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To be annoyed when people say morney isn't everything.

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racking · 24/04/2019 22:32

I assume they have been fortunate enough to never have been on the breadline.

Money makes things so so much more easier. Yes everyone has problems but if you have money you can throw money at it at least. Granted not everything can be helped with money but alot can.

I was told this today by someone and it just really pisses me off!

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TeacupDrama · 25/04/2019 15:23

I don't think many of even the poorest families in the world would swap with the Asos billionaire, no amount of money assuages the grief of having three coffins instead of three children ( money will ensure life carries on and the bills will be paid but it doesn't deal with the grief)

many surveys throughout the world do not put the richest countries at top and poorest at bottom in happiness stakes peace/security and a family seem to matter more
Syria and Yemen are at the bottom not because of poverty ( though there is plenty of that) but because of war

I would agree that dire poverty reduces happiness but above a certain level I don't think more money makes people happier I am not convinced that billionaires are happier than millionaires who are happier than those on 100,000
Though I think those on 100,000 are happier than those on 10/20/30K but whether they are happier than those on 70/80/90k I'm not sure

Happynow001 · 25/04/2019 15:25

Money definitely isn't everything but life can be much harder without it or sufficient of it. Eg: can't get universal credit or enough similar benefits, can't get a job. Homeless. Difficultly getting free/inexpensive/consistent childcare. Not enough pension. Paying for long term, decent care in a care home. Some drugs and treatment unavailable on the NHS, or at least without having to wait for many months or, in some cases, years. Unable to afford a decent funeral. List goes on..

Purpleartichoke · 25/04/2019 15:26

I could make a lot more money than I do, but I chose better work life balance. Why did I do that? Because I still make a very good salary. I throw money at my problems all the time. Back hurts when I clean? Hire a cleaner. Hate cooking? Food is delivered. Dd having stress? Immediate Private therapy sessions.

Money buys ease. Ease might not be happiness, but it certainly makes finding happiness easier.

AguerosAngel · 25/04/2019 15:28

My DM always had a great answer when someone said that to her, she just to say “I’d rather be miserable with money than without it”.

I tend to agree.

LaurieFairyCake · 25/04/2019 17:29

it can't buy you health

Bollocks.

I have a dodgy hip. Nhs answer - wait 18 years for it to get sufficiently bad enough to be replaced

My own money - private yoga teacher weekly plus specialist supplements - cost (tax deductible) - £1800 a year.

Result - I can carry on working and not taking ibuprofen which damages my stomach

No nhs dentist near enough to me (if I took one further away then it would impact my income as I'd have to reduce paid work) - so I pay approx £80 a time instead

Contact lenses - I can't 'see' in glasses AT ALL. I literally fall over my feet.

Private cost - £30 a month

I've started suffering from Peri menopause. I'm roasting hot/freezing cold/feeling very weird. I will pay £200 to a private menopause doctor who will give me blood tests and then tell me what I need hrt wise - I can either go back to nhs with results or pay

Not to mention all the better food I can buy and fresh juices.

Poor people die much younger. Move to Surrey, longest life expectancy in Britain (mostly wealthy)

pallisers · 25/04/2019 17:51

It can't buy you health

There is a post on here by a poor unfortunate woman with 47 veruccas. NHS won't do anything for her and she can't afford to go private. I'd say money could buy her health.

ALongHardWinter · 25/04/2019 17:58

In my experience,the only people who say 'money isn't everything' have got plenty of money. Ok,money may not be everything. But it sure as hell goes a long way to making life a damn sight easier and enjoyable. At various times in my life,I have had a lot of money,and at other times,I have been so skint that I've literally not known where my next meal is coming from. Believe me,having money is by far the more enjoyable.

cushioncovers · 25/04/2019 19:10

It can buy you health.

Friends dad kept getting headaches after s bang to his head he went to gp who sent a referral for an mri scan which was inevitably weeks away. So He went private had scan that week and it showed that he had a bleed on the brain. He was operated the following week and surgeon said he was lucky he went privately as it could of been fatal.

SlappingJoffrey · 26/04/2019 08:12

It can buy some people health, is the correct answer.

museumum · 26/04/2019 08:22

I do agree that having ENOUGH money is important for reducing stress and giving options. I have also seen many people drives to hell in the pursuit of MORE money. People who neglect their families for more working hours and end up alone, people who can never relax for a moment and have heart attacks in their 50s.

Youngandfree · 26/04/2019 08:52

My DH could take jobs with way more money (tax free too) but that would mean him spending more than half the year away from us (in his current job he is away for 3 weeks at a time) so we would have a hell of a lot more money and no one would be happier.

In terms of health money can buy you healthcare yes but it can not cure all unfortunately.

We are very lucky to not have to worry about money but we still budget and save as much as we can because there could be a day a job is lost or an illness could occur. I also think if you can afford it then life insurance and critical illness cover is important to have.

lookingelsewhere · 26/04/2019 08:56

I have sarcoidosis of the lung and atrial fibrillation of the heart. I am being well looked-after in the NHS system.

Money can't buy me health or fix anything I've got wrong.

I earn less now I work from home but my health has improved by an incredible amount. I am earning less, but my stress has gone right down and I don't have to work with nasty bullies anymore.

lookingelsewhere · 26/04/2019 09:00

Money will do little to relieve grief. It may provide some distraction to help get through the days, but it won't solve it

Absolutely. It also seems that it stops people seeing you as a suffering human being "because you're rich". I can only imagine how hurtful that must be.

lookingelsewhere · 26/04/2019 09:09

I have a sister in a private health care system abroad. She was in an accident last year and was in a coma. She now lives with a brain injury and will never work again. She had good private care and rehab, but they can't fix her.

I also have immigration issues that once again cannot be helped by more money.

We were very poor growing up. Also had an NPD mother - another thing that can't be solved by money.

I suppose in my own life, I just look around and can't see anything that money would fix for me.

lookingelsewhere · 26/04/2019 09:10

My immigration issues keep me separated from loved ones - permanently. Sorry to bang on here on this thread. I am in a chatty mood today Smile

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 26/04/2019 09:24

The Danish billionaire wasn't the only one to lose his children in those attacks. I wonder how the poorer families get on.
His and his wife’s tragedy is immeasurable but it won’t avalanche i to loosing jobs/ home and ending up on the streets.

Gwenhwyfar · 26/04/2019 09:32

"Above a certain level of income (think it's £150k hmm) no one is any happier - I thought that was an interesting study."

I can believe that, but I also think moving from 13k to 25k would make someone MUCH happier. Money definitely matters when you haven't got much.

Foslady · 26/04/2019 09:42

I think the quote Re £100-150k Aldi needs taking in context, where I live that’s a massive wage, I could live like a king, but how many posters on here do you see saying that living where they live that’s a living wage with no luxuries?

Foslady · 26/04/2019 09:43

Aldi???? Also!!!

Gwenhwyfar · 26/04/2019 09:47

"It can't buy you health
It can't buy you love
It can't prevent accidents"

Disagree with the first one. It can buy you a healthy lifestyle and the best healthcare. Also means you can take time off work when you're ill without suffering.

teyem · 26/04/2019 09:47

Yes, money won't fix any of my health problems now either. That's because the money I have is used to fix those problems I have. I suppose if I had a lot more I could investigate other means to improve my health. But as it is I use my money so I can eat healthy, exercise, reduce my hours at work and enjoy the time I do have.

A 19 year old girl died not so long ago of an asthma attack, while she clung to her ventolin and tried to decide whether or not to use the remaining puffs because she couldn't afford to get a new one.

That makes me fucking rage actually. The amount of times I've loaded my spacer with ventolin and waited for an ambulance. I've never once had to worry about how much I was using because of the cost. It's fucking awful.

InTheHeatofLisbon · 26/04/2019 09:48

Whoever wrote this has obviously never read anything on the facts and statistics of how the poor are a lot more unhealthy than the rich.....

I must remember to tell my very well off, non smoking, non drinking, health nut Mum this.

Oh wait, she's dead. From cancer.

Shame her money couldn't fix that eh?

Money gives people choices, it eases financial strain.

It doesn't make life a laugh a minute. It just exchanges one stress for others which can't be solved by money.

I've been on the breadline, I've been under it, I've been above it comfortably and we're coping ok financially now.

To see us you'd think ooh nice big house, lucky them!

They don't see the rest of our lives which are far from fucking easy.

Gwenhwyfar · 26/04/2019 09:50

"Buying IVF doesn't exactly mean that it will work though."

Then you buy the services of a surrogate from a country where this is legal.

Gwenhwyfar · 26/04/2019 10:02

"I also have immigration issues that once again cannot be helped by more money. "

But many immigration issues CAN be helped with money. A person earning over bout 30k can bring a non-EU spouse over to live with them, the others can't.
Look at how Nigel Lawson can try to impose Brexit and loss of freedom of movement on the rest of us, but he's OK because he can get residency through his second home in France. Bastard.

Whatistheworldcominto · 26/04/2019 10:18

If you are lucky enough to have it, you often have to make sacrifices for it - everyone I know with higher paying jobs have no work-life balance and very stressful jobs and whilst they have money they miss out on the family life and have the stress and so money may not be everything.

I am in a low paid job, topped up with tax credits because even the government recognises I can't live on my ft earnings alone. My job is stressful too, physically demanding, dealing with people and you can never please all the people all the time, and I also miss family time too. Where was I over Easter/Bank hol weekend? At work, same as Christmas. Didn't get anything extra either. My job is at its peak when the majority of people are off, so evenings and weekends. I work nights too, which is known to have health implications. Money to retrain, and a drop in hours for the time would solve my problems, but someone else in the same boat would take my place. So lack of work/life balance and working hard are not just for the wealthy. It's just seen as that way. That's what I find more annoying than 'money isn't everything' tbh.
Money would solve a lot of the problems at the forefront of my life right now, it would clear the debts (not from credit but from expenses I have no choice over) I have and remove the threat of bailiffs turning up. It would mean I could get DD some private tutoring to try and negate the effects of a failing school and thus improve her chances in life. It would mean I could afford decent footwear for work and not be storing up trouble for the future with a succession of cheap and nasty shoes.
I think just eliminating those things from my life would ease my stress levels and make me a happier person, or more correctly, a more positive person. I'd see the point, which I struggle to at the moment, I seem to exist to make others rich and yes, I truly do resent that. Perhaps were I getting something out of it other than stress and tired, I'd see the point of it all more.

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