Alex Salmond...

[justasking111]

He has now been arrested and charged. Not released the reason why yet.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-46984747

Nickynacky is right. It's the timing of the alleged offences.

I don't know if people are suggesting he wouldn't have done those things. Many, many people will feel very let down, tho, if he did do them as they'll feel he took a massive risk with their hopes for the future of their country, not just with his own reputation.

Ok, I don't understand the offences took place in 2013 at Bute house, and the reports are saying they are under the 2009 act. I don't understand how they can all be the same thing with different charges?

Having just seen a list of the charges, two of them seem to be indecent assault but I haven’t read anything to say when they are alleged to have been committed but it will be prior to the SOSA 2009 coming into effect.

bluntness Do you mean why is there so many of the same charge?

Because they will be committed at different times/date/locus/complainers. One charge for one offence.

A lot of powerful men behave appallingly (bill Clinton) and think they can get away with it. And many do.
If there is more than one accuser then it will be much much harder to defend.
The accusers are pretty brave to do what they did. I certainly wouldn’t in their position. They will likely get a mauling in court and their names released online.

It could be wrong but the media reports have stated this is two female members of staff who worked for him at Bute house residence and that the offences are from 2013. I don't know if it's 2013 onwards, but it's saying 2013 is the earliest. This is assuming it's the same women he was being investigated for, and this is not new women.

Nicknacky I thought, with things like this, that it was usual to go for fewer charges ... as in the ones they think are stronger or most likely to stick?

I would hate to be a juror in a trial like this. My instincts would I think cloud my judgement.

puzzeled Not at all. I’ve reported cases with similar numbers of offences, if I have evidenence then I will report them and the PF will prosecute the ones they have enough confidence of a conviction.

That’s not to say a person would be convicted of them all. Some may be removed from the indictment during the process, and frequently a person will plead guilty to the “stronger” offences and others disposed of.

But I try go for as many offences as I can provide evidence for, particularly in non-recent sexual offences where the PF may use the Moorov Doctrine (where offences of similar time, circumstances and character may be used as corroboration)

Bloody iPad puzzled

I can’t bear AS but I hope the man gets the fair trial he’s entitled to. I have a concern though that the jury may be swayed by their political views in deciding the verdict. He’s a very polarising figure.

Bluntness as far as i know the (alleged) 2013 incidents are publicly known about but there hasn't been confirmation that these charges all relate to that timeframe/the two civil servants who have been written about in the press. So it's possible that there are a number of different victims who have come forward with some incidents pre-dating 2009.

Interesting that his wife wasn’t by his side . I have met both him and Nicola , she was very pleasant , he was a smarmy git. ( I am not a supporter of the SNP ) There ‘s been stuff circulating for years about Salmond ( affairs and financial) so I am glad that he isn’t totally untouchable.

Regarding all the 'conspiracy theory' claims, I don't follow Scottish affairs closely, but isn't Salmond a bit of a has-been? A frame-up might - might - have been plausible 5 years ago, but is Salmond really relevant enough for anyone to bother these days?

Oldbutstill. I half expected this to be a financial thing. Reading of his ways of earning a crust was illuminating.

He’s not saying he didn’t do it, just that it wasn’t criminal

@justasking111
Allegedly he is/ was a serious gambler . And then there was the charity he set up in his late mother’s name .......as I say , allegedly.

Bluntness your posts here are making you look a bit of a dick, I'm afraid. Unpleasant innuendo about NS (which you haven't actually clarified at all) then stating incorrect information when you clearly don't know the facts

The women involved have a lot of courage to be pursuing this course of action and I applaud them.

Lol, it really is a mumsnet phenomenon, the pile on. Me too me too, and I'm the one behaving like a dick. Aye alright then 🤣

bluntness It’s hardly a pile on. Although I did chuckle at your insistence at Scottish law when you clearly didn’t understand the legislation and won’t admit you might, just might be mistaken.

Care to properly explain your NS comment then?

Eeuw... cannot imagine that.

Thanks for the explanation, Nicknacky - that's a lot clearer now, though it does sound a bit grim if they really think there's strong evidence for all the charges

As a slight aside, I wonder how the folk are feeling who contributed to the crowdfunding for his civil case against the Scottish government?