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Thanks for reminder Becca rushes to get first pick of comfy sheltered branch !!!
Settles in with fleecy blankets etc !

I'm watching Star Wars as its Star Wars day! Today I finally get to watch Solo!! I've been saving it!!!

Hello Owls

Great for your brother Lin As a student I counted votes one local election and it was surprisingly fun I have to say.

Becca How are you? It’s Star Wars day isn’t it, I have never seen a start Wars film despite having 2 brothers who loved Star Wars growing up.

We’re not up to much this bank holiday weekend, just going to enjoy doing nothing as a family. It’s just great all being together as dh works long hours during the week but his mine at weekends

Well done lins brother!

Ive been to the cinema to watch avengers endgame. I cried.

DD is absolutely covered in pox. Theres loads of them. Luckily shes not ill with them.

Oh dear. Poor demon!

I love Star Wars!

Hello owls How are you all??

Me and the dc have been swimming with mil this morning and for lunch out 😃 we are going to bake cheese scones and muffins with the dc now

Me too Becca, I’m doing white chocolate chip one, chocolate ones with milk chocolate chips and lemon curd ones as well. I can then freeze some of them for another time, then I heat in the microwave and eat with ice cream when I fancy one.

I was once given savoury muffins, I could of cried. A cruel trick from devil himself

savoury ?? SAVOURY??????

Yuk.

Who the hell eats savoury muffins?!

Obviously no one. They were trying to trick lovely pink into eating nasty food! Luckily she realised!!

Pink save me a scone , I love cheese ones. Why have you changed your name ? Are you trying to trick us !
Not a very nice day here today, poured with rain in the night and very overcast at the moment. I need to get out in the garden and finish planting up my pots, but don't think it will be today !
Hope everyone is doing ok Becca ? Fatty ?
I know you are Pink !

Yukky cheese on scones. They should be plain ones, preferably from the bakery at m&s (I could live off them!) and with lots of cream and jam! In RL I eat them plain. Stupid diabetes.

I'm more than a bit overwhealmed to be honest. Usual stuff plus a phobia which is becoming life threatening and phobia is getting worse despite that. Tried to speak to GP who at least didn't smirk at me like last time, but really no one understands it is a genuine severe phobia. Plus spent months last year being manipulated by a social worker and specialist service who claimed to understand phobia who then told me it wasn't I'd just let a little bit of anxiety get out of control and was being silly. It's a dental phobia. All teeth except a few have rotted beneath gums as no treatment in over 30 years, need roots and jaws removed now. I cannot cope with having anyone near my mouth or head without PTSD problems. The one person in RL I told likes to bring it up all the time and laugh about how silly I am and how it's nothing at all to be afraid of and has laughed and joked about it to others as well trying to sort it last year has just made it even harder for me.

On top of everything else it's too much right now. Its effecting my eyes.

Of course she's pink ! I would know her anywhere!!!

If you have a phobia Becca then no- one should be laughing at you. To you it is a very serious problem. I don't have any suggestions for you apart from hypnotism. The whole situation must be terrifying for you. What is that scares you, any pain, being sat in that chair with someone so close to you ?
People laugh at me when I say I would die of fright if a snake was near me, but I feel that I would, so great is my fear and horror of them.

The problem is that it's overused as a term. Really overused, people say they have a dental phobia when really what they have is anxiety.

I cannot cope with anyone near my head never mind my mouth. It's got nothing to do with noise of drill. I can't have anaesthetic either due to EDS.

It took a lot for me to reach out and try last summer and being let down and lied to compounded it even more. There was no understanding no trying just "you look fine". It's massively linked to why I have PTSD.

I obviously have no idea to suggest anything Becca but what will happen if you don't have the treatment ? I guess things will get worse and cause you pain. It's a blow about anaesthetic as well, would be much better fir you to be asleep whilst they did anything. Would it be worth finding anyone who deals with the phobia you have? Or maybe someone who can help you with ptsd ? What a horrid dilemma for you.

Honestly I don't know. Left it'll become sepsis. I've known that for a long time. I'm not in that much pain in my mouth as my nerves are mostly dead apart from the few teeth I have left but I get face pain (in the part I can feel pain!).

All anyone does round here is mindfulness which actually made things worse for me, and isn't recommended for severity of issues I have, but that's all anyone offers. It also cost me my religious community which was and still is really upsetting for me as it was essentially my family. Even the word is now really upsetting for me. I was bullied to do it for years guaranteeing it would fix everything, when it turned out its not recommended for my conditions anyway, unfortusntely I lost my community after being told they were wrong and to tell them that resulting in them ending my affiliation - it's NOT their fault, it's been years I've been put in this position of conflict and they could see how much it hurt me so as far as they're concerned put a stop to it, but didn't realise the treatment would just make things worse and losing them was painful as well.

I asked for help over a decade ago but people just didn't get its complicated.

The PTSD has worsened a lot recently since that woman in the shop was abusive, she got to keep her job as she got professionals to argue she was ill so they couldn't fire her and now that whole situation has blown up as she now sees she has "permission" and she encourages others to be the same. And it's the same for the man I've had problems with threatening me with rape, again professionals have said he's just ill and I'm to accept and get on with life. What they don't understand is its actually resulted in me being frightened of everyone in case they too have these illnesses/needs that apparently makes it ok to hurt me, and I mean everyone. It's why I struggle so much to go out at all now.

A terrible situation for you Becca would it make things any easier if there was a female dentist who could help, or would that be just as upsetting for you ? But where would you find one, how would you get there etc ? So many problems and no easy answers fir you.

Actually female wouldn't make it much easier, a bit maybe. My last one was female and she took my stick and trapped me in the chair and refused to stop when I asked her to. It was a horrendous experience. Again I'd explained about the phobia and again it was treated like a joke.

There's no dentist in my county anyway, even private. Waiting list is two years!

Don't know what you can do then Becca. Dosent seem to be a solution at all does there. So us there acdentist at your nearest hospital, is that where you would have to go ?

No nearest hospital with dental department is eight hour round trip.

Oh god Becca. What on earth can you do then ?

I don't know.

Is there anything in one of the health threads that could help you ?

I typed dental phobia help in search and lots of threads about it. At top of page in blue bar, next to shopping ! Perhaps you May read something that could help.