Anyone else dread the clocks going back

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I hate the long dark nights
Go in to work in the dark
Come home in the dark
I find myself getting quite anxious and low as the weeks go on
Try and embrace the cosy element but I miss daylight
I am the grinch I know

I don't understand why Scottish farmers are getting it in the neck - all of western Europe put the clocks back one hour last night. We did the same. The arguments about lighter mornings are more about children getting to school in the daylight as if we didn't change the clocks it wouldn't be getting light until almost 9.

Farmers all year round work with the light they've got. The farmer across the hedge from us was out baling hay up at midnight at the end of June as it wasn't properly dark and he has powerful headlights on his tractor. It makes no difference to a farmer when the daylight is, they just get out and do all the jobs they have to do anyway. Doesn't matter if you're ploughing at 10am, midday or 7pm.

Personally I'd support NOT putting clocks back and having more light in the afternoon than the evening.

having more light in the afternoon than the evening.

Having more light in the afternoon than the morning I mean.

OP I think a thread about how to make it all more bearable is a great idea.
I've taken heart from his thread that some people really like the winter and it has made me feel better to think it's good for some
Also I have done the following:
bought an electric blanket and windscreen shield
looking into vitamin d and a SAD lamp

I don't get the 'cosy' thing at all - any advice on making my house cosy welcome. It's just freezing and dark.

I think I will take the vitamin D advice and look into getting a SAD lamp.

In my case I just can't get excited about Halloween or Christmas. It is much more fun with small children in tow. We live nowhere near family and there are just the three of us. Plus OH never gets into the spirit of it either. It's all a bit too low key and underwhelming for me. I do try and make it special as much as I can, but my ideal Christmas would be to go away somewhere hot and come back after the new year.

I hate it too. The gloooooom.

I HATE snuggly blankets unless I am ill. Even in the depths of winter, we use a 4.5 tog duvet - I cannot bear to be too hot at night and even fling off the said duvet! We do have a standby throw in case it is really freezing though!

A few Scottish farmers? Go get a clue.

Where do you stay? Roughly...

All staying in best would mean up in the far north of England is that, in December, it would be light between 9:30 and 4:30 instead of 8:30 to 3:30. You'd still be going to work in the dark and coming home in the dark, unless you were lucky enough to finish work at 4 and potentially have to drive home with the sun in your eyes.

the difference is in North Scotland well not the very north but Inverness at the winter solstice on 21 december there are only 6.5 hours between sunrise and sunset and approx 50 mins dawn and 50 minutes twilight it does not matter what the clock says there is only just about 8 hours of light 2 of which are darkening, in the southeast because of latitude there are about 7.5-8 hours daylight and 40 mins twilight/dawn
the question is when is it best for those 6-7 hours of daylight to be is it 9-3 or 10-4?

not only is scotland further north but also further west so that puts it back about another 15-20 mins so if on a given day sunrise is at 8am in london it is going to be well after 9 in Scotland as Edinburgh on east of scotland is actually further west than Carlisle on the west coast of England

Whilst I do usually love the clocks going back, having a 3 month old DD who I had to cajole to keep awake longer was not fun.. we gave in at 6pm so who knows how many times we'll be up in the night!

I think the biggest factor in people enjoying all this "snuggling down under a blanket" when it's cold and dark is the fact that it sounds like they can afford heating!

If you can only afford to put the heating for 2 hours (and even then the radiators are rubbish) or not at all then all these "cosey, lovely dark cold nights" are suddenly just months of freezing misery.

dawn what’s your lighting like? I don’t do overhead lighting of any type. Nice warm lamps and throws. I have them on timers so that I never come home to a dark house.

Cosy for me, is also a state of mind. I MAKE myself snuggle on the sofa with a good book and my dog. The heat is on, even when I was a single mum with major money worries, the heat was on.

I do take a VitD supplement too.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3407923-If-you-struggle-in-the-Winter-you-are-very-welcome-here?watched=1

Here we go
A thread to keep us all going

Those bastard Scottish farmers complaining about the dark when they are working to grow our food!! Fuck them eh!!

All those in the south complaining - have you campaigned to your local MP to stop them buggering Scottish farmers to stop ‘holding the uk to ransom’? No thought not.

Thanks OP

auntiejackies thanks well I've only got two lamps so maybe I need to get more? The trouble is I can't read without overhead light so perhaps that's not giving the cosy feel. Timers is a good idea. I don't have any warm throws.
A dog would be the best but not an option just now unfortunately.

I just have a draughty house mainly.

I don't care

There’s always one isn’t there
Always one twat on every thread

Which poster is the twat?

Belina
Why come on a thread and bitchplop like that

Ah, yes. The old hit and run on a thread to say ‘I don’t care’. Thanks for your contribution

"bitchplop" lols

Love dark nights,hate dark mornings with a passion.

"If you can only afford to put the heating for 2 hours (and even then the radiators are rubbish) or not at all then all these "cosey, lovely dark cold nights" are suddenly just months of freezing misery."

Indeed. I sympathise with people who can't afford to keep their homes warm, or get their washing dry. I lived like that when I was a student, and then when OH and I were first married. It was utterly miserable.

I find it ironic that the summer haters always eulogise about snuggling under blankets with hot chocolate. These are the people who hate feeling hot!

It's not a heat thing Lonicera really, more a sensory thing, I love being "wrapped".

Those bastard Scottish farmers complaining about the dark when they are working to grow our food!! Fuck them eh!!

Thing is that I’ve yet to hear a farmer, Scottish or otherwise, complain.
As said above there are is the same amount of daylight regardless and farmers will work to those hours.

As said above daylight in the depths of winter is either 9-3 or 10-4. Either way most people will be going to or from work or school in the dark.