Is there anybody here who voted 'leave' who now regrets it?

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Just wondering.

I'm generally not a very political person but seeing the total mess which seems to have been created by the government following through on the vote to leave the EU.

I think that the sane thing is to say 'OK we made a mistake, please can we stay in the EU.

I guess they won't because it's following through on the vote.

I know a lot of people are saying there should be a second vote, but I think these are people who voted to remain in the first place.

I was wondering if there would be any backing for a second referendum (or simply a let's forget brexit) from anyone who originally voted to leave. Maybe it's not delivering as you expected? Do you think that the pro-brexit politicians misrepresented things to you and you'd vote differently if you had a second chance?

(PS name change if you're embarrassed !)

Why should any country be held hostage, basically because they want our money to prop up other countries?

Becayse we import more than we export. We need the products we import, the raw materials for manufacturing, our medication, so many things, your ideology would be brilliant if we were self sufficient, but we are not, and the odds of us ever being is very remote.

It's not the 1960s any more, pretending it's not a global community, pretending we are strong enough to isolate ourselves does no one any favours,

My H and I voted leave and have no regrets in that we would vote the same again. What I am not happy about it what TM has negotiated and the fact that the heavy weighted remain MPs are making the decisions on whither or not we accept a deal. It's never going to encompass everything we envisaged so I would much rather go out with out a deal.

My dad voted leave because of immigrants.
My Japanese dad.
Married to my Ghanaian mum.
To his Japanese daughter.
Married to a Russian man.

He’s not that bright.

Someone upthread asked if I had domestic vs Eu budget figures. I don't have any accurate ones, despite many attempts to find them. For 2016, ONS reports that the UK government's net contribution to the EU - that is the difference between the money it paid to the EU and the money it received - was £9.4 billion in 2016 as compared with the £18.9 billion gross contribution.

Given that our projected domestic spend for 18-19 is 808 billion, 9.4 billion is actually not very much in relative terms. The biggest element of our domestic spend is social spending, followed by health.

I don't know enough to fathom out why we as a nation (and not just us, but Spain, Portugal, Greece...) and individually, are getting poorer. Something, somewhere is not working.

No regrets about voting leave. For me it wasn't about race but about space.

No regrets here.

Anyone offering any ideas of how we resolve the problem about borders in Ireland / Northern Ireland

I did a lot of research before and after the referendum and as far as i can see all the predictions made before have come to pass

Like what? we were told house prices would crash, the economy would tank. there would be an emergency budget the very next day where severe cuts would be made.
we were told unemployment would go through the roof...
as far as I can see, everything is still ticking along pretty much as it was 2 years ago

We've spent a fortune on Brexit. Parliament is in meltdown. The country is split down the middle.

Yep roaring success and it hasn't even happened. Just wait till it does. It's downhill all the way.

@themoomoo - we were told it would happen after we Brexit. Which we haven't yet. But Faridge and his cronies spun it as THEDAYAFTER and it appears you fell for it.

no bellin the remain crew said there would be an emergency budget the day after.
I'm interested to know what exactly is worse NOW as many people say dire predictions have come true. so what exactly is worse for people in their everyday life?

Never regretted my leave vote. In fact. I’m even more certain I made the right choice.
Just want to get on with it now & leave.

in fact bellini what on earth are you on about? it wouldn't have been farage saying all those dire predictions should we leave. are you confused as to who were the leavers and who were the remainers?

It really annoys me when my vote is discounted because 'I didn't know what I was voting for' and people believe that I've probably changed my mind now. I'm not happy with the way it's been handled, but I still want to leave. I would vote leave again.

The scale and cost of unpicking and renegotiating from a position of desperation every single treaty and agreement necessary for the UK to function is terrifying. Gove unable to guarantee that we'll be able to source chemicals needed to keep drinking water safe, food being allowed into the UK without checks to prevent food shortages ... the absolute lack of preparedness is jawdropping and frightening. I don't remember Leave mentioning any of this in their campaign.

You don't regret your vote because it's going so well so far?

mousse as I've already said, I'd be interested in knowing exactly how proceedings have negatively affected people personally. as in affected, not the fear of what may or may not happen. so, how has it affected you so far?

I regret it. I hoped we would get a Norway style compromise where we could co-operate alongside the EU whilst regaining some sovereignty. I did not expect the levels of division and the rise of the far right it seems to have enabled. I would vote differently if there was a second referendum.

Even when I voted I thought there would be a second referendum at some point in the future. For any important decision in life (marriage, divorce, buying houses etc) you get cooling off periods and opportunities for a rethink before signing off on it. It seems inconsistent that we wouldn’t apply similar caution and the wisdom of hindsight to something as important as this.

I think some folks just can't admit they made a mistake. No one can look at this mess, look at the impacts of no deal, look at the comprismises we need to make to lessen the punishment the eu have the power to dole out and think, yeah, I'll have a bit of that.

I don't want to be part of a club that will "punish" you if you want to leave

It makes me so angry that no one is being held accountable for telling lies or making broken promises and then those who voted leave feel responsible for this crap we are in now- its not the fault of the leavers, its the fault of the politicians who lie

I agree.

"I did my research"
The 33m who voted shouldn't have had to do their own research! The Remain campaign rested on their laurels thinking no sane person would vote Leave. They should have let everyone know exactly what the EU money had funded in their area and how the EU works. Most of us are clueless as to how involved we are with Europe.
And for those of you who did your research and voted Leave - what specific things did your research reveal?

There is some refreshing honesty in some of these posts.

I know two people who voted leave. They are neither stupid nor racist. Quite the contrary, they are both intelligent, educated, cosmopolitan women. However, they are not the types to think deeply about political issues - both of them admit quite freely that they are just not interested.

They both voted leave as a kind of protest vote against David Cameron, but neither of them really thought that it would happen. Now, they're sick of hearing about it and they want the government to "just get on with it" so that we can all move on. If there was another referendum tomorrow, they have both said that they would now vote remain, but I don't think they actively regret voting leave. I just don't think they think about it that much, or feel any personal sense of responsibility.

I think there are a lot of people like this. People who don't really believe that their vote will actually make much difference either way, and people who therefore do not feel responsible for the impact of their electoral choices. It's easy to blame the politicians for Brexit, and to put it all down to poor planning and implementation rather than admitting that we actually created this shit show by voting for it.

Of course, the politicians do bear a lot of the responsibility, and I am not trying to absolve them of that, but let's not forget that we voted them in in the first place. And if we're not happy with the job that they're doing, and think we could do better, why aren't we lining up to replace them?

Yeah I am fairly contemptuous of leave voters as a whole but the people who didn’t get off there arses to go and vote can just pipe the fuck down.

I disagree and actually have much respect for people who didn't vote on this. I have a friend who didn't vote because he just couldn't decide what was best. He did a huge amount of research and the main thing this showed him was just how complex it was and what a huge decision. He didn't vote in the end because it was too much for him to understand and he felt he wasn't qualified and wasn't going to toss a coin on such an important issue.

Much more respect for him that those (like my mum) who read nothing more than the headlines on the Daily Mail and Express then think they're a fucking expert.

@Bluntness100 I agree with you.

We are too small, with lacking space and resources. In the south east alone we are set to run out of land won aggregate in about 10 years time. The only option being un-designate the national park to increase resources.

People don't realise how reliant on imports we are, the idea of us increasing manufacturing is great, but we need raw materials and transport infrastructure to move the goods around. Plus the same people who voted leave will probably object to living near a factory due to increased HGV movements, blight etc.

Very, very short sighted.