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Son wants to come home

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dustarr73 · 14/04/2019 14:52

Went homeless with his gf and baby son.She is going home to her mothers,he wants to come back here.But the problem is i just dont have the room for him.

My 3 younger sons share,my eldest has his own room,and me and dp have a room.
He wants our room,but the only way he can come back here is of he goes in with the 3 younger boys.And now hes trying to guilttrip me.Im so torn.

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SleepingStandingUp · 15/04/2019 13:33

If he's too overbearing for the eldest to put up with, how is it fair on the three youngest that he's there taking over their room too? Is he likely to be coming back in from the un etc at stupid o'clock and waking them up?

He needs to know he has 3 options - sofa, kids room, in with big bro. It's unfair on big bro as he's paying but that's family for you.

contrary13 · 15/04/2019 13:46

"And his overbearing personality is His personality.Same way yours is yours."

Yes. And no. Everyone on the planet has the ability to be bolshy, rude, overbearing... but the vast majority of us choose not to be, purely because we grasp the fact that being rude? Or overbearing? Or bolshy? Hinders us in so many ways. Our personalities are not something we're inherently born with, OP - they are formed through what we're permitted to get away with during our formative years. Unless your son has a mental health condition, or perhaps a learning disability which you've not mentioned (and why would you?), then his being "overbearing" is because you and his father (although as you've barely mentioned his father, so I suspect more you...) have allowed, perhaps even unwittingly encouraged, him to become thus. There's a very large age gap between your second and third oldest sons. For whatever reasons, perhaps, subconsciously, you thought he was going to be your youngest and did as many of us are guilty of, and treated him thus? If he was spoiled whilst growing up, it's no wonder he's expecting you to pick up his slack. But by continuing, as a grown man with a child of his own, to be "overbearing" is a choice, not by dint of his personality, I'm afraid.

My oldest has mental health conditions and grandparents who have spoiled her. She's the same age as your second son is. She's been employed, consistently, since she was 16... whilst continuing with her education. She was in paid employment throughout a full time university degree, and quite frankly; if she can do that? Then any able-bodied 23 year old can, regardless of whether they have a child to provide for... or not.

Treat your son like the adult he actually is, OP, and one day... perhaps you'll have a son who isn't overbearing, who doesn't expect his Mummy to deal with the consequences of the choices which he has made, who can keep a job and who is raising their child to become a successful adult in their own right, too.

I was 20 when my oldest was born. My ex and I were both in full-time employment at the time, and I took time out to retrain by going to university. We paid our own way, we provided for her - and later on, her brother - ourselves, we didn't expect anyone else to pick up the pieces. Why? Because we were both legal adults at the time, and having her? Was my choice. Yes, her parents doted on her... but as grandparents, not surrogate parents which, if your son's girlfriend and their baby have moved back in with her family, is a possibility. Also... surely he and his girlfriend would be occupying one bed? How can there not be room for them, as adults who have a child of their own, to stay together so that they can raise their baby?

Or, as someone else suggested, does the other grandmother not want an "overbearing" manchild with a mother who does nothing but make excuses for him, actually with her own child? Have her protective instincts kicked in, too, to the detriment of your son's family unit?

Yes, it is very easy for us to say "well, I'd not do this; I'd do that instead" - but a lot of us have grasped the concept that pandering to our adult offspring doesn't help them in the long run.

My oldest no longer lives at home. I made a choice to protect and set a good example to my youngest (who is 14). It wasn't an easy choice for me to make, because she is my daughter and I love her. But she's an adult. She has to stand on her own two feet.

So does your son.

Let him be the adult that creating a child made him.

Moorfields · 15/04/2019 16:35

If he's in a hub for families then why doesn't he move his girlfriend & baby in there? They would qualify as a family surely or am I missing something? It seems that everybody is hell bent in either offloading him on others or appeasing to his demands.

woolduvet · 15/04/2019 17:42

Yes, why have they moved out of the family hub?

dustarr73 · 15/04/2019 18:36

If he's in a hub for families then why doesn't he move his girlfriend & baby in there?

@Moorfields read tHE thread.They are all of them in the hub now.The reason i was given is that she misses being close to her family.They are miles away from us and they are not allowed any visitors.

I have answered these questions allready

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woodhill · 15/04/2019 18:41

Why are they not allowed visitors OP?

NaturatintGoldenChestnut · 15/04/2019 18:44

So they come and visit you or you go and meet them somewhere until they get offered housing. Are people just not capable of joined up thinking? They're adults who have a responsibility to their own child but are behaving like silly teenagers. How embarrassing.

chocchocpop · 15/04/2019 18:52

So they were hoping to be given a house but instead they have been placed in temp accommodation is that right?

ny20005 · 15/04/2019 18:54

So what options does he have if you say no to him moving back ?

dustarr73 · 15/04/2019 19:10

@Why are they not allowed visitors OP?
I dont know,
They do visit us and we d meet them out.

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user1457017537 · 15/04/2019 19:13

So they actually have somewhere to live at the moment but your son doesn’t want to live there

Tawdrylocalbrouhaha · 15/04/2019 19:24

Why are they not allowed visitors OP?

The family hubs work like medium term hostels, but for families not individuals. They are quite closely supervised for safety reasons, so no strangers coming in making noise and taking over the shared areas. No drinking, no smoking, support with any social issues.

user1457017537 · 15/04/2019 20:20

Well I think that is a good thing for vulnerable people or single mothers. Residents can always go out to a park or coffee shop.

NaturatintGoldenChestnut · 15/04/2019 20:40

Right, so they don't fancy the hostel but expect the council to cough up a house?

Moorfields · 15/04/2019 21:08

I have a feeling the op is going to give onto his demands. He sounds like a very persistent young man, he's probably going to wear down & guilt trip the op. He'd be better off using those persuasion skills to get himself a job or into further training to provide for his family. Seven people on a 3 bed isn't going to be comfortable for anyone. There'll be no privacy for anybody and there won't certainly be a peaceful atmosphere for homework. The op should strongly encourage the older two to move out. Once they're gone, the younger two can share on room and the middle child has his own as does the op.

dustarr73 · 16/04/2019 07:43

Nope i wont be giving in.Im going to talk to my dp tonight.And start the ball rolling on the eldest going as well.

Something has to give.

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DoulaDaisy · 16/04/2019 14:25

So your son and his girlfriend thought they could play the system by going homeless? Can they not get HAP and find a place together?

Moorfields · 16/04/2019 15:56

I'm glad to hear this OP. It's an important life lesson for your youngest children to see their elder brothers independent. They need to learn that education & training is the only way to get a secure hob & lifestyle. Nobody will or should pick up their bill, but if they see you subbing their brother then they might do the same once they're 18 +.

Stand firm op and the best of luck to you & your family.

safariboot · 16/04/2019 16:26

The bedrooms in your house are all taken. He can sleep on the sofa. Take it or leave it, end of, no arguments.

And he needs to be looking for work and for accommodation. Finding either may be easier said than done but if he doesn't try he won't get.

dustarr73 · 24/04/2019 11:06

Well an update.Him and his gf have decided to stay where they are.They are staying in the hub.
My son wont answer my calls or fb messages.He seen my eldest the other day and they told him they where staying put.

I have clothes for my gc for Easter but he wont answer my calls.I dont know what to do.

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Charles11 · 24/04/2019 11:44

That sounds hard op but what you did was for the best.
I’d send him a message to say that you love them and that you hope he’ll come to understand why you put your foot down about this.
Then let him come to you when he’s ready.

peridito · 24/04/2019 12:20

OP I'm sorry to read your update . Just hang on in there .You know it's not your fault don't you ? You've not said he can't come home .

It sounds so hard and of course most ppl haven't been helpful on here ! I agree completely with @VetinarisTerrier.

He's going to have to find a way through this ,he will I'm sure .

Sorry you're in this position Brew Flowers

dustarr73 · 24/04/2019 13:36

Thanks peridito and Charles11 thats what i have done.Ball is in his court now

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rainbowstardrops · 24/04/2019 14:24

So he's having a strop because you didn't give in and let him have his own way - good for you for standing your ground!
I know he's young but he's a father now and needs to sort his own situation out.
Hope it all calms down soon though

LunafortJest · 24/04/2019 15:28

I thought you said his girlfriend already moved back home? So does that mean they returned to the hub, or they never left there?

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