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I think I've just been fired

433 replies

CinnamonVanilla · 17/10/2018 17:05

Boss found out that I applied for a job with our parent company. Supposed to be anonymous; but I'd have said when it was appropriate. Our HR director beat me to it; in front of a lot of people, apparently.

He took me into a room to say that it was humiliating; and means he no longer trusts me, so how do we move forward. He said my work is excellent but this is a big issue.

He's given me some time to think. Presumably he's expecting my notice this evening. I've been here just under two years so there's nothing I can do.

This has made my anxiety rocket and I don't know want to do.

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CinnamonVanilla · 17/10/2018 20:26

Varying wildly between being okay and needing to job hunt and feeling very anxious and sick this evening.

This feels so awful.

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FelicisWolf · 17/10/2018 20:26

Don't resign, but also don't kick up a fuss with HR just yet until you find out about the new role. If they think you're a pita then they may not hire you, I know this shouldn't be the case but it definitely happens. Unless the HR departments don't talk to each other, which is unlikely. If you don't get the job AND your managers are still acting like it's a problem, then go in guns blazing

NoWordForFluffy · 17/10/2018 20:26

When you say a few days, do you mean less than a week? If so you can claim unfair dismissal as the statutory notice period of a week is added onto your service.

You need to put in a grievance about the data breach and just front it out with your boss. Ignore him, do your - excellent - work and you don't need to explain yourself.

HollowTalk · 17/10/2018 20:32

So has he been there since he was a boy? It's completely ridiculous that you shouldn't be able to apply for other jobs.

MidniteScribbler · 18/10/2018 03:19

Of course you have a right to apply for other jobs, but everywhere I've worked if you apply for something internal, or with an affiliated company, it is considered courtesy to discuss it with your boss first, especially considering that if it's internal the first thing they are going to do is contact your current boss for a reference.

Angelf1sh · 18/10/2018 03:36

Op, they haven’t sacked you yet and you haven’t resigned. If I were you, I’d do nothing but stall for the next few days until you can run down the clock to the two year mark. After that you can kick off about HR but don’t do ANYTHING now if you’re only a few days away. If you kick off before, you will get sacked and there will be nothing you can do about it (in terms of your job I mean, you absolutely could still report the data breach to the ICO). Avoid your boss as much as you can, tell him you’re still thinking about things as he asked you to, take some sick/annual leave, whatever you need to do to get passed you’re second work anniversary.

Angelf1sh · 18/10/2018 03:36

*your!

Patroclus · 18/10/2018 07:05

If you would need to claim benefits definitely do not resign or go in any way which could be seen as resigning whatever you do, even if you dont intend to stay.

KeiTeNgeNge · 18/10/2018 07:09

Don’t resign, do confront HR.

Belleende · 18/10/2018 07:37

DO NOT RESIGN. Do go and speak to HR director, make this their problem. You have done nothing wrong. It is entirely normal to look for new opportunities after 2 years in a role.

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CinnamonVanilla · 18/10/2018 10:08

I didn't get the other role. I guess my manager knew that yesterday. I was very close second; but they went for a candidate they didn't have to relocate. Or at least that's what they've said.

A colleague has asked me to produce a guide to what needs to be done on the big project; incase "I get hit by a bus". I don't have high hopes for meeting the director at 11am.

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Hoppinggreen · 18/10/2018 10:12

As other people have said do NOT resign
If yiu are a few days off 2 years service then surely your notice period would count and take you over?
Also, ask for this to be moved to Employment, there are some really good employment lawyers and HR people @flowery who hang out there and give great advice
You probably won’t see this until after the meeting now I know

MsMightyTitanAndHerTroubadours · 18/10/2018 10:15

get yourself together.

Yes ..you applied for another job, if you missed any guidelines apologise and move on

BUT your work is excellent so what do they need to do to keep you, what can they do to ensure you stay in your team,? Bat it right back t them and say I am looking for better, what do you have for me?

Don't sit there waiting for the hammer to fall! Be strong!

ZigZagIntoTheBlue · 18/10/2018 10:19

Good luck for the meeting. You did nothing wrong by applying so don't go in all apologetic for applying, at worst it was a faux pas not to mention it to your line manager but you can say you weren't aware of the policy and it's been different in previous workplaces.
Manager has stated your work is good, like pp above asked, what did you want out of this new job? Is it more money? A higher position? Be strong!Flowers

ZigZagIntoTheBlue · 18/10/2018 10:20

Titan phrases it better than I did... what she said!

dahliaaa · 18/10/2018 10:23

DO NOT RESIGN

Valasca · 18/10/2018 10:31

I’m not sure what you’re expecting or your company. They were happy with your work and they just found out you’re not happy and are applying for other jobs.

So you’re about to leave them in a position where they’re going to need to start recruiting and retraining again.

Of course this is going to have an impact on your job - the first being that no long-term, client-facing projects where you’re the main lead should be assigned to you, because you might hand in your notice anytime!

I can also see why your manager feels betrayed. If you’ve not expressed any concern, haven’t asked for a promotion or been passed over for a raise... well, your manager had no idea you weren’t satisfied in your role and were looking to leave.

FunSponges · 18/10/2018 10:52

Do not resign! You did not sign up to stay with one company forever. Someone in our work is moving on, within the organisation, she got a round of applause not the threat of job loss.

CrabbityRabbit · 18/10/2018 13:33

How was your meeting OP?

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CinnamonVanilla · 18/10/2018 14:11

It's been an emotional morning. I got ten minutes with the director between meetings.

He said he would have preferred to be told that I was applying and would have supported me; but that it wasn't an issue. He's just concerned that this means I'm unhappy and he's aware that I've been frustrated and wanting to progress.

He said my work is excellent and I'm intelligent; and he knows I'm always acting in the best interests for the company, so we just need to talk about options.

I've stayed away from HR so far; and I think the next meeting will be pencilled in for Monday afternoon. He said he'd talk to my manager first.

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Cuttingthegrass · 18/10/2018 15:20

Well done OP. That sounds very positive.

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CinnamonVanilla · 18/10/2018 15:51

Short lived success; he's just cancelled our meeting for next week and said I need to discuss with my manager and then we'll talk "when it's relevant".

I don't really see what I'm supposed to do now. My head is ruined.

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Bombardier25966 · 18/10/2018 15:55

You're being managed out. They know you're too close to the two year mark just to dismiss you (assuming you are within days of it), so they'll do it over time. It's crap, but you need to start looking for something else.

Fontofnoknowledge · 18/10/2018 16:13

No you don't !!
Absolutely DO NOT RESIGN !
If they want to sack an 'excellent' worker then they need to have a reason. If you were ' a few days' from two years then hang on until it IS two years . Then sue if they 'manage you out' .

RedDrink · 18/10/2018 16:19

They don't own you.

Also what others said, don't resign.

Talk to the HR department because I also don't understand how they're allowed to do what they did.

Continue looking for a new job...maybe not with parent companies though.