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I feel upset, sick and cheated by Leaving Neverland

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Persimmonn · 13/03/2019 10:30

I was one of those people who kept saying the men are out to make money. That there’s no evidence etc. But I finally watched the documentary yesterday and it’s hurt me a lot. I feel like I was lied to my whole life. I know it sounds so melodramatic and selfish but MJ was my idol growing up. I remember being 7 years old and dancing and singing his songs.

Now I feel sick to the core. If Wade Robson and James Safechuck are lying, then they’re incredibly good liars.

MJ was a paedophile.

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thetwits · 04/04/2019 11:08

I'm not reading reddit anyone can post on there. Its like believing all the information from wikipedia.

thetwits · 04/04/2019 11:18

Everything he posts is coming from journalists not from him.

LunafortJest · 04/04/2019 11:51

Oh, you really believe that? You can't be that gullible surely? Even if it were true, tabloid journalists are not credible.

LunafortJest · 04/04/2019 11:54

The FBI according to Jim Clemente former FBI agent, believed Jackson was guilty in Arvizo case, and with Wade and James. Documents from police and FBI paint a very damning case. Facts are important, not tabloid journalists (The Sun, Daily Fail etc) or twitter identity on the Jackson payroll.

thetwits · 04/04/2019 11:57

What is the truth the documentary was changed before it aired on channel 4 because of discrepancies with places, dates and times.

thetwits · 04/04/2019 12:02

I won't mention there names but didn't a police officer believe that the parents killed there child when they were in holiday in Portugal. He wrote a book on how and why they did it.

thetwits · 04/04/2019 12:03

*on holiday in Portugal

LunafortJest · 04/04/2019 12:04

There was no change at all to the documentary. I don't know where you got that from, but it's a complete lie.

And I'm don't what point you're trying to make re a police officer in portugal. ????

Sagradafamiliar · 04/04/2019 12:04

I take my hat off to you, Luna.

Duster12 · 04/04/2019 12:06

People are so desperate for him to have been a paedo. Maybe some racism at play? 🧐

thetwits · 04/04/2019 12:07

Wow prove it first and then ask her to take her hat off because at the moment there's a lot of hot air and piss coming out of that post.

Ginnymweasley · 04/04/2019 12:21

In what universe do people think it was ever ok for a grown man to sleep in the same bed as many young boys. It was always boys wasnt it? He never seemed to want the company of young girls no matter how childlike and innocent his fans claim him to be.
He was mature enough to write and sing adult songs but so childlike that he only wanted to hang around with children? And that doesn't ring any alarm bells. Take away his name and status and if your average Joe did the things he did he would be crucified by the public.
I feel for his children cause they didn't ask for this but in the time of metoo then these men deserve to be believed and to tell their truth.

Duster12 · 04/04/2019 12:24

He actually did have female friends who were kids, but don't let that small fact you seem to know fuck all about prohibit you from convincing yourself you're the bible on all things Michael Jackson.

thetwits · 04/04/2019 12:25

What is the truth the documentary was changed before it aired on channel 4 because of discrepancies with places, dates and times.

Ginnymweasley · 04/04/2019 12:30

Are you the bible on all things MJ then? Did you know him personally? Where you there? If not then why shouldn't these men be believed? What proof should they provide you with?
He slept with young boys in his bed... it's not normal no matter how you want to spin it. I have seen no evidence of girls been allowed in these sleepovers or other adults.
Have you seen Abducted in plain sight? The way that the man in that groomed the entire family and young child is very similar in lots of ways to what these boys describe. It is a method that men like that use to get access to children. Previous posts have given evidence to back that up including FBI sources.

thetwits · 04/04/2019 12:32

Why was the documentary changed if everything they are saying is the truth.

BelindasRedPlasticHandcuffs · 04/04/2019 12:32

People are so desperate for him to have been a paedo. Maybe some racism at play?

Yep. Totally. People consider compellingly delivered testimony against a man that regularly had children sleeping in his bed unchaperoned, a prior history of accusations for child molestation, and evidence found on his properties suggesting sexual desire for male children (for a start), to be enough to convince them that said man was a paedophile that abused children, but it's just because they're racists, and wouldn't think that if it was a white man Hmm

thetwits · 04/04/2019 12:33

Try to answer it without sounding like a politician please.

thetwits · 04/04/2019 12:35

I'm a mother to 4 children come on.

Ginnymweasley · 04/04/2019 12:36

Where is the evidence that the documentary was changed cause no one has provided any, not even a crap website link.....

thetwits · 04/04/2019 12:38

Its not for me to prove it to you. Its for you to prove it to me if its a complete lie as you say.

Ginnymweasley · 04/04/2019 12:38

I'm a mother to 2 children..... in what way is it relevant.

Ginnymweasley · 04/04/2019 12:40

What? How can I prove that the documentary wasnt altered...... if you are going to make claims such as that then you need to provide some sort of evidence or source.
The documentary is surely it's own evidence...

BelindasRedPlasticHandcuffs · 04/04/2019 12:41

I'm a mother to 4 children come on.

There are millions of mothers (of various numbers of children) that post on MN, all of whom who have differing views across all of the topics discussed on these boards. Why is the fact you have four children relevant enough to mention twice Confused

thetwits · 04/04/2019 12:48

Even one woman up thread told you of the discrepancies and she watched it in America. Do you remember him saying that he was abused in a train station because I don't and I watched it.