To be annoyed when people say morney isn't everything.

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I assume they have been fortunate enough to never have been on the breadline.

Money makes things so so much more easier. Yes everyone has problems but if you have money you can throw money at it at least. Granted not everything can be helped with money but alot can.

I was told this today by someone and it just really pisses me off!

I used to be really poor. Now I'm married to a well earning DH and living in a beautiful detached house, never having to calculate how much groceries I can buy (still do out of habit though). We're deeply unhappy, daughter too early stillborn, my mum dead, his dad dead, cat has dissapeared, DH is being investigated for some creepy illnesses. It's one stress after the other. You really can still be miserable when you have money. It solves paying the bills, but that's it. I see that a lot of the comments mention children, we don't have any. Would you trade your money worries for our childless life? Or your health? Because I envy you.

YANBU.

Money can buy IVF for couple's who struggle to have children, money can buy better health-care, money is everything if don't have any for the simple basic's in life.

I'm 50/50 with it.

My first thought is money absolutely can buy happiness. It has for me, in spades.

But then I look at people like Trisha Paytas who has loads of money but is still constantly miserable and in the middle of one big crisis after the other.

I think if you have the things in your life already that make you happy i.e a loving partner, children (or none of that's what makes you happy), and a good support network then money absolutely can buy happiness. It takes the general stress of life away and all you're left to do is try and enjoy your life with the added bonus of everything in general being easier.

Money doesn’t buy happiness, but it does buy choices and, if you have enough of it, it can buy freedom from the need to work for a living, unless you actually want to.

You have to compare like with like. In any given shitstorm scenario the rich person is probably happier than the poorer person but that doesn’t mean that every rich person is happier than every poor person.

Absolutely. It’s ducking terrible but he’d be at least as miserable if he was getting red letters fro the mortgage company.

Basically there is no situation that I can think of that money would make harder to bear

Handsoffmysweets sadly not only on MN, I've seen lots of posts on twitter saying he'll be ok because he's loaded. It's disgusting.

It's not everything but I have it and it helps. ALOT.

DH has had cancer, twice and we have lost a baby. Nothing can make either of these two things better but having money meant we could take time off work, scale back hours and afford treats to help pull us out of some dark places.

We are really lucky.

We grew up quite poor, so I know what it's like to be hungry.

Now I am grown up, I don't have ONE problem that could be solved with money - not one!

Of course, if I had a lot of money I could buy some stuff I can't afford right now and get some pleasure out of it, but pleasure is different to happiness.

If I was a billionaire I'd live in fear of my loved ones being kidnapped - stuff like that.

IVF is stressful and doesn't always result in a child. There was a report in the paper the other day about the false hope some of the private IVF clinic peddle.

Better health care doesn't stop people dying of terminal cancer, unfortunately.

The human condition is not solved with money.

cranstonmanor I am sorry you are going through so much.

Better health care doesn't stop people dying of terminal cancer, unfortunately

FFS Not well-phrased, but I know what I meant!

iI was a billionaire I'd live in fear of my loved ones being kidnapped - stuff like that

Anyone who kidnapped my relatives to get money would soon find out that some things just aren’t worth the money

Better health care doesn't stop people dying of terminal cancer, unfortunately.

No but poorly managed healthcare means you might die when you didn’t have to. My kate godmother’s cancer care was farcical.

Understand how you feel. Only proviso I’d make is health. I realise that without money, good health can be hard to maintain but no amount of money in the world can help if you have an awful condition that will never get better.

"The only incurable troubles of the rich are the troubles that money can't cure/Which is a kind of trouble that is even more troublesome if you are poor" ogden nash.

I agree. The human condition isn't solved with money but it can make things a hell of lot easier if you aren't poor. Ivf doesn't always work but surely it is better to have the opportunity to give it a try? Terminal cancer affects everyone but it is easier if you can take a week off to support your dying parent rather than still having to work and then take 2 buses across the city to go to the hospital. You don't need to be millionaire rich but not being poor makes most situations easier.

I have a very wealthy cousin (not fear of kidnapping wealthy but wealthy enough not to worry). His son developed really bad crohns/ibs. he was able to give up work without worries when it became unbearable and then went for new treatment in the US. Money doesn't stop trouble visiting you but it gives you a lot more choices and solutions to the trouble.

If you say people who never had money worries wouldn't understand surely equally if you've never had money you wouldn't know if money makes you happy or not?

I agree with the OP, there is not one problem in my life, including my health issues, that couldn't be solved with money.

Clichés about money are nearly always trotted out my those that have an abundance of it.

However, money is not everything and I wouldn't swap my partner or children for all the money in the world.

Tragic life events don't discriminate between the rich and poor though, and my heart goes out to anyone suffering

Nothing annoys me more than my NarcM sprawled out on her queensize luxury bed, in her new build house paid for majorily by her OH, 2 brand new top spec cars on the drive, pedigree dog, £200 shop a week, with luxury clothing & shoes bleating ‘I’m not happy either you know!’. I was raised that other people’s problems are always bigger than mine. I only know now that she just meant her problems. The problem is some people will just never be happy, no matter what they have. Mainly Narcs I think. Nothing is ever enough for some! But yeah, can’t stand NarcM whinging whilst I’m genuinely struggling. I would be so appreciative if I was living her life. She’s just sour faced and abusive to her OH who spends over £1k on her every birthday and Christmas. Oh what I’d do for that kind of relaxing life! She regularly uses the phrase ‘money doesn’t buy happiness’, it’s bollocks to me

I like having it but it doesn’t make you happier when you get a problem that can’t be solved with it.

The worst thing is it’s been so long now that when an issue does come up that can’t be solved you have forgotten all your copying mechanisms. I grew up without much and very low expectations, my expectations are so much higher now so when little things aren’t right it bothers me more than it would have or maybe I just notice them.

It doesn’t make you happy always, it does help. It helps a lot but it doesn’t ultimately fix every problem and often the effects are temporary. When I get something I like it, but then that moment is gone and you need to find your next thing but it’s an endless loop.

Now what will make you happy is exercise and moving around alongside good nutrition and good strong social relationships.

I think anyone who says such a thing has never been really poor. I don't have to worry about finances now but have had to be very careful in the past. Never breadline though. Money cannot solve every problem but having none creates problems in itself and if you are wealthy at least it proves a distraction.