems.

again, surely people understand this?

if you have a sick relative, surely you want access to the best health care, best facilites, best food avaliable. this costs. are people really unaware of that?

GoldenPineapples · 28/04/2019 11:11

Money doesn't mend mental health issues.

I've been "comfortable " financially and I've been poor. Whilst I agree money can buy a comfortable house and nice things, which is never going to be bad, it can all feel pretty empty if your mind is dealing with health issues. I know that from experience.

Helmetbymidnight · 28/04/2019 11:30

money buys regular counselling, time off from work, a nice area to exercise in...

if you have mental issues, is it better to have money or not?

if you have been bereaved, is it better to have money or not?

im staggered that anyone would say no.

InTheHeatofLisbon · 28/04/2019 11:39

people dont really think its a comparison between wealth and loved ones dying?

On another thread (different username) I was pilloried because someone said that my mum dying wasn't as bad as hers because my mum left me money.

Aye, because I'd much rather have a fat bank balance and PTSD from watching my mother die screaming in agony for fucking hours at the end, than be skint and have my Mum.

GoldenPineapples · 28/04/2019 11:50

Time off work can actually be very detrimental to metal health issues (unless it's the work place causing it.) a Counselling isn't always effective with certain people's mh conditions and exercise is certainly not something people can always motivate themselves to do (or have anyone else trying) when you are suffering in your head.

Lots of ignorance surrounding mental health conditions by many out there and it's actually quite insulting to think people think money can buy your way out of it.

Helmetbymidnight · 28/04/2019 11:55

that was a weird thing to say.

ive heard that on threads too - 'i inherited a million pounds but id rather have my parents back' - well obviously! - but most of us lose our parents - this is sadly part of life - and we dont get million pounds inheritance either.

grief is grief- and money cant make you immune from it - but of course it can help.

look at david camerons life - full of choice and freedom and power and fun even with a severely disabled son. do people really think thats how most parents of disabled children live?

Helmetbymidnight · 28/04/2019 11:57

money cant buy your way out of grief, disability or mental illness but of course it helps.

again, which would you rather- a mental health condition and living on the breadline or the same mental health condition and a comfortable income?

Helmetbymidnight · 28/04/2019 11:59

i find the 'money makes no difference' crowd quite insulting too actually.

Walnutwhipster · 28/04/2019 12:06

A pp said money can buy you health. My mum is dying of cancer and I have a life threatening condition, which to date has very nearly killed me several times and I face an uncertain future, hoping I get to see my children to adulthood. No amount of money can change these facts. I have no money worries but I'd swap that in a heartbeat.

GoldenPineapples · 28/04/2019 12:16

"again, which would you rather- a mental health condition and living on the breadline or the same mental health condition and a comfortable income?"

I have been in both scenarios and it makes no difference with regards to my mental health. In fact being comfortable creates its own problems because you get less empathy from people and you add guilt to the mix because you feel like you "should " be happy and grateful. Then it's a vicious cycle.

When you feel like your mind needs a big plaster it makes no difference whether you're sitting on an expensive sofa with a nice carpet in your lounge watching a big tv or a cheap second hand sofa with an old carpet and rubbish tv. Why? Because it's all superficial and can feel empty.

Why do people think people are increasingly opting for less "stuff" and focusing on being more mindful? Because people are waking up to the fact that "stuff" and having "stuff" can be so empty.

GoldenPineapples · 28/04/2019 12:23

It reminds me of a book I used to read to my dc when they were small called "The richest crocodile in the world" who had everything he could ever want but he still felt empty and sad. He was envious of the other animals who didn't have everything but they were all happy because they all had each other.

I liked that book because it teaches a good message. Yes having nice things and a big house can be wonderful but it means nothing and won't necessarily make you feel happy if you don't have that underlying foundation of happiness in the first place which you only get through things that money cannot buy.

Helmetbymidnight · 28/04/2019 12:23

its not about stuff at all- its about freedom and choice -

dont you understand poor people dont have these?

lets pretend that poorer people live as long as wealthy people- lets pretend that poorer people have less mental health issues than wealthy people. Confused

GoldenPineapples · 28/04/2019 12:24

I am a poor person Confused

kaytee87 · 28/04/2019 12:24

Of course money doesn't make you happy, having none of it would make you pretty unhappy though.

Al2O3 · 28/04/2019 12:25

Money widens choices and outcomes. In that respect it is tremendous.

It cannot buy every happiness and in my experience it is never present in the best of those.

Helmetbymidnight · 28/04/2019 12:26

rich londoners live 25 yrs longer than poor those are the stats.

mn: 'well i know someone who died and they were rich.'

GoldenPineapples · 28/04/2019 12:29

Does living longer mean you're happier though?

My Nan lived until her 90s but sadly deteriorated with a stroke then dementia for the last 10 years of her life.

I'm sure if you gave people the choice to die sooner rather than live longer with health problems associated with old age they would choose sooner. My mum would.

Helmetbymidnight · 28/04/2019 12:32

yeah, people who try to pull others out of poverty and poor housing and ltd education and life opps should just give up.

poor people are much happy poorer.

Helmetbymidnight · 28/04/2019 12:36

they love it- in fact most people would prefer poorer nutrition and crap schools and hospitals and worse air quality and traffic than their wealthier neighbours. they dont want to access counselling or do interesting jobs. they actually want to die early.
they love being poor.