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Boyfriend claiming and I'm pregnant

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nicoleginge · 01/12/2018 15:09

So I've moved in with my boyfriend and he's claiming Job Seekers Allowance and I've happily fallen pregnant.
He is looking for a job and he's really trying.
We are currently living with his parents and we both individually pay rent to them.
I do not support him money wise and we are now saving up for a baby.
I'm only on a 16 hour contract and Male about £130 a week.

How will this affect his JSA?
Because we have been told by some people that his would stop all together and we will have to live of £130 a week and save for a baby which is impossible.
It's really stressing me out.

About 2 years ago they took me to court for apparently frauding them. Which I didn't but because I didn't have enough evidence. Apparently a phone record and written evidence from the job center wasn't enough they still got me don't for it.

What do we do. We just want to have a happy life and get through this pregnancy without so much stress.

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theworldistoosmall · 01/12/2018 16:03

Erm with Universal credit it's still possible to get direct payments made straight to the LL regardless of who they are. The rate they cover is the same as what HB covered.

A friend of mine has the direct payment made after missing one rent payment. She wasn't consulted, it was just done.

lovetherisingsun · 01/12/2018 16:06

lovetherisingsun To be honest maybe I’m being kind but I’m imagining OP somewhere like an ex mining town in the welsh valleys. There really are places where there are very few jobs. Some cities, like Dundee, have 40% ish unemployment

I guess they're totally screwed then :/ Wonder what the grandparents think of the whole shitshow, seeing as the baby will be living with them? Oh dear.

Caprisunorange · 01/12/2018 16:06

dontalltalkatonce Not sure where you’re getting that from as it’s not accurate, but either way doesnt affect OP being offered a property in the first place

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GhostSauce · 01/12/2018 16:08

He needs to get a job, ANY job, ASAP. There can't be zero factory/supermarket jobs joint? Even if it's not a great job at least he'd be earning. Once he's earning he can then start looking for something better paid.

It seems madness to be working part time with no home of your own and not be on any form of contraception. I know endo makes it more difficult to conceive but it doesn't make it impossible!

If you're only just pregnant can you not leave your current job and find a new FT job? With Christmas coming up there's going to be loads of retail jobs about. You both need to be working every hour under the sun until you have the baby.

dontalltalkatonce · 01/12/2018 16:09

Yes, world, but because of the faults in the system, fewer and fewer landlords are willing to take tenants on it, even with direct payments, because it's well known that under UC payments often stop for no reason, get reduced, etc.

Universal credit has no relevance at all on social housing and people unable to get a property.

In many councils it has put further strain on social housing and added to the ranks of homeless and priority housing because more and more people are unable to access private lets due to UC introduction.

I'm no supporter of UC, I think it's a shitstorm, particularly for the disabled, but its design is ideological to punish people for not working FT in response to the perceived notions of people having multiple 'little miracles', working the bare minimum or not at all, and expecting the tax payers to foot the bill.

And at any rate, she is living with the boyfriend who has not reported he is in a couple, that's fraud.

BishopBrennansArse · 01/12/2018 16:11

On that score the gynaecologist genuinely said I would need IVF and showed me the contrast test. None of the fluid could pass through my Fallopian tubes, they were completely occluded. So it does happen.

I didn't use contraception because I actually wanted children. Once i'd managed to be pregnant I did use contraception in between children and now I've been sterilised.

GertrudeCB · 01/12/2018 16:12

Should of made sure you were both in employment before having a baby.

lovetherisingsun · 01/12/2018 16:12

And at any rate, she is living with the boyfriend who has not reported he is in a couple, that's fraud

What will happen then when they find out he's committed/committing fraud?

dontalltalkatonce · 01/12/2018 16:13

Not sure where you’re getting that from as it’s not accurate, but either way doesnt affect OP being offered a property in the first place

It can indeed affect the OP in being offered property as the ranks of homelessness have increased in many councils due to fewer and fewer people being able to access private lets, including in very deprived areas and making it not so 'fairy easy' to get a council or HA place as it was in the past for many areas. In addition, changing your address can also trigger a UC claim, so if the OP's been on legacy benefits, still claiming them and moves out on her own, it can mean bye bye legacy benefits and hello UC! In addition, she cannot live with the boyfriend or move him in because, well, that's fraud and you need to make a joint claim.

Caprisunorange · 01/12/2018 16:14

Honestly it’s not. All the research and feedback has shown that not to be the case. And whilst arrears have increased, they are nowhere near expected levels

dontalltalkatonce · 01/12/2018 16:23

Guess all those researches at Panorama and numerous other press organisations are wrong then Hmm. The ranks of the homeless are in no way growing! Yep.

Personally, I'm not on UC and hopefully never will be or have used benefits.

But it's causing a lot of misery for a lot of people. At the same time, you can sort of see where the ideology comes from with cases like this, sadly, so the many get punished for the irresponsibility of the few.

And again, when it concerns the OP, well, the boyfriend needs to have reported to the JobCentre that she is living with him as a domestic partner and should have done this the day she moved in. That he hasn't is fraud on his part.

If she is in receipt of tax credits she would have also needed to inform them that she's living in a couple.

But that's their lookout.

At any rate, if she moves out on her own it may be a UC claim if she's in a UC area and then if he moves in it needs to be a joint claim.

The gravy train has stopped, OP, you will be expected to support your child without a lot of assistance from the government.

Caprisunorange · 01/12/2018 16:24

Well I tend to take industry evidence based research over panorama Hmm

Mymycherrypie · 01/12/2018 16:24

We just want to have a happy life and get through this pregnancy without so much stress.

Sadly because you picked these circumstances in which to get pregnant, it may not be stress free because your situation was stressful even before you added a baby to the mix.

dontalltalkatonce · 01/12/2018 16:25

Doubt the OP will return to this thread, FWIW, as her boyfriend is committing fraud by not having reported that he is living as a couple.

Starlight456 · 01/12/2018 16:28

The answer is he needs to inform the dependence that you are living there. You above all people should realise how serious it all is.

He needs to broaden his horizons, labouring , bar work , supermarkets , warehouse work . It doesn’t matter what at this stage

MrsGarethSouthgate · 01/12/2018 16:31

Is the issue with your boyfriend getting a job related to driving/commuting, i.e. you live rurally and he doesn't drive, so has limited options for work as a result?

If so you may have to consider moving.

UnapologeticallyUnhinged · 01/12/2018 16:32

'I will not be able to get pregnant anymore'

Wait, what?

constantlywingingit · 01/12/2018 16:40

Well done for asking for more hours op and congratulations on your pregnancy.

I agree with PP the situation isn't ideal. Your partner needs to accept any job, be it cleaning, caring, shop/bar work, admin work. Anything. Not that any of these jobs are inferior in any way as I have done them all myself, but at the moment he needs to not focus on what he likes, more so where he can earn any money. Whilst there he can continue searching.

You could also take on an extra job if the hours aren't available, perhaps bar/restaurant work evenings and weekends for a few months.

After your baby is born please make sure to take necessary precautions until such time as you are able to afford another, just in case it does happen.

constantlywingingit · 01/12/2018 16:43

As a side note, I am a student and I have a classmate who is pregnant. She studies full time but also works as a self employed cleaner. She signed up with one of those 'rated people' type sites and is doing very well for herself. Sets her available hours and works as much as she can. Maybe something to consider?

Chardeemacdennis1 · 01/12/2018 16:43

I thought jsa was for anyone who's unemployed.

I lost my job about 4 years ago. I owned my house and lived with my working partner but I was still able to claim jsa. Its all the other stuff your not entitled too.

Cassia90 · 01/12/2018 16:46

It should already be effecting his benefits I'm afraid, you need to declare that your a couple and one of your is working immediately his JSA will stop but unfortunately being on benefits isn't a life of luxury and maybe it'll give your partner a push to find a job ASAP.

dontalltalkatonce · 01/12/2018 17:59

I lost my job about 4 years ago. I owned my house and lived with my working partner but I was still able to claim jsa.

Contribution-based JSA is not means-tested. It used to last 6 months. Then if you are still unemployed and wish to claim it becomes income-based JSA, which is means-tested.

In full-service UC areas, however, it is not JSA anymore but UC. If you are on income-based JSA and experience a triggering event, such as moving in with a partner or having a child, then you are moved onto UC in most cases (one exception is if you have 3 or more children).

Chardeemacdennis1 · 01/12/2018 18:39

What so there is no jsa anymore, or no jsa after 6 months?

nicoleginge · 01/12/2018 19:24

I can't take birth control. I've tried every birthcontrol I can think of but unfortunately I suffer with birth control depression.

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Caprisunorange · 01/12/2018 19:31

What even with condoms or other non hormonal contraception? How can they give you depression?

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