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to tell my friend to sod off with her helpful husband!

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QwertyLou · 23/11/2018 03:08

Thanks for the amazing advice before & this is my last question on this party I promise (its on Sunday so it better be)!!

My son (nearly 4) is going through an arty-crafty stage. He loves painting more than anything. So I wasn't surprised when he announced he wanted to do painting "with my friends for my WHOLE party!"

So we're doing some painting at his party (15 mins or so), along with lots of other fun things. Just little plaster rockets and spaceships, one for each child to paint and they take it home.

When I mentioned this to a friend she made a horrified face... "Painting... for boys??" And recommended I scrap it for a football session, perhaps with the man from her son's party.

I hadn't even realised that painting was considered "un-manly" and boys were not supposed to enjoy it... is that a thing?

My son enjoyed the football session, but not enough to want the same thing. Plus it was an hour-long session - I'd have to scrap half the party! Which I explained to my friend.

Unbeknownst to me she gave my no. to Football Man who contacted me, so I explained myself again and thought that was it. But no.

Yesterday my friend announced that she has kindly lined up her husband ("John") to do a football activity "in parallel" with the painting. So her son and other boys can do football while anyone else is painting.

I said that of course John, would be welcome to play football with their son during the painting if they want. No child, boy or girl, will be compelled to paint a plaster rocket against their will! We'll be in the back garden with plenty of things to do.

But I really do not want John to announce an official "Come on kids line up over here!!" activity just as the painting is starting. The whole idea is to bring everyone (or most people) together for a quieter activity they can enjoy as a group - then we'll have the cake.

And my son is really excited about painting with his friends. I keep finding him in the kitchen, gazing longingly up at all the paint stuff. If they all race off to play football, it will defeat the whole purpose [delete](plus I'll be left with a mountain of plaster rockets)[delete].

I explained all this to my friend but she was having none of it.

She said John was more than happy to do it, it would be fun, it was important to let "boys be boys" and she knows it must be hard for me as a single mum to cater for boys, hence her lining up John.

We were both getting our sons into the car after nursery and she drove off after that.

So as it stands, John is "kindly" doing this official activity on Sunday.

I don't want him to, but what do I say to make that clear without offending anyone?

Part of me feels a bit ungrateful too. We single mothers of boys are constantly berated by society to ensure our sons have good male role models (GMRM) or they will turn into anti-social, drug-taking juvenile delinquents.

And lo and behold, here one is - a GMRM - volunteering something!
And am I gratefully accepting? No, I am saying no (trying to)!

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 01/12/2018 07:21

^^ This.

Do not let this man near your son.

John is a very bold specimen.

mathanxiety · 01/12/2018 07:23

(Referencing WeeSausage's post).

I think you should threaten him with trespassing action.

He will remonstrate, but you should tell him you denied him entry to your property and thus he is trespassing.

Seriously, get out there if he is still at the fence, and ask him what part of 'No, I have someone coming next week for the fence' he did not understand.

Letshopeitsallok · 01/12/2018 07:24

It’s control. He does you a favour, then you owe him. He is not being kind.

Is there anyone you can call to get him to leave?

StripLynchet · 01/12/2018 07:41

"John, we are going out now so I will have. to ask you to leave. Thanks for bringing the present round".

MyOtherProfile · 01/12/2018 07:44

He came to drop a present off then went round the back to fix your fence even though you told him someone is coming? He has no boundaries and is not listening. Has he gone yet? You're not losing it - he is being difficult. Don't let him in next time he comes.

Tartyflette · 01/12/2018 07:46

OP is everything OK now?

OliviaBenson · 01/12/2018 07:48

Woah, that's quite sinister. What did he say when you told him not to fix your fence?

He's trying to assert his control here.

Just stay safe until he's gone.

Redtartanshoes · 01/12/2018 07:51

Could have put money on him being a cop.

Creepy fucker

ContessaHallelujahSparklehorse · 01/12/2018 07:53

OK op, deep breath. I don't quite understand what's happened; please can you take us through it step by step? I understand he turned up at your house unexpectedly but don't have a sense of who said what etc.

Hooe you're ok Flowers

ChillyAutumnMorning · 01/12/2018 07:54

I think the fence issue just proves what everyone has been saying.

Hope you're ok.

Speak to Jane.

Oh and I know it's all moved on a bit more now but my son is 19 and he would still rather paint a plaster rocket than have anything to do with football. I'm glad your son had a lovely party.

Yulebealrite · 01/12/2018 08:08

He's ignoring your boundaries. That is a huge issue.

flumpybear · 01/12/2018 08:12

Oh bloody hell! Has he gone yet?

tenredthings · 01/12/2018 08:29

HE definitely sounds very controlling and is asserting his dominance after your rebuff for the football. His boundaries sound fucked up and his troubled childhood is not your issue. Can you go out now with Ds and leave him to it. Is it possible he has access to her mumsnet account and has seen this thread ? You need to go grey rock and totally ignore him. If it escalates report him to the police dept. where he works.

VisitorsEntrance · 01/12/2018 08:31

Oh my. Just catching up on this.

They always seem perfectly charming on the surface. That’s how they get under your skin.
You asked him to leave. He didn’t. This is not on.
Do you have anyone else who can come over?

AvoidingDM · 01/12/2018 08:47

Has he gone yet?

I would also say phone the police, you don't have to give names before they get there "an acquaintance is in my garden and won't leave, I'm feeling threatened by him"

HerculesTheBercules · 01/12/2018 08:56

Hope you are okay.

Once you get rid of him today I would cut this friendship off entirely, you are not responsible for their drama and do not need this in your life.

rainbowstardrops · 01/12/2018 08:57

You've asked him firmly to go but he won't and now he's fixing your fence that you've told him not to.
I don't think you're being too dramatic, I think you should ring the police!

ReanimatedSGB · 01/12/2018 09:07

I hope you've been able to get the fucker to go - or the police have showed up to remove him.
Also, I am not surprised he's in the police. While many police officers are lovely people, the police force has quite a few abusive, dangerous men in it, because it's a job that offers them control and power and opportunities to abuse others.

I think perhaps an official complaint might be in order - the 'good' police officers tend to dislike and resent the abusive ones and want to get rid of them.

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 01/12/2018 09:25

John obviously wants to check up on OP.
Agree that he wants you to feel he has done you a favour even tho he hasnt

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 01/12/2018 09:27

If John is there, can you ring Jane?
At least you know that she will be free to talk without him earwigging.
Withold your number so that it doesn't show up on her phone

Squeegle · 01/12/2018 09:27

What you mentioned about your son saying “Daddies are not nice”, do you know what prompted it? Had he told him off? I think your instincts about this man are totally correct. Now, how to stop him coming round... he needs to be discouraged. I think you need to do all you can to not allow him in,
And then threaten him with the police if you are being ignored. Do you have any male friends/ relations you can depend on who can back you up in these kind of situations?

Grannyannex · 01/12/2018 09:37

Ok op ?

lowbudgetnigella · 01/12/2018 10:01

Worried for you OP

Graphista · 01/12/2018 10:02

Is he still there? If you don't want to call police (which you absolutely could doesn't matter how senior he is he's not welcome!)

As its late afternoon people will be about can you call a male neighbour or friend to come have a word with him?

This guy needs put in his place!

takemetomars · 01/12/2018 10:29

this is very worrying